1841, they must have been living the high life to have a painting painted of them. Meh, my family was living on dirt floors or being forced from there home, don't know which came first. I know they were forced from there home in Bravaria way back in the day and forced into Hungary. Dismal. Going to find the village in Eastern Hungary my grandpa grew up in, walk the same path he did. Same with finding that gulag my grandma was in, in eastern poland.