No polar bears and an ice-free arctic in 23 years?

[P.C.]

 You think you do something good with recycling ? Newsflash, recycling never existed on a "large" scale before somebody create a business from it.

  I don't think recycling is the answer from the standpoint of conserving resources.....but at this point, if recycling it keeps it out of the landfills......so be it.

  You drive no economy at all. The capitalists do, and one against the other. Hence the anarchy, the waste, the aberrations and the conflicts.

  If you don't think 'our' need for convenience and luxury isn't playing a huge role in this....I think that's naive.  I think it all starts on a more basic level....and that's with the consumers.

       

[Michel]

   

[P.C.]

I don't think a non luxurious car will pollute less than a fancy car if both are designend to be efficient at whatever the cost.

  I agree with you there.  I was mostly referring to disposable products, that we have come to believe that we NEED.  I believe your analogy of putting a bandaid on a cancer is true.....but I believe that what I'm describing isn't the bandaid.....it's the root of what causes the cancer.

[Michel]

     

[P.C.]

 Profits rule the decision. What can you expect? The aim is NOT to be logical at long term or efficient BUT to be the most profitable possible.



As long as the final destination is wrong, you'll never get where you wanna go.

  Where are the profits from a society that doesn't buy into this lifestyle ?[/DIV]

[Michel]

     

[P.C.]

I think I can't dispute much of what you say.  I suppose I'm speaking more from a place that's several steps before there is even a company that is sitting there figuring out how to increase their profits.  Many of these companies wouldn't exist if there wasn't a market for their products.

[P.C.]

Gotta run......but have to give you some good karma for a good conversation. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c020.gif" border=0]

[Michel]

     
 

[P.C.]

lol....thanks Michel.  The roast beast is in the oven......apparently we are out of propane, so no rotisserie tonight.  Veggies are prepped and ready to go.  

[Michel]

     
 

[P.C.]

I like your avatar.  I can't exactly make it out, but I like the colours and shapes.

[Michel]