Organic Food No Healthier than Regular Food

Started by Russ, Jul 30 09 09:06

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Russ

Ive been saying this for a while.. finally proof! (i think).

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Mercy to the Guilty is Torture to the Victims

JJ

Organic isn't about what is in the product but what [STRONG class=bbc]isn't [/b]in the product. It doesn't contain pesticides nor is it GMO!!!!! When will people figure this out.

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49er

every time I think of organic fruit & vegetables I think of animal waste as fertilizers

P.C.

lol 49er.  Organic or not, you can be sure the soil is fortified with animal waste.  Plus it all gets rained on by the same rain.  

Organic stuff always looks sooooo sad.  Ratty, tatty, brown spotted yuckiness.  
 
Sir Isaac Newton invented the swinging door....for the convenience of his cat.

Teh Lise

Pfft... Russ is anti-organic / anti-healthy / anti-anything except for goats.

P.C.

Pfft... Russ is anti-organic / anti-healthy / anti-anything except for goats

I'm not anti-organic or anti-healthy, but I am anti-hysteria about everything we put in our mouths.  I think they have seriously undermined their own credibility by announcing the results of  'major' studies, only to counter them 6 months down the road, with the exact opposite results.  

I withdrew from all of that crap many years ago...and just eat 'whatever' in moderation.  I swear the amount of stress people put on themselves worrying about what they're eating, is far more harmful than whatever it is they're eating.
 
Sir Isaac Newton invented the swinging door....for the convenience of his cat.

Sportsdude

Well with my farming background I can be sort of be a cynic on the issue and annoy people.

Yeah, you wouldn't want to eat your food if you knew what was on it and the dirty lakes I've seen etc.

likewise,

organic means 'using agents that are naturally occurring' aka lots of mercury to kill stuff.


that's in terms of pesticides

farming:

When a lot of people say 'organic' they mean 'local' and 'non-mass produced farms'.
Well newsflash, I'm sorry to break to those people but those farms don't exist. The days of 100 acre farms died 30-40yrs ago. And, those 'family farms' are still 'family farms' but have become a corporation of a farm of 3,000+ acres in order to meet the needs of an ever growing consuming society and world. (I remember as a child back in '94, grandpa telling me the grains went to Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union)

So to some 'organic' means to go back to a simpler time where there were small produced farms that looked a lot like gardens and sold locally. Overall, the rural farming communities sadly moved away from this trend in the 80s with the advent of Wal-Mart. Any rural resident below 40 doesn't know how to garden for example (obesity rates soared in this period). That trend is coming back so, inevitably the 'farmer's market' is slowly resurfacing.


but in terms of nutrients? Doesn't make sense to me. A potato is a potato. The organic movement rose out of a resistance to free-trade globalization, but morphed into genetic modification when Monsanto got ahead of themselves with modified corn/cows.

So now it means many things to many people and is rather confusing, especially now that its gone corporate. Kinda like fair trade.

 
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P.C.



I think you're way off on so many of those comments SD.  I wonder if the guidelines for organic requirements is different in the states than it is here.  To be classified as organic, there are a number of stringent guidelines to adhere to.  Organic here, does not mean local.  Never has.  Totally different concept....so....news flash...they DO exist.  And farmers markets never disappeared here....at least they never have at any time during my lifetime so far.  
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Sportsdude

BC is not an overall representation of the rest of North America.

travel America and 'organic' means local and no pesticides.

 
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JJ

When I buy produce I buy local as much as possible then look for organic.  But we have to face it there are no local oranges in BC.  :)

P.C.

 SD, I'm wondering if you're confusing your own interpretation of what 'organic' means as opposed to what it actually means.  The US requirements are pretty close to the same as BC's.  
To have 'organic' included on the product, it has to pass set standards as set out in the NOSB (National Organic Standards Board) and be verified by an accredited certification agency as meeting those standards.  

   
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49er

I wasn't aware buying local has anything to do with "organic"....... buying local for me means wanting to reduce the carbon footprint

P.C.

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lol....you're right 49er...organic has nothing to do with local.  I forgot too, that I think even the soil has to be free of contaminates for 3 to 5 years before you can start.  It's not a simple process to be certified organic.
   
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49er

personally, I tend to buy "green" than buy "organic".  Fortunately most of our fruits and vegetables are grown in California

P.C.

 I buy what's affordable and good quality.  I don't care where it's from.  
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