[h1 style="font-weight: normal;" class="headline"]RCMP subdue hospitalized man, 82, with Taser[/h1][a href="vny!://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/05/08/bc-kamloops-man-taser.html"]vny!://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/05/08/bc-kamloops-man-taser.html[/a]
Apparently he was holding a pocket knife but I mean come on RCMP I think you could take this guy:
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An elderly man in Kamloops, B.C., was zapped three times on the torso by a police stun gun while lying on his hospital bed, CBC News has learned. Frank Lasser, 82, appeared fragile Thursday when he showed the Taser marks on his body and talked about the ordeal he went through Saturday.[/p] "They [police] should have known I had bypass surgery," Lasser told CBC News.[/p] Lasser has had heart surgery and needs to carry an apparatus to supply oxygen at all times. He was in the Royal Inland Hospital Saturday due to pneumonia but has since been released.[/p]RCMP said nurses called police after Lasser became delirious and pulled a knife out of his pocket.[/p] Lasser told CBC News that he sometimes becomes delusional when he can't breathe properly. He said he couldn't explain why he refused to let go of the knife even after the Mounties arrived.[/p]"I was laying on the bed by then and the corporal came in, or the sergeant, I forget which it was, and said to the guys, 'OK, get him because we got more important work to do on the street tonight,'" Lasser said. "And then, bang, bang, bang, three times with the laser, and I tell you, I never want that again."[/p]"Whether the person is 80 or 20, we are dealing with a person who had a deadly weapon in their hand," Cpl. Scott Wilson told CBC News.[/p]"They could have gone in there and taken an old man without any trouble at all," said Lasser, who is an ex-prison guard.
"Whether the person is 80 or 20, we are dealing with a person who had a deadly weapon in their hand," Cpl. Scott Wilson told CBC News.
This kind of logic is frightening. The issue shouldn't be age or that they have a deadly weapon. The issues should be....are they going to use it (or can they use it)....is it a life threatening situation. The question should be, is there another way to diffuse the situation....or overpower him in a 'non-violent' way. My guess is, with an 82 year old man who is still in a hospital bed recovering from bypass surgery....the answer is yes.
This is just lazy police work.
P.C. wrote:
[em]"Whether the person is 80 or 20, we are dealing with a person who had a deadly weapon in their hand," Cpl. Scott Wilson told CBC News.[/em]
This kind of logic is frightening. The issue shouldn't be age or that they have a deadly weapon. The issues should be....are they going to use it (or can they use it)....is it a life threatening situation. The question should be, is there another way to diffuse the situation....or overpower him in a 'non-violent' way. My guess is, with an 82 year old man who is still in a hospital bed recovering from bypass surgery....the answer is yes.
This is just lazy police work.
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woot for P.C. That would be the most logical situation. It is indeed frightening that they're teaching people in RCMP to treat everyone the same. um, No you don't. lol
I find it funny that the 82 year old was a retired prison guard. I trust his opinion on subduing people. Worst job in the world.
I have to add, that for the most part, I support our police and find it offensive and plain wrong, when our media constantly undermines them at every opportunity. It serves no good. I don't envy them the job they have to do.
From personal experience I find police work extreme politicized up here less so down south. I don't know whether it has to do with the RCMP in general and that they're now a political football in the House of Commons, but there's seems to be a lot of contempt out there. Only times I see it back home is when racial stuff pops up in NY, Boston, Det, Chic, Stl, LA etc. Then again you can't really compare the two, I mean nobody would understand me if I said the police chief was getting death threats because he was appointed by a white mayor in a majority black city. You just can't compare that to something up here.
So I have no idea. lol
Nor do I understand the ant-Canadian Forces attitude in college campuses. CF is harmless oh big freaking whoop about Afghanistan, grow up. Just because you're against the military doesn't mean ban them from campuses.
SD, you find the smurfs political.
No. Why? Some do, they're as we say c-r-a-z-y.
Do you take your lunch to work, or do you walk.
I eat at the cafeteria so I walk.
Sportsdude wrote:
I eat at the cafeteria so I walk.
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I thought you were health conscious. Cafeteria food is mostly garbage.
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This kind of logic is frightening. The issue shouldn't be age or that they have a deadly weapon. The issues should be....are they going to use it (or can they use it)....is it a life threatening situation. The question should be, is there another way to diffuse the situation....or overpower him in a 'non-violent' way. My guess is, with an 82 year old man who is still in a hospital bed recovering from bypass surgery....the answer is yes.
This is just lazy police work.
Lazy and stupid - surely to God a cop in this day and age should have some idea that if he/she tazers an 82 year old guy in his hospital bed ... it's going to end up on the national news. Especially after the REALLY bad press about killing the Polish fellow in the airport a few months ago (which really pissed me off by the way). A tazer should only be used if every other option has been exhausted. Oh oh oh oh like talking - oh like asking a doctor if he has had - oh i don't know bypass surgery ... wtf was this cop thinking - that the old guy was gonna jump outta bed wheeze his way over to them lugging his oxygen bottle and stab them before they could jump out of the way? Take you freaking billy club - smack his knukles and he'll drop the knife. No sympathy for idiots packing guns - $hitcan the stupid bastard cop.
Not at my school, which is why we don't have a meal plan.
Sportsdude wrote:
So I have no idea. lol
Nor do I understand the ant-Canadian Forces attitude in college campuses. CF is harmless oh big freaking whoop about Afghanistan, grow up. Just because you're against the military doesn't mean ban them from campuses.
I don't understand either. I never had to think about this too much when I was in Uni mind you. Nowadays, different story. I might not agree with the "Bomb the enemy" attitude the Right preaches, Afghanistan, etc. But I am behind our soldiers in the Armed Forces 100%. It is one of the few things that actually make me proud to be Canadian these days. College kids opinions usually change though, the second they leave the school for good and join the real world.
Yeah I don't get the university campuses banning CF from putting ads in the student paper and banning having recruiters around. Big freaking whoop. Same goes for the ultra right wingers who bitch and moan at me for not being ultra nationalist, patriotic and in their view a traitor and anti-american. Whatever...
Whilst I think the current mission in Afghanistan is stupid from a Canadian view point because I take the American view point. Which is, we don't give a shit about anyone (cowboy diplomacy) and we'd rather do thing ourselves. Bush basically pulled out of Afghanistan because he wanted to play in the sand in Iraq. Anyway the Democrats want to rengage Afghanistan and make it an "American" war. So as American looking at the Canadian view point, I go "why fight Americans would rather themselves do everything". Anyway that's the view point down here. Frankly the way the states are now, any other country is invisible to us. (which has basically been the country motto for since a we marched to Concord).
For example why doesn't Canada have some sort of National Guard? Or (being a cynic-sarcastic here) is that too federalist in a confederation? Provinces would probably bitch and moan that the military isn't coming to save them 24/7 when a tornado comes through or better yet people would protest 'militarization of Canada' lol.
Canada's the only country I know where wannabe politicians don't join the military. As my friend said "we'd probably go 'so... you lost a leg in war, big deal man I lost a finger cutting stuff at Wendy's'"
lol
Sportsdude wrote:
For example why doesn't Canada have some sort of National Guard?
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It's called the Coast Guard.
*chuckles*
lol.
Then what does Alberta, Saskatchewan do in emergencies? No 'coast's there. lol
They could just do what TO did when they got too much snow, call in the armed forces. lol!
HAHAHA
Yeah that idea is out the window think of the bickering. Flooding happens in B.C. while at the same time Toronto gets a record snow fall but the government decides that B.C. is more pressing. Toronto then would complain and probably would want tanks on the street.
Or in Quebec's case, they wouldn't want the help because that would mean Canada helping them (depending on the party in power). We could have a Burma situation if the PQ was in power. PQ would say no to all help from Ottawa. lol