"Probably" Won't Destroy The World

TehBorken · Sep 24 06 07:07

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Mutilated Mind · Sep 24 06 04:51

I have seen pictures of the Large Hadron Collider when it was still in construction. It's impressive, I can tell you that.

As far as destroying the world is concerned, I am pretty confident that this is never going to happen. They thought the same thing when they exploded the first atomic bomb in Los Alamos in 1944 or 1945. They feared the explosion could, perhaps, set afire the planet's atmospheric layer.

But of course you never know...

Raver · Sep 25 06 01:50

If any of you guys have read the John Titor stuff on the web, this is pretty interesting, given that CERN is involved.

Just a quick synopsis for those not familiar with John Titor. He was supposedly a time traveller form the year 2036 that was here to retrieve an IBM 5100 series computer to correct some problem in his time. The computing language that was needed to perform this was only understood by this partiucular type of machine and they had long since disapperared.

John went on to make all sorts of predictions. Most are vague enough that current events can be said to be a fullfillment of his prophecys. Some are just outright incorrect. Still, it makes for interesting reading if you are bored.

Anyway, the reason that the CERN connection is of interest is because 5 years ago when John made his predictions he said that CERN would create microsingularities or mini black holes. This is the technology that he claimed made time travel possible.

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Mutilated Mind · Sep 26 06 04:23

Raver wrote:
John went on to make all sorts of predictions.
Most are vague enough that current events can be said to be a fullfillment of his prophecys. Some are just outright incorrect.

Still, it makes for interesting reading if you are bored. Anyway, the reason that the CERN connection is of interest is because 5 years ago when John made his predictions he said that CERN would create microsingularities or mini black holes. This is the technology that he claimed made time travel possible.
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It's a fact that recreating and studying some of the conditions existing in the vast cosmos, such as in the insides of stars, is right now one of the important activities of some big physics labs in the world. So I wouldn't put it past us humans to reach this goal sooner or later. It's probably only a matter of time (no pun intended).

As for John Titor's existence, I thought this had been debunked some years ago ? However the case may be, it does make for interesting reading, if only because it might make some people think about some of the issues, such as the possibility of WW III.

Raver · Sep 26 06 09:07

I think you're right about John Titor's existance being debunked. I wanted to include the link to that as well but I can't seem to find it. It seems the internet would rather believe its true.

TehBorken · Sep 26 06 09:40

I can't help thinking that if they did turn their gizmo on and it did destroy the whole world....wouldn't that just be so damn funny?

"Okay, here we go, I'm bringing the black-hole generator online right now and w

Mutilated Mind · Sep 26 06 09:48

TehBorken, even if it would be funny - who would laugh ?

If a tree is falling in a forest but nobody is there to listen, would there be a sound ?

TehBorken · Sep 26 06 03:08

Mutilated Mind wrote:
If a tree is falling in a forest but nobody is there to listen, would there be a sound ?

Of course there would. Sound doesn't depend on a pair of ears present to exist.

Mutilated Mind · Sep 27 06 12:16

TehBorken wrote:
Of course there would. Sound doesn't depend on a pair of ears present to exist.
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Where do you hear the sound ? Do you hear it in the air or in your mind ?
Would you hear it if you had no ears or auditory nerves ?

One has to distinguish between sound and sound waves which are the physical carriers of sound.

Anyway, this is an old little conundrum which I didn't invent myself, I have to admit.

TehBorken · Sep 27 06 05:24

Mutilated Mind wrote:
Where do you hear the sound ? Do you hear it in the air or in your mind ?

In your brain. There really is no such thing as the "mind".

Would you hear it if you had no ears or auditory nerves ?

Of course not. But the sound would still be there.

One has to distinguish between sound and sound waves which are the physical carriers of sound.

Not me.

Anyway, this is an old little conundrum which I didn't invent myself, I have to admit.

There's nothing puzzling about it. The sound is there whether we're there to hear it or not. And no amount of under-graduate metaphysics or insightful pondering will make a bit of difference.

Raver · Sep 27 06 10:08

How about this...

If a married man speaks and his wife is not around to hear him, is he still wrong?

kitten · Sep 27 06 11:42

Probably.

Gopher · Sep 27 06 11:45

kitten wrote:
Probably.

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Mutilated Mind · Sep 28 06 11:55

TehBorken wrote:
Mutilated Mind wrote:
Where do you hear the sound ? Do you hear it in the air or in your mind ?

In your brain. There really is no such thing as the "mind".
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If you say so...

Would you hear it if you had no ears or auditory nerves ?

Of course not. But the sound would still be there.
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What sound ? There are sound waves, but tell me where is that sound you are saying is there ?

Gopher · Sep 28 06 11:57

One of the great paradoxes of life is that silence often speaks louder than sound.