van_guy wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]I hate to say, but I have always belived this from day one....but that was only my gut talking. [/div]
PC. I honestly didn't get a gut reaction ... I had no opinion ... then a friend mentioned a couple of the following to me and I poked around you tube and the internet in general and found 100's of things that are unsettling.
The most unsettling thing is how quiet the mainstream media in the US is on this whole thing. There is a stigma that if you question this thing you are un-american (a bad person)
There are just soooooooooo many weird things about 9/11 that just don't add up or are just so statistically improbable that it boggles the mind. I'm a scientist so I look at facts all day long and decide the most reasonable explaination and I have a hard time believe a bunch of guys with box cutters pulled this whole thing off.
Fact: no steel reinforced skyscraper had collapsed due to fire before 9/11 then in one day 3 of them collapse -all owned by the same guy! who happened to bought them a couple months before, and who happened to have taken out multi billion dollar insurance against terrorism.
Fact: all 3 collapsed at free fall speed, i.e. with little or no resistance from the structural elements below
Fact: all 3 huge towers collapsed into thier own footprint - it takes trained demolition crews months to demolish building so that this happens - but all three do it on the same day due to inhomogenous damage (i.e. the planes did not hit dead center of the buildings) this doesn't make sense to me.
Fact: the twin towers were designed to be hit by large aircraft
Fact: the buildings were scrapped before a thorough investigation could be completed.
Fact: traces of thermite (an explosive used to demolish buildings) was found by a prof at BYU in some of teh steel from the site.
Weird fact: one of the terrorists passports was discovered in the streets below. A piece of paper survives an inferno that was supposed to be so intense it softened steel??
Weird fact: BBC has found several of the 9//11 hijackers alive and well
There are hundreds of more weird things that I could spout on about ... if there were only one or two things that were difficult to explain I'd be OK with that ... but 100's of things that are difficult to explain ...
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Fire: Seriously man, this isn't a fire in a started in a trash can in some office.
Steel melts at extremely high temperatures.
Weird fact: one of the terrorists passports was discovered in the streets below. A piece of paper survives an inferno that was supposed to be so intense it softened steel??
When Columbia blew up over Texas weeks later they found bacteria samples from the mission on the ground still alive.
If you truly believed this, then where's the public outcry, why didn't thousands of people just storm the white house or something. You're searching in the wrong places for something. You're just looking as foolish as people who supported the FLQ in October '72 thinking that they were some kind of movement to prosperity instead of just thugs.
You know I wish the Pacific Northwest and West Coast wasn't so paranoid. Take that back, why are all the regions paranoid? God, I had to deal with this crap in the Midwest about the end of times if gay people got married or this person got elected and such. Then I come up here and its 'They're going to shoot Obama, the secret service, because they're white nationals, so he won't get elected' (heard that on the radio to Seattle) (and he got elected) now its he'll never see the end of his term(s) (well 10 bucks he will) or some other bizarre logic about the government trying to take away all of your guns or something (prevalent in the midwest/south).
Communism this, police state that, seriously are we grown ups here or just mindless blobs of children who spout off their faces without realizing what they're saying? I don't understand this mentality and it takes a certain type of individual I guess to believe this utter shit. I always wondered who are the types that listened to George Noory or something at night, I wondered, 'what is really f*cked up with their life to actually believe in this crap, why do they go searching for this utter nonsense, what leads them to this point?' Well apparently smart people to get mixed up in this goofiness and that's a shame.
The reality, Bush knew of it, but didn't act and we know this through intelligence reports. Now if you want to use this for their reason for their wars, then yeah they used this event to trump up wars. Thatcher used the winter of discontent to bring in neo-liberalism, Hitler used the Wiemar Republic to gain control, Lenin through wars and a vacuum of power structure. etc that's politicking
But to say these things without really even thinking about them clearly and realize what you are saying, or implying is rather foolish. Like I said, if you believed this the last 8yrs would have been different and you'd of been so scared of the government that you'd of moved into the hinterland, built a cabin, and cut of all internet/radio/tv contact and just sit there with a shotgun preparing for the invasion.
People can believe anything I suppose.
