We're screwed. It's time for a wake-up call for all those people that think global warming is just a myth. Here are just a few news articles that have come out in the past few days on the subject of global warming: [/p][div class="entry-body"][li] "[a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-weight: bold;" href="vny!://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/sep/05/climatechange.sciencenews"]Ice-free Arctic could be here in 23 years[/a]," Sep 5, in [em]The Guardian[/em].
[blockquote]The Arctic ice cap has collapsed at an unprecedented rate this summer and levels of sea ice in the region now stand at a record low, scientists said last night. Experts said they were "stunned" by the loss of ice, with an area almost twice as big as Britain disappearing in the last week alone.
[/blockquote][/li][li] "[a style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);" href="vny!://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/08/science/earth/08polar.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin"]Warming Is Seen as Wiping Out Most Polar Bears[/a]," Sep 7, [em]New York Times[/em]: [blockquote]Two-thirds of the world's polar bears will disappear by 2050, even under moderate projections for shrinking summer sea ice caused by greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, government scientists reported on Friday.[/blockquote] [/li][li] "[a style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-weight: bold;" href="vny!://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003873003_arcticice07m.html"]Arctic ice cap to melt faster than feared, scientists say[/a]," Sep. 7, [em]Seattle Times.[/em] snip: [blockquote]About 40 percent of the floating ice that normally blankets the top of the world during the summer will be gone by 2050, says James Overland, an oceanographer at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory.
[/blockquote] [/li][li] Some additional background: the National Snow and Ice Data Center -- [a href="vny!://nsidc.org/"]Link[/a].[/li][/div]
its real and its happening and our politicians are too stupid.
Yeah its sad. Its funny actually. They're excuse is it will ruin the economy (the almighty dollar is god) but they fail to realize there won't be an economy when this reaches its peak. lol
If Darwinism has taught us anything the polar bears will survive, well some, by becoming land based. We already see it with Pizzies, Polar Bear/Grizzly mixed bears.
well I'm thinking they will I mean you're already seeing it with the Pizzies. But its a tough road for them. The best thing they can do is to wander into the land and find a lake and eat all the fish. Then when the seals come on land they're stalking them from the coast.
so what IS the solution? we've known about global warming ever since the hole in the ozone layer was discovered, and yet we keep electing leaders that do nothing, even now. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/8.gif)
It is kinda sad. Not just the Artic but everywhere else in the world is suffering. If we don't buckle up and do something NOW, we will not have a future for our children's children.
That may be true Michel....but I think a HUGE proportion of what needs to be done, needs to begin at home. It won't matter what else is done if we continue raising children to be wasteful by living in a world of disposable conveniences.
I watched in amazement the other day, at a commercial that was introducing 3 more types of baby wipes. One for 'sticky' messes.....one for their tender faces.....and one for.....the ususal. How ridiculous. A facecloth always worked for me.....and a facecloth in a tupperware container for travel.
But WE drive the economy.
They wouldn't get very rich, if we didn't buy into using the products that they TELL us we NEED. I used baby products as an example, because I think if there is an area of consumerism that is blown SO wildly out of proportion.....it's the baby products industry. But the same applies to the throw away world of cleaning products. Everything is use once and toss. Grossly excessive waste.
You think you do something good with recycling ? Newsflash, recycling never existed on a "large" scale before somebody create a business from it.
I don't think recycling is the answer from the standpoint of conserving resources.....but at this point, if recycling it keeps it out of the landfills......so be it.
You drive no economy at all. The capitalists do, and one against the other. Hence the anarchy, the waste, the aberrations and the conflicts.
If you don't think 'our' need for convenience and luxury isn't playing a huge role in this....I think that's naive. I think it all starts on a more basic level....and that's with the consumers.
I don't think a non luxurious car will pollute less than a fancy car if both are designend to be efficient at whatever the cost.
I agree with you there. I was mostly referring to disposable products, that we have come to believe that we NEED. I believe your analogy of putting a bandaid on a cancer is true.....but I believe that what I'm describing isn't the bandaid.....it's the root of what causes the cancer.
Profits rule the decision. What can you expect? The aim is NOT to be logical at long term or efficient BUT to be the most profitable possible.
As long as the final destination is wrong, you'll never get where you wanna go.
Where are the profits from a society that doesn't buy into this lifestyle ?[/DIV]
I think I can't dispute much of what you say. I suppose I'm speaking more from a place that's several steps before there is even a company that is sitting there figuring out how to increase their profits. Many of these companies wouldn't exist if there wasn't a market for their products.
Gotta run......but have to give you some good karma for a good conversation. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c020.gif" border=0]
lol....thanks Michel. The roast beast is in the oven......apparently we are out of propane, so no rotisserie tonight.(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/10.gif) Veggies are prepped and ready to go.
I like your avatar. I can't exactly make it out, but I like the colours and shapes.