Married couples are the minority nowadays

49er · Sep 13 07 07:05

P.C. wrote:
*a rental property is only a good idea if the rent actually covers the mortgage payment.....lol[/DIV]
No, you got to take into consideration money saved on taxes because of writeoffs and capital gains on the property...........but we are talking of rental between family members in this case

P.C. · Sep 13 07 08:00

Oh I see where you're going. Wouldn't they be subject to the same things ?

Lil Me · Sep 13 07 09:17

purelife wrote:
Anyways, they were saying that many people are either divorced, separated or single parents. If I heard correctly, they said that 1 in 4 are raising kids alone. --
Back to the original topic, I can believe those statistics. I think relationships suffer these days- our lifestyle is crazy. People (in general) work like nuts to stay afloat, leaving little time for building a meaningful relationship with their significant other.

I know lots of people out here in the 'burbs who have NO family time/couple time together. Husband works nights, wife works days, they leave notes for each other on the fridge.

Sportsdude · Sep 13 07 09:20

yeah lil me. Especially the folks in the 'mcmansions'. I'd see the husband leave for work at 3:30am, 4am. Then you'd always see a for sale sign about a year later. The man must of found another wife. But I had friends who's dads would leave the home before sunrise and not get home until 9 or 10pm.

49er · Sep 13 07 11:01

Lil Me wrote:
..... People (in general) work like nuts to stay afloat, leaving little time for building a meaningful relationship with their significant other.

I know lots of people out here in the 'burbs who have NO family time/couple time together. Husband works nights, wife works days, they leave notes for each other on the fridge.

I disagree..........I say hardship and sacrfices of couples make the relationship stronger.

I believe nowadays peolple are getting married without understanding the serious commitment of marriage

P.C. · Sep 13 07 11:19

I disagree..........I say hardship and sacrfices of couples make the relationship stronger. I believe nowadays peolple are getting married without understanding the serious commitment of marriage

There is something to be noted in that these statistics also mentioned the increase of common-law relationships. My thoughts on that are that people are less willing to make that ultimate commitment. So 'cohabitating' isn't declining.....commitment is declining.[/DIV]

Sportsdude · Sep 13 07 11:42

marriage is something for religions.
marriage is the establishment
marriage is something that ties someone down changes them
marriage tends to be too structured you'll get a controlling
marriage ended bad the first time around or second or third etc.
In the end if you're not religious marriage is just a government piece of paper.

Thinking of excuses. And honestly I personally have the last view. If you're not religious, marriage loses the religious meanings. And here in the states why do homosexual couples want to get married besides the fact they want to be accepted? Benefits. You don't recieve the same amount of benefits as married folks do. So that's government related. So if you make the benefits the same for common law as married of course marriages are going to plummet.

Because honestly. If you love someone you don't need a government piece of paper that says I love so and so. Its sort of a liberitarian view point in a way, sort of like "I don't need somebody to tell me that I love a person."

P.C. · Sep 14 07 06:31

Sorry SD....but what a load of crap.

purelife · Sep 14 07 09:00

What the [beep] SD? I agree with PC that what you said was a load of crap!

Quit talking on behalf of ALL citizens of the USA. And, if you haven't been married, divorced, live common-law, date, then really, SD, you don't know. You don't know until you have experienced it for yourself.

Sportsdude · Sep 14 07 09:11

um where did I say I was talking about the US?
I have been on a date, a gf, and so on. P.C. said she believed couples didn't want to go the extra mile.
The last option is the most popular one in Europe because of what I mentioned. So its not a load of crap.

Sportsdude · Sep 14 07 09:13

you completely missed what I was saying. Why do you think Common law is the highest in Quebec?

"It really does have a lot to do with the fact that it's much more acceptable to live together before you get married and in a lot of cases, people don't bother getting married because thre really isn't any cultural imperative on them to do so," said Kathy Lynn, a certified family educator, speaking with CTV's Canada AM Wednesday.

purelife · Sep 14 07 09:15

I've hilighted where you mentioned "the states." So, correct me if I'm wrong.

Thinking of excuses. And honestly I personally have the last view. If you're not religious, marriage loses the religious meanings. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff40"]And here in the states why do homosexual couples want to get married besides the fact they want to be accepted? [/FONT]Benefits. You don't recieve the same amount of benefits as married folks do. So that's government related. So if you make the benefits the same for common law as married of course marriages are going to plummet.

Sportsdude · Sep 14 07 09:19

purelife wrote:
I've hilighted where you mentioned "the states." So, correct me if I'm wrong.

[em]Thinking of excuses. And honestly I personally have the last view. If you're not religious, marriage loses the religious meanings. [font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 64);"]And here in the states why do homosexual couples want to get married besides the fact they want to be accepted? [/font]Benefits. You don't recieve the same amount of benefits as married folks do. So that's government related. So if you make the benefits the same for common law as married of course marriages are going to plummet.[/em]

that's a fact. They want to be treated like everyone else but they also want the benefits that regular heterosexual couples enjoy. It's acceptance and the wanting of government to recognize their love, then they want the equal amounts of benifts that heterosexual couples get.

P.C. · Sep 14 07 09:24

marriage is something for religions.
marriage is the establishment
marriage is something that ties someone down changes them
marriage tends to be too structured you'll get a controlling
marriage ended bad the first time around or second or third etc.
In the end if you're not religious marriage is just a government piece of paper.

I said it was a load of crap, because none of the above is true for many.

I'm not religious.

It has nothing to do with the establishment for me.

I'm not 'tied down', nor is my husband and there will always be changes married or not. It's called growth.

I have no idea how you are connecting marriage and control.

I don't know what the next line even means.

I could care less about the piece of paper. To me it is about the level of commitment.

Sportsdude · Sep 14 07 09:30

I'll repeat this again it goes with my just naming broad excuses why some people choose not to get married and stay common law.

"It really does have a lot to do with the fact that it's much more acceptable to live together before you get married and in a lot of cases, people don't bother getting married because thre really isn't any cultural imperative on them to do so," said Kathy Lynn, a certified family educator, speaking with CTV's Canada AM Wednesday.

cultural imperative:
they're not religious
nobody they know is married
There isn't any real benefit to get married
Something (cultural wise) has made them not want to get married.

In France most of the general public now gets civil unions. Due to law you have to go to the government first to get a civil union and then on to the church or whatever to get 'married'. If you are not religious you skip the second part.