Anybody knows a good one day course on how to do webpages for a complete rookie ? Also is there any shareware or freeware available online that for that purpose ?
i have no clue. Best to ask Lise or Tehborken.
sigh, my employer ask meto get training, and there's nothing I haven't done here yet in what's available, so she told me take anything you want. I would like to follow a one day course on webpage development. BCIT probably she said.
Hi Michel,
There are plenty of sites out there to start you on your way. I started with [A href="vny!://geocities.yahoo.com/"]vny!://geocities.yahoo.com/[/A] and have never looked back. Sign up for free then play around with it.
It also helps to know a bit of HTML language as well.
This will help: [A href="vny!://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp"]vny!://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp[/A]
If you have access to Photoshop, you can start incorporating images and pictures into your website. Otherwise, save a couple of images onto your computer and put them on your site.
Best of luck. If you need any additional help, you can PM me and I'll try to help.
Thanks Lise. I have Photoshop Elements. I will check the links you posted. If you ever know a one day course for rookie in Van, just tell me. The boss pay and it give me the chance to be out of here for one day ! yeah ! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)
Do you know a program (if possible for free) that forbid people to copy pics from a website ?
Some free web tools to help:
[A href="vny!://www.createforms.com/"]Html form maker[/A] - lets you make and host HTML or web forms without any programming
[A href="vny!://www.createsites.com"]Create Sites free tools[/A] - lets you create applications such as polls, etc.
[A href="vny!://www.createappointments.com"]Appointment Scheduling Webpage[/A] - lets you create a webpage without any programming to allow your customers / clients to book appointment with you online.
Hope some of these tools help. If you let me know the exact thing that you're trying to accomplish with HTML then maybe I can find some more targetted free web tools.
Thanks hobbit, basicaly, I would like to post pics on line so that people can have access to it but it would be impossible for anyone to copy those pics without permission (copyright). I think that there's a program called macroflash media that can do that (I can't remember the exact name of the program, but someone told me that many months ago). If I remeber well his explanation, when you pass the mouse on a thumbnail, the pic takes the entire screen, but you can't copy it, even with the right mouse button.
Michel wrote:
Thanks hobbit, basicaly, I would like to post pics on line so that people can have access to it but it would be impossible for anyone to copy those pics without permission
Sorry, but this is flatly impossible. If someone wants your image(s), they'll get them. No question about it, it is simply impossible to prevent anyone from copying images placed on the web.
(copyright). I think that there's a program called macroflash media that can do that (I can't remember the exact name of the program, but someone told me that many months ago). If I remeber well his explanation, when you pass the mouse on a thumbnail, the pic takes the entire screen, but you can't copy it, even with the right mouse button.
No, the best you can do is make it slightly difficult, and that's it. By "slightly difficult" I mean it would take someone an extra 10 seconds to copy the image.
Unless of course the 'someone' is me.
TehBorken ? PM me with tips please ? [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c020.gif" border=0]
lol
Sorry, but this is flatly impossible. If someone wants your image(s), they'll get them. No question about it, it is simply impossible to prevent anyone from copying images placed on the web.
No, the best you can do [span style="text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]is make it slightly difficult[/span], and that's it. By "slightly difficult" I mean it would take someone an extra 10 seconds to copy the image.
Yeah that's what I was thinking too since that's what my old sources of info told me. This woud be enough for me, those pics are not that important. It's just that I don't want to make people who try to live with photography lose money. There's so many "good" pic on the net (good in the eyes of the man on the street), that this profession has trouble now for the common usage. I know how serious amateurs can disturb the life of a pro. A simple deterrent that would stop 90 % of the "cheap" people out there, or worse the pseudo photographer who steal your work (that happened to me once) would be OK since these people anyway will look for another pic if it's too complicated to steal. Sure, I can put a copyright on the pic, but I don't like it, it look pretentious. And it's easy to cut anyway unless you ruined the entire pic by writing in the middle of it. I can use also a very bad resolution, but that's not fun either. For now, I just don't know any way to post a potentially commercial level pic without making it reusable.
I saw some photo site for example, if you try to copy with the right button mouse click or to cut and paste a pic, a window appear informing you about the copyright or to contact the owner of the pic to get the permission to use it. That would be OK for me. If you know a program that can do that, it would be perfect.
Even with pics that are 'non-right-clickable'.....if you wanted the pic bad enough.....can't you just do a screen capture? (I think I have [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/liebe/g038.gif" border=0])
I don't know how to do that, but since I know nothing about computer I'm quite sure that probably a lot of Internet geeks know how to do it. Does it keep the resolution of the pic?
Lol I'm curious PC, WHO WAS HIM ???
HIM ?
Oh, no him ? Ok I tought you did a screen capture of one of those hot guy from Hollywood, who knows, maybe Brad the Pit. lol (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/13.gif)
What commerical images are you talking about, Michel? Why not just go around and take pictures yourself, that way you will know that you're not doing anything illegal.
I may have some pictures. What do you need? (and don't say Russ goats. That's porn and it isn't allowed in here)
LOL, Lise I tought I was clear but my English been soso... I'm talking about pictures I took here. I don't want any of my pics to be used for free, hence forbidding people who try to make a living or hope to make a living from photography to lose some potential customers (not very serious customers I must agree).
I feel shame.
I've always been of the mind that if a picture shows up on MY computer...in MY house......then it's MINE. Possession is 9 tenths of the law. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c007.gif" border=0]
It's OK PC, you're not a tourism office or a calendar publisher trying to save money on the back of a profession.
The preety pics are there to be enjoyed.
Hmm, I didn't know that one could "do" a webpage. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif) ooooo...virtual do's!
Thanks Michel [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c015.gif" border=0]....lol
I use images off the computer all the time for making cards. However, if I'm making cards that are for distribution or money, I'm always careful to use non-copyrighted material.
Hmm, I didn't know that one could "do" a webpage. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif) ooooo...virtual do's!
Come here my little webpage, you'll stop laughing at my english lol (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/13.gif) [/DIV]
That's the thing to do PC !
purelife wrote:
Hmm, I didn't know that one could "do" a webpage. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif) ooooo...virtual do's!
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I suppose if you were on the right website you might be able to "DO" a webpage... just keep some kleenex with you as you could get the monitor and keyboard all sticky. :)
That is true Hobbit. There's this application (made in Japan).... need I say more?
So Hobbit, do YOU have detailed steps on how to DO a webpage? You sound like the pro, there! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif)
Eeeow. You guys are gross..... don't you ever touch my keyboards, you two!
purelife wrote:
So Hobbit, do YOU have detailed steps on how to DO a webpage? You sound like the pro, there! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif) [/DIV]
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Yes, I have detailed steps, but I've had to turn it into a members only paysite. :) In fact, one day I might just DO my OWN webpage. :)
Lise wrote:
Eeeow. You guys are gross..... don't you ever touch my keyboards, you two![/DIV]
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Would you like Purelife or I to DO your webpage? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/7.gif)
Hobbit, meet?
arrrrgh it's MY webpage, you must meet me PL !!! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/6.gif)
Address?
www://hot_for_pl_6969.com, can it be more original ? lol
Did you know that the numbers 6 and 9 are divisible by 3 and 3 is symbolic for trinity?! ;)
69 is sin i tell ya!
Hey foobar!
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Do you know the metric conversion of 69?
One eight one.
Eeeow. Why do I still keep coming in here? Why not just change the entire thread to Michel's Dirty World. You do the talking and I'll do the jiggling.
Jiggling? or Juggling?
Jiggle. Jiggle. Jiggle. Let your imagination roam purelife.....
Eeeow. Why do I still keep coming in here? Why not just change the entire thread to Michel's Dirty World. You do the talking and I'll do the jiggling.
hehehe because you're as bad as me... hehehe[/DIV]
Birds of a feather flock together... Maybe this thread should just be called 'All Internet Perverts in Here Please.' :)
As an aside, I don't understand why if you're a registered user you still have to type that annoying anti-spambot stopper code each time you post.
Michel wrote:
...If you ever know a one day course for rookie in Van, just tell me. The boss pay and it give me the chance to be out of here for one day...
As for taking classes, it sounds like your best bet is the continuing education department at a college. I checked UBC, but they don't seem to have a basic web-site design class going, but I could be wrong. Anyhoo, here's a couple colleges to check out:
VCC:
[A href="vny!://www.vcc.ca/cs/details.cfm?area=CSCOMPUTER#CMPT1173"]vny!://www.vcc.ca/cs/details.cfm?area=CSCOMPUTER#CMPT1173[/A]
[A href="vny!://www.vcc.ca/cs/details.cfm?area=CSCOMPUTER#CMPT1114"]vny!://www.vcc.ca/cs/details.cfm?area=CSCOMPUTER#CMPT1114[/A]
Langara:
[A href="vny!://www.langara.bc.ca/cs/programs/WEBP.html#INET1066"]vny!://www.langara.bc.ca/cs/programs/WEBP.html#INET1066[/A]
To design my web-pages I use Microsoft Front Page and Dreamweaver MX 2004. They do cost money but the results are great.
Another thing you can do to design your web-page--it is kind of sneaky, but a friend of mine said it is done all the time--is when you see a web-page you really like you can do File then Edit with Microsoft Front Page or do File then Save As webpage, complete which will save all the CSS, graphics, HTML and stuff for that page and use whatever web-page design program you have to edit the web-page to make it the way you like it for yourself.
As far as I am aware, one cannot "prevent" copying of pictures or images from the intranet. Even if you can't do the right click and "save picture as" you can do the "print screen" and paste to a photo editing program like Paint (which comes with every Windows OS program.
Once your picture or video gets out there in cyberspace it is a free for all, and I think it is pointless to think about who is stealing what and copyright issues. Maybe one thing to do is select only those images you are okay with the world "stealing" and let people know if they want more to contact you directly or set up your web-page that people need to be a member or something in order to be able to view the images.
Good luck!
[p class="MsoNormal"][span lang="FR-CA"]Thanks a lot wyk for all those valuable informations. I'll try to find a one day course in these colleges, otherwise I'll just do the File as webpage trick to modify it heavily after. Hence I'll learn by myself and then I can begin from scratch later. I have an old copy of Webexpert somewhere, wonder if this can do the job? I used it only once or twice for tex only at work, many years ago. Maybe a book from the dummies series would be helpful (I think I saw one once on web pages).[/span][/p] [p class="MsoNormal"][span lang="FR-CA"][!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--] [o:p][/o:p][/span][/p] [span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman";" lang="FR-CA"]I never heard about the print screen and paste trick. I'll try that to see if it (unfortunately) works when I'll see a well protected site where you can only make the pic larger by keeping the mouse on the thumbnail.
Otherwise, I might have to resort to a deterrent à la Istock but it's not fun me think.
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The VCC classes are one days, on Saturday I think.
I'd get a book that told me how to use a particular web design program rather than try to tinker with CSS, HTML, or XML. For example, I use Dreamweaver and FrontPage so I have books that tell me how to use them. Check your local library or even on Amazon.ca for cheapies. You are right the Dummies would be good. I also like the Teach Yourself Visually books.
That picture you posted, that is a very good way to prevent your images from being lifted. Yeah, it may not be "nice" but it does work!
That's true.....it certainly stops 'theft'....but from a personal point of view ? I can't be bothered with such sites. As soon as I see this, I move on. If it's your goal to post beautiful pics....that's the quickest way to ruin them.
Michel wrote:
LOL, Lise I tought I was clear but my English been soso... I'm talking about pictures I took here. I don't want any of my pics to be used for free, hence forbidding people who try to make a living or hope to make a living from photography to lose some potential customers (not very serious customers I must agree).
Set watermarks to your pictures, just like gettyimages or any other stock photography website do.
Example:
(//vny!://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3926/jackieguerrido01260604nh7.jpg)
Should have read the end of this thread. Sorry! That solution has already been posted!
I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about watermarks using Photoshop? How does one do it?
I don't do watermark yet but I put my name and a c in a circle with the year in a corner.
i still find the topic of this thread funny.
Michel wrote:
I don't do watermark yet but I put my name and a c in a circle with the year in a corner.
Yeah, I'm thinking about copyright but they can edit the stuff out. It's easy to do that.
Hey wik, thanks for the saturday vcc classes info, awesome, definitly an option and I'm sure the boss will give me a day off during the week in exchange. Cool !
Yeah, I'm thinking about copyright but they can edit the stuff out. It's easy to do that.
Definitly, and that's why I asked the question here. furthermore, it looks pretentious, and I hate that.
Happy howeber to see that our bolchevik-castroist-blue-collar-parasite-union-lover-SD-who-doesn't-respect-petty-bourgeois-imperialist-copyrights find it funny. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Angry/3.gif) [/DIV]
Michel wrote:
Happy howeber to see that our bolchevik-castroist-blue-collar-parasite-union-lover-SD-who-doesn't-respect-petty-bourgeois-imperialist-copyrights find it funny. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Angry/3.gif) [/DIV][/DIV]
Oh er... was there something I missed? An affair? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)
hehehe I'm kidding of course.
If it's your goal to post beautiful pics....that's the quickest way to ruin them.
I agree PC.
Oh, that's called a "watermark"? I didn't know that. Yeah, I see that all the time on celebrity web-sites. Doesn't stop me from saving pictures though, but I can't make like a picture to hang on the wall, ya know, and is that what you're trying to prevent, people being able to save your pictures, enlarge them, and make them into pictures to hang on the wall instead of buying them from you? Then for sure that would help you out.
I've been to some sites where they won't allow you to download the images at all. I'm sure there's a tricky command for that.
instead of buying them from you
Well actually, instead of buying them from anybody who try to make a living. I don't try to sell anything, but definitly would love to have a website as a hobby and as a tool to show my pics to the familly, friends and colleagues that I recently left back East since I can no longer show enlargements face to face). Also the website could be used as a platform to get contacts with others globetrotters and amateur photographers, archeology and history buffs, or just wildlife lovers (no I wont post hotties pics, the net has enough already lol) for exchanging info about travels in remote places.
I've been to some sites where they won't allow you to download the images at all. I'm sure there's a tricky command for that.
Yeh Lise understand what I'm talking about. That's what I dreamed of : being able to post an amazing pic with good resolution without allowing anybody to use it for any commercial purpose.[/DIV]
As Tehborken said, there's no way to stop users from getting your images. There's a jvascript that disables the "right click/save image as" command, but that's useless when all you have to is hit the print screen key to copy the image to the clipboard and paste it into an image editor. I think the best way is to scale down the images and set water marks to them. That can easily be done in Photoshop by creating an Action.
Michel wrote:
Well actually, instead of buying them from anybody who try to make a living. I don't try to sell anything, but definitly would love to have a website as a hobby and as a tool to show my pics to the familly, friends and colleagues that I recently left back East since I can no longer show enlargements face to face). Also the website could be used as a platform to get contacts with others globetrotters and amateur photographers, archeology and history buffs, or just wildlife lovers (no I wont post hotties pics, the net has enough already lol) for exchanging info about travels in remote places.
Hmm, if you are not wanting to sell your pictures or whatever and if it is just for your familly, friends and colleagues maybe what you can do is give the URL of your web-site only to them and put a robot.txt file in all your web-site folders (usually in the public_html folder) it cannot be searched by Google, Yahoo, etc.
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As Tehborken said, there's no way to stop users from getting your images. There's a jvascript that disables the "right click/save image as" command, but that's useless when all you have to is hit the print screen key to copy the image to the clipboard and paste it into an image editor.
Yeah, not sure however if you can do that if you need to keep the mouse pointer on the thumbnail to make the image appear in large format. As I said to the borken, I'll try to copy next time I found a website protected in this way.
...and if it is just for your familly, friends and colleagues maybe what you can do is give the URL of your web-site only to them and put a robot.txt file in all your web-site folders (usually in the public_html folder) it cannot be searched by Google, Yahoo, etc.
My contacts can already be reached by email, so it's not really a problem, although it could be fastidious and worse, ephemeral. And I would like the website to be searchable by google and others to get more contacts from the web community.
Lise wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone knows anything about watermarks using Photoshop? How does one do it?
Here's a good tutorial on it:
[a href="vny!://www.all-things-photography.com/add-a-watermark.html"]vny!://www.all-things-photography.com/add-a-watermark.html[/a]
Michel wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]Yeh Lise understand what I'm talking about. That's what I dreamed of : being able to post an amazing pic with good resolution without allowing anybody to use it for any commercial purpose.[/div]
It's impossible.
*sigh*
Oh well as long as MR everybody doesn't know how to go further then the right click mouse...
Still I'm curious, I'll really try the print screen trick next time I find a protected website.
Hey thanks for the tutorial link, will be useful.
Oh my god you guys are right, that was even more easy than I thought. Just had to copy the adress on the image, and it works despite the message when I tried to copy with right click mouse. I was able also to paste in Photoshop. The quality of the pic is not very good but I think it's because the resolution of the original posted is bad too. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/10.gif)
(edited by TB)
No offense Michel, but this is likely to cause trouble. I edited your post to remove the picture.
I mean, really- bragging about stealing an image is one thing, but bragging about it, and posting it here by linking it from the original site with the copyright clearly visible in the image is pushing the limit of what the author is going to be okay with, don't you think? (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)
Yeah I thought about that only after I posted it. Thanks for editing. Actually the entire thread unfortunately give tricks to newbies like me how to copy copyright stuff. Kind of counterproductive in a way since it was not my intention.
I have cut and paste all the useful nformations for futher research, you can delete the entire thread if you want, it's ok with me.
A Flash gallery would be a solution, but then again anyone could screen cap your images.
Nice words you have to type into the anti-spam field. Barfed, Tranny.... lol
A Flash gallery would be a solution, but then again anyone could screen cap your images
Interesting, that was (and still will probably stay) my initial plan. As long as it is a deterrent to newbies. After all, this is not Fort Knox we're talking about. lol
Munra, do you know any shareware or program that allow to do that ?
Yeah the choice of words by the bot is quite strange, I think he "recognized" me lol