Should we pay carbon tax?

Started by Lise, Jun 19 08 08:01

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Should we pay carbon tax?

Yes
5 (45.5%)
No
6 (54.5%)
Undecided
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Russ

Sportsdude wrote:
 About me? Russ you use political labels that a commentator on Fox News, Conservative Radio uses to polarize people, words of hate which have been condemned by both sides of the aisle down here and in Canada, it's what is wrong with politics. We're having an election based on 15-25 years of baseless hate words that have polarized people. People are tired of the cheap words. I used to be like that too, but you know, I'm trying to change because its pointless. If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all, people would tell me. It's childish behaviour fit for 5 year olds.

You've missed my point, when a region starts to feel disenfranchised they'll start to think people in their state/province are against them. My family is from Southern Illinois. They hate Chicago, they're paranoid in believing that Northern Illinois doesn't care about Southern. In the 90s there was a movement to split from Illinois. The movement went nowhere and it was rather laughable, but the anger toward 'Chicago' is still there and the people will complain saying 'Illinois isn't fixing the roads again, they need to pave a road in Chicago' or something like that.

In Missouri, there's people that live in Kansas City and St. Louis and then there's everyone else. The 'everyone else' hates St. Louis and Kansas City as 'bastions of liberalism, black people and multi-culturalism'. Here in the two cities we see the rural area as backwards and racist while the rural area sees us as a cess pool of people causing all the problems in Missouri. Any state or province or country where there's one giant city which has most of the area's population and political power, will cause political angst in other parts of its territory. Chicago- Illinois, Missouri-KC and STL, Atlanta-Georgia, Providence-RI, Toronto-Ontario, Montreal-Quebec, Halifax-Nova Scotia, Boston- Mass.


I don't just hang out with 'college' age kids. Just talk to people on the ferries, in public, on the beach in Tofino or Victoria and in the media.


No didnt miss your point. I happen to agree with you, but I feel its more the interior then the Island which is being quashed by decision makers in high population areas. I happen to know many people from the interior that talk about cappucino sucking lower mainlanders. lol. I hate cappucino.

 Many of my family and friends on the island prefer the island over the mainland.. and so will stay there.

 Im trying, as are others on here (I think) to not just take some information and apply it with a brush.

 How the hell can you write so much so fast? Im having troubles with what I have written here so far. lol

 
 
Mercy to the Guilty is Torture to the Victims

P.C.

 Driving is one of the leading causes of global warming so it's only fair that people who drive should have to pay carbon tax.  

  In a way that makes sense Richard.....the only problem with that is, it's the means in which everything gets moved.  Food, clothing....well.....everything makes it's way to us by truck.  The high costs of gas alone, have jacked the price of shipping up already.  To add another tax on top of that really will make the difference for some people to even put food on the table.

  The other reason I disagree that people who drive should be responsible for this tax, is that many have no alternate choices.  I also think a person who is not a driver, but does nothing to reduce, recycle and reuse.....is contributing to the problem as well.[/DIV]
Sir Isaac Newton invented the swinging door....for the convenience of his cat.

Michel


Sportsdude

 Russ wrote:
No didnt miss your point. I happen to agree with you, but I feel its more the interior then the Island which is being quashed by decision makers in high population areas. I happen to know many people from the interior that talk about cappucino sucking lower mainlanders. lol. I hate cappucino. Many of my family and friends on the island prefer the island over the mainland.. and so will stay there.[/p] Im trying, as are others on here (I think) to not just take some information and apply it with a brush. [/p] How the hell can you write so much so fast? Im having troubles with what I have written here so far. lol
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Great! Yes, I feel very fortunate to come from two different societies with two completely different views of the world. One is the rural society/culture which feels constantly oppressed by the cities. While the other says its the rural people's fault. The reality is that it's somewhere in between, both sides don't get it. A lot of the 'city' folks would say I was a hypocrite for taking a middle ground on a rural vs. urban issue. My response is and always will be, 'you don't understand, you have to walk in their shoes, live their life then  you might be able to understand the rural vs. urban divide'. (I say the same to the rural people who complain as well). Both sides response always seems immature to me, to the extent of "So what if this legislation is bad for urban/rural, you don't like them, so break with them." I can't do that, because what is good for the farmers is good for the urbanites. So rural vs. urban divides have always fascinate me. It's amazing how someone who lives an hour and a half outside of a metro area can have a totally different view on this world as someone who lives an hour away.

Good legislation has to address both rural and urban concerns. The main complaint from the rural side from what I've seen and lived is the no development case. "All the taxes go to... (insert city)".  Doesn't really matter what state/country/province, it's the same song. Easy solution. Campbell's Transportation plan, is for the most part Vancouver centric. Where's the 'hey we need an LRT in Victoria' or 'lets give the local cities control of where the bus routes go and not have somebody from an office in Victoria dictate that they know what's best for Nanaimo, Kelowna, Kamloops etc'.  Greatest example of this is Nanaimo's buses. The so called 'city centre' bus stop isn't at the 'city centre'. It's by the old train station in the uptown area. Who decided to move this? Somebody in Victoria. The local governments must have power over these decisions. Translink being taken over by Victoria, bad.

Last time I took a typing test I could type 80-100 words per minute, but I usually type a lot faster if I'm thinking off the top of my head instead of copying something. Horrible writer free hand. Hands write too slow for the brain. Personally, universities should do their tests on the computer, instead of a piece of paper and a pen. Then again nobody my age really writes anymore. Real life I'm a long winded talker. I can talk for days and days and days and days. You hand me a rock and I could talk about it for 10 minutes.
I typed up a 5 page essay in about 30 minutes for Sociology class this year. Prof worried I was spending too much time on his class and not others. lol

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"We can't stop here. This is bat country."

Van

Jebus! Too much reading^

I will just assume you wrote about how great I am!  
When the End comes, don't worry if your party shoes are clean or not. Just make sure you have them on!

Lil Me

Hey Van.  I think the expression you're searching for is TL;DR.  TooLong; Didn'tRead  
"In the absence of clearly-defined goals, we become strangely loyal to performing daily trivia until ultimately we become enslaved by it."  Robert Heinlein

Van

You mean he wasn't writing great things ab-b-bout me?...
When the End comes, don't worry if your party shoes are clean or not. Just make sure you have them on!

Lil Me

*bless*
 The Reader's Digest version is...Van is one cool guy...thighs of steel...funny as heck...he's everyone's best friend.
   
"In the absence of clearly-defined goals, we become strangely loyal to performing daily trivia until ultimately we become enslaved by it."  Robert Heinlein

Van

Awww, what a sweetie *bless back*...(psst, thanks for fibbing).
When the End comes, don't worry if your party shoes are clean or not. Just make sure you have them on!

Lil Me

Should I tell everyone that you are 6'8"?  
"In the absence of clearly-defined goals, we become strangely loyal to performing daily trivia until ultimately we become enslaved by it."  Robert Heinlein

Van

Yes, and also tell them I am done with the gym because I am too huge for the weights there!
When the End comes, don't worry if your party shoes are clean or not. Just make sure you have them on!

Sportsdude

"We can't stop here. This is bat country."

P.C.

lol.....yer killing me.
Sir Isaac Newton invented the swinging door....for the convenience of his cat.

Michel


Sportsdude

Gordo gives the North a giant f- you
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hilarious
 
"We can't stop here. This is bat country."

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