P.C. wrote:
[span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"]a person with depression has to somehow get to that level before they can implement those ideas.[/span]
I agree, and would never suggest that someone just Shake It Off unless they were just being a whiner. I believe that it is important to do SOMETHING, to act, to force yourself to take any small step in any direction other than down. One must at least try, or else the downward spiral simply continues unarrested.
Anything that breaks the pattern may open the door enough of a crack to see some light. And because helping one's self is very difficult with depression, because of the feelings of apathy, worthlessness, and self-loathing, often the act of helping others, even if it feels forced or fake, can take you out of that place for brief enough periods to offer hope.
So often people who have given up will still rally to help a fallen stranger. Many a person who has decided, during some sort of catastrophe, to lie down and die, will see another who is not going to make it and put in a last push to save them, thus saving themselves...