Sportsdude wrote:
Both. Saint Louis is a de facto community when it comes to race.
That has nothing to do with guns, gun ownership, or misuse of firearms.
Its been segregated from the begining with certain areas labeled as black areas where we've grown up being taught not to go to hence they're teaching us racism. There are places where black people are taught not to go to because they will get checked, pulled over and harrassed by the police, especially at night.
That also has nothing to do with guns, gun ownership, or misuse of firearms.
In the seventies the white people that lived in North Saint Louis moved out to St. Charles County this was called the "white flight". Since then the area has been in decline.
Again, that has nothing to do with guns, gun ownership, or misuse of firearms.
Urban decay has taken place but its due to many factors one of them gang crime and drug crime. And this is where illegal guns come in. To blame "the gun" for North St. Louis and now North St. Louis County's problem on it [span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]would be wrong [/span]but it is a significant factor.
I'd like to see that stats that support your opinions on how firearms destroyed this community and/or were responsible for any of the things you mentioned above. Because I can't make heads or tails of your "proof" and your claims have been thoroughly debunked. You yourself admit that "To blame "the gun" for North St. Louis and now North St. Louis County's problem on it [span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]would be wrong".[/span] Well, okay, so which is it?
You began by claiming all sorts of incredible shit- "anyone can buy a machine gun", "juveniles can buy machine guns", "no background checks are required for gun purchases", etc etc. And it was all FALSE- every bit of it.
Now you're going on and on about St. Louis neighborhoods and how crappy they are, but you refuse to acknowledge that [span style="text-decoration: underline;"]virtually every single thing you originally claimed is, in fact, utter crap. [/span]
Pardon me if I lose interest in this conversation from here on out, okay?
[font style="font-style: italic;" size="1"]Edited to tone down my language - tb[/font]