Stay locked up after they serve their time?

Started by TehBorken, Mar 01 07 11:10

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Russ





The thing is, when the death penatly is concerned, Russ, people get extra appeals because any mistake would obviously have more dire consequences. So you would like the extra appeals to be eliminated?[/DIV]
 Sorry, I missed this, I thought I answered this.

  Yes they get the appeals granted to them under the current (or in our case the past laws that were removed from our system in 1974 when the death penalty legislation was removed from our guidelines.. the last execution in Canada was in 1964). If it is granted to the other criminals they get the same, if as you say they get extra appeals to be sure.. then they get it.

  There IS a monetary value involved.. but I believe as well that there should be a dire consequence when a heinous crime is commited. If we have to pay more to ensure that someone pays the ultimate price, and ensure they get all the legal avenues they are allowed I accept it.
Mercy to the Guilty is Torture to the Victims

tenkani

Ok well that's my point.

Erm, and I have no idea how it is in the Great White North, I'm just talking about here in the states where it's cheaper to incarcerate someone for life than to kill them. So saving money isn't an issue. Protecting society isn't an issue, unless you think it's a deterrent, but I don't believe that's been demonstrated conclusively yet. So it gets to the heart of what "justice" means to people.

  To me, human life has an inherent value that makes extinguishing it morally wrong. In the case of self-defense, it can be necessary. I'm no pacifist. But to take human life with no other reason than because it "feels" right is wicked IMO. If we're going to write laws (and claim to be the moral lighthouse of the free world as we do) then our laws should be based on rationionality. When we start basing laws on nebulous feelings we can get into trouble.

  P.S. if you begin with the premise that an eye for an eye is a morally justifiable position, then my whole arguement falls apart so...this is just my opinion.  
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Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

Russ

Thanks Tenk.. Ive enjoyed reading what you wrote and having you respond to me..

  'bless'

  ok, I missed you.. sorry I was reviewing again. Take care and have a good night. See ya tomorrow.
Mercy to the Guilty is Torture to the Victims

tenkani

Ditto brother!!
There is no right answer to this stuff!!!
But it's fun to knock it around a bit and see what floats...or something?
 
For thou art with me; thy cream and thy sugar they comfort me
Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

TheAngel

 "P.S. if you begin with the premise that an eye for an eye is a morally justifiable position, then my whole arguement falls apart so...this is just my opinion."

I'm just throwing it out there too.  I'm not a Legislator.  





 

tenkani

For thou art with me; thy cream and thy sugar they comfort me
Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

Gopher

tenkani wrote:
 Send all criminals to Australia? .......

 Doesn't work, Lise got away.


 
A fool's paradise is better than none.

TheAngel


tenkani

How do you build a jail to hold a girl who can transform into a dragon?

I always try to stay on Lise's good side    
For thou art with me; thy cream and thy sugar they comfort me
Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

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