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Title: Can they do this?
Post by: Lise on Feb 05 09 09:27
I heard a funny thing at work today. Because of the coming Olympics, they're shutting down campus for two weeks. They are STRONGLY urging us to use our vacation for the two weeks that they're closing. They can't do that, right? I mean, force us to take our vacation during the Olympics? That would be outrageous!

  I wouldn't mind if they would pay us the two weeks on top of our vacation but they won't and yet they're asking us if we could use our vacation for that. Unfair.
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 05 09 09:49
The same thing for students no school for 2 weeks. The hockey arena will be used for the games and the school is going on lock down with video cameras everywhere. Plus they're afraid of one of the most conservative student bodies in Canada doing something anti-olympics. lol


 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Michel on Feb 05 09 09:53
   
 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: 49er on Feb 05 09 10:55
they could lay you off for two weeks without pay.........would you prefer that?
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 05 09 05:36
Its a mandatory shut down executed by VANOC. They'll probably kick out the students living on campus too.  You can't resist it.
They're shutting down the libraries, locking all the buildings everything.

 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 05 09 05:46
That's strange.

  This from the Human Resourses at UBC...

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Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Lise on Feb 05 09 07:02
I hope so, PC. But it sure isn't fair to shut us out just because it's the Olympics. Word up is that they're not forcing us but suggesting that we do something elsewhere. I'm not sure what to do. Maybe just take the Friday(s) off. *shrug*

  Just wanted to know if they can do this to us legally or not. Thanks for helping, y'all.
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 05 09 07:56
Lise I don't know much about it.  But from what I've read so far, it is only a one week extension on the regular 1 week break.  As far as kicking students living on campus out.....can't see it happening.

  [FONT face=Arial size=2][FONT face=Arial size=2] [P align=left]"This will mean that students at the UBC Vancouver campus will receive a mid-term break

 [P align=left]extension during Term 2 in 2010 to two weeks instead of the usual one week. The 2009/2010

 [P align=left]Reading Break will be held Monday Feb. 15 to Friday Feb. 26, 2010. All relevant Senate

 guidelines regarding number of teaching days and scheduling of exams continue to be met."

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Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Orik on Feb 06 09 01:59
Lise Wrote :
"Just wanted to know if they can do this to us legally or not. Thanks for helping, y'all."

Doesn't UBC have a bunch of student lawyers ?

why not ask them to challenge it just to see what the legal recourse is and how Vanock reacts... and i bet you anything it will react with stormtroopers and massive doses of pepper spray... anything that challenges them will be quashed in the most forceful method possible as long as it generates no publicity...

i know of certain security firms that have orders to detain and remove any and all resisters of the Olympics, people with signs etc. are to be removed by the speediest and quietest methods to holding centers predesignated for removal by police officers

umm helloo thier is no freedoms anymore  2010 olympics is a joke... get me the hell out of this country to some distant shore of sunny beaches and semi nude bodys pls..

the only free speech left to us and the only legal action, we are allowed these days is to sit back STFU or get beat down and shot or taserd to death... this is what will be happening here at home... the closer to the olympics that it gets the more of a police state we will be living in..


 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 06 09 05:42
I don't think this is being executed by VANOC.  From everything I've read, I understand it as being something that the students requested, and supported.  Odd that the decision was made by students in 2007 for students in 2010......lol

 The decision was reached with the support of the student Senate Caucus and AMS.  They are still petitioning for this at UBCO saying "this one time reading break extension is a unique opportunity to represent our communities, our university and our country on the world stage"

  It doesn't sound like it is being foisted upon them AT ALL.[FONT face=Arial size=2][FONT face=Arial size=2] [P align=left]

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Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Michel on Feb 06 09 06:40
   
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: They on Feb 06 09 11:30
Yes we can.  
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: JJ on Feb 06 09 01:24
Because things were slow at Christmas I know of two companies that forced there employee's to take there vacation time, but they were both non-union.
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 06 09 11:42
 P.C. wrote:
I don't think this is being executed by VANOC.  From everything I've read, I understand it as being something that the students requested, and supported.  Odd that the decision was made by students in 2007 for students in 2010......lol
 The decision was reached with the support of the student Senate Caucus and AMS.  They are still petitioning for this at UBCO saying "this one time reading break extension is a unique opportunity to represent our communities, our university and our country on the world stage"
 
It doesn't sound like it is being foisted upon them AT ALL.


Well that's not what people in high places told me or anybody else. They gave the impression that the Olympic people didn't want us around with events being on campus and the security forces/cameras/check points that will be everywhere.

No buses or public transportation will be running to UBC.
Westbrook Mall will be blocked off no access without credentials.
I believe they're also shutting down either Marine or University too



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Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 07 09 09:37
Well that's not what people in high places told me or anybody else. They gave the impression that the Olympic people didn't want us around with events being on campus and the security forces/cameras/check points that will be everywhere.



  Maybe the people that are in high places were correct, or maybe their high places aren't as high as they think they are.  I don't know.  I just found that information on the UBC website.
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 07 09 09:54
Well the high places people would have to think of themselves as being the highest, because there's nobody above them. lol

Vanoc is shutting down transit to the school, barricading and closing off streets, and turning the campus into big brother with cameras located everywhere.  They don't want students around.
 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 07 09 10:08
Well....that's a little bit different than kicking students out of their living quarters. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/4.gif)
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 07 09 12:38
Yeah well I can guarantee nobody is going to be around, so if the intent is to get those pesky hipsters off campus well they win.

Although with the old senior retirement complex on campus and the million dollar condos, the rich and old people out number the students. Since that group has ultimate power around here, maybe they'll complain about noise levels during the olympics and will demand that they close early at 5pm so they can get some sleep. lol


 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: purelife on Feb 09 09 01:41
Lise wrote:
I heard a funny thing at work today. Because of the coming Olympics, they're shutting down campus for two weeks. They are STRONGLY urging us to use our vacation for the two weeks that they're closing. They can't do that, right? I mean, force us to take our vacation during the Olympics? That would be outrageous!



I wouldn't mind if they would pay us the two weeks on top of our vacation but they won't and yet they're asking us if we could use our vacation for that. Unfair.

  If I was told that I had to take vacation, I would (with or without pay).  I'd rather come back to a job than no job.  I have heard of companies telling their staff to take their vacations since there isn't much to do instead of laying them off.  I think that companies try to keep their good employees for as long as possible.
 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 09 09 09:29
They're shutting down Westbrook Mall for 4 months, so that'll put a wrench in all transit routes not taking 10th/Broadway or 4th.

lovely.


 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 10 09 08:04
4 months ?  It's a 2 week event.....what the ?  Surely that must be either an error or unrelated to the Olympics ???
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 10 09 08:29
Its not an error. They're shutting it down for 4 months.  
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 10 09 09:32
...and is the reason the Olympics ?
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Michel on Feb 10 09 10:01
   
 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 10 09 10:04
[A href="vny!://www.regent-college.edu/about_regent/gettingToRegent.html"]vny!://www.regent-college.edu/about_regent/gettingToRegent.html[/A]

    Here's a map of the area.
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Michel on Feb 10 09 10:17
   
 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 10 09 02:25
The road goes by the new hockey arena which is a venue.

The helicopter fly overs have become more frequent I've noticed.

 
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Michel on Feb 10 09 02:54
   
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 10 09 04:57
If only they used those helicopters to land on the Bacon Brother's lawn in Port Moody and send them away.  
Title: Re: Can they do this?
Post by: P.C. on Feb 10 09 05:14
They been buzzing aroung here all day as well.  Hmmm.