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Sportsdude wrote:
<DIV>Johnny may I ask whay music scene? Grunge died years ago. Vancouver has its own indie scene heck on itunes under Canada they have a section called 'Vancouver Pop'. Seattle doesn't have its own itunes catagory.</DIV>
Sportsdude, grunge was not even the first wave of music to come from Seattle. Look on wikipedia under Arts in Seattle for more on this. Grunge was just the first genre to recieve the worlds attention and really put Seattle in the conciousness of music fans. Since then the music scene has diversified even more and is still turning out internationally recognized acts. Examples are Modest Mouse, Band of Horses (on letterman last month) the blood brothers, death cab for cutie (bellingham based) and also nearby Olympia has a great music scene all its own. There are also tons of music festivals, venues and recording studios where bands come to record with some of Seattle's more well known producers like Phil Ek ( the Shins, Built to Spill etc..) Vancouver has a small music scene that any city of any substantial size should and usually has, but it is in no way on the level of Seattle.

Seattle has way more to do than Vancouver. Seattle has a thriving music scene with tons of local events and venues. Seattle nightlife kills Vans period. Vancouver has Stanley park and a walkable downtown and that's about all. If livability to you is staring at the mountains and taking a walk in the park after a lunch of cheap sushi than Vancouver is it. If culture is what makes a city livable to you, then it's Seattle.

I am a Seattleite. I really like living in Seattle and think it gets better in some ways and worse in others. The traffic is bad and is getting worse. The city is becoming more urban and cosmopolitan which i like. Every ciy has its ups and downs but i think the good definitely outweighs the bad here.

That post is idiotic. You can find all levels of service in the U.S. from amazing to terrible. Unless everything is terrible because you are high maintenence and can't be pleased. Oh yeah, whoever believes in the " the customer is always right" cliche- you have never worked in the service industry.

So I\'ve been on the DV site now that i have heard so much about it on this one, and this is what i\'ve gleened from it so far.  1) Vancouver vs. ( fill in the blank with a city of your choice)           2) Hate living in Vancouver/ Love living in Vancouver           3) America sucks           4) Toronto sucks (or not if you live there)   There were some interesting ones in there as well, but the majority of topics seem to be taken from the above four mentioned above. I never knew about the rivalry between  Vancouver and Toronto but I guess it makes sense since there are only about four big cities in Canada.

I don't really care if they leave the city. Seattleites are pretty tired of paying for new stadiums. Naturally the Sonics feel left out since the Mariners and Seahawks got their stadiums built, but we can't go throwing away money on shit like this when we have transportation problems to fix. While I don't like to see any of the cities attractions go away, Seattle has enough other cultural and recreational opportunities to more than make up for it if they do leave.

Hi Allie,
          I have only been to the Kitsilano neighborhood once so I am not totally sure of what you are looking for as an equivalent. "Pill Hill" is actually the First Hill neighborhood and is called that (not by anyone i know though) because of the many hospitals in the area. Capitol Hill is the next neighborhood over and to the north of First Hill. Capitol Hill is a very young and urban area. It is home to Seattle's gay community as well. Residents of Capitol Hill are mainly in their twenties to early thirties. It is a mix of artists, students, service industry workers and professionals who work downtown. It is also home to a lot of the cities music community. There are many rock clubs, bars, restaurants etc.. There are areas of the hill that are loud, busy, and a little trashy. There are also areas that are very quiet and full of beautiful old bungalow style homes and brick apt buildings. I would suggest the area around 15 th avenue since you have a small baby. You can walk some of Seattle's oldest and most beautiful neighborhoods here. There are a few really good natural grocery stores in the area as well as indie coffee shops and Volunteer Park is here too. If you choose to live somewhere else besides Cap. Hill i would suggest Queen Anne Hill or the Wallingford/ Fremont area. There are a lot of great neighborhoods to choose from in Seattle so drive around before you choose. Good Luck!

Hey Sportsdude, to us in Seattle, having CBC on the cable t.v. is no big deal. We border Canada and are so used to Canadians being around that we don't understand your excitement over it. People in Vancouver probably feel the same about Washington. My Canadian friends tell me they watch our local news here in Seattle. If you move here you will see what i mean.

That's funny. I have never experienced that here in Seattle. Most everyone I know generally consider Canadians their friendly neighbors to the north. What university are you planning to attend? Is it in Seattle or Tacoma. I hope you had a nice trip here anyway.

Seattle wants Vancouver to enjoy all of the attention and accolades bestowed upon it for livability for there will come a time when the media will pick another favorite and you will be left to come to grips with that. Take it from us in Seattle, we've been there.

I am American and i know where Canada is. I'm pretty sure i can name all the provinces and the name of your P.M. All of my friends know where Canada is as well, have travelled to Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal, and had nothing but nice things to say about their experiences. I find it really funny when Canadians come out and say that Americans don't know anything about Canada. What is really expected of most Americans to know about Canada? The reason Canadians know more about the U.S. is because we are so big and produce a lot of culture, ideas and as of late a really corrupt gov. If you want people to notice you ,you have to do something noticeable. Now as a responsible citizen of the world i think it's good to know about politics and geography but the truth of the matter is you can't expect people to be fascinated with you if you contribute very little culturally to the world or something indistinguishable from the country just below you.

Sportsdude, most of us here are not familiar with the bus system in Tacoma as it is a separate city about 30 min. from Seattle. Seattle's bus system is very efficient as highly used. Good Luck! P.S. Canadian your post is ridiculous.

Hi, i am new here and live in Seattle. Is it me or is there a large Canadian contingent on this site? Anyway I have never lived in Vancouver, but i like visiting for sure. Vancouver has a very nice and walkable downtown area with more condos than i have ever seen in one place. I like Stanley park  a lot and the mountains are so in your face there. With all that being said though, i love to come back to Seattle. I like our neighborhoods on their steep hills overlooking the water. I like our cafe's, our music scene, the market, the Stranger and KEXP. I know lots of people living downtown is good but i really love to see those tall sleek skyscrapers of downtown Seattle as you drive in. They are both great in their own ways i guess.