What is up with that?
dunno prolly the same person smiting the angel and others
but heres a blessing
Thanks Orik, I only had 3 smites last week, someone has been going to town...how rude. I thought DS was a nice place...bless you back.
why thank you
IT Started here. Just a hunch, mind.
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Love me or hate me, that is the question.
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[BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: rgb(160,64,255)"][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: rgb(160,64,255)"]mr kitty -- i was explaining to Raging Poodle what happened, when lise and pc got all rabid.[/SPAN][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: rgb(160,64,255)"][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: rgb(160,64,255)"][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: rgb(160,64,255)"]i didn't accuse any one. i was simply asking questions! no one is allowed to question anything, what is up with that, hmm? :)[/SPAN]
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I have never been on the receiving end of any hostility on this site, until now. Talk about spiteful, woah. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/5.gif)
I know what you mean GreyCat. Whenever there is talk about DV and especially about "moderating," smites manifest. I didn't have to open my mouth and I get smites. It could be that I was once a mod on teh stupid freaking DV!
But, bless yer to counteract all those smites.
Thanks Purelife, bless back. I dont deserve the smites...geez.
And see, what I just wrote just now earned me another smite just a few seconds ago. :P
Thanks greycat. :)
I don't really care anymore...it's more for curiosity of when I get them. It's pretty interesting.
I used to take the smites personally. But now I don't care because its pointless, doesn't mean anything.
I know, its ridiculous. I noticed that someone on here also had a ton of smites, then a few days later, they were all gone...how does that happen? No, I wont take it personally then, whatever. I am just disappointed because I thought DS wasnt anything like DV...too bad. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/7.gif)
ask the mods to reset your smites. Sombody is obviously targeting you.
I sent a note...feels kind of childish...but so is the ridiculous smiting. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/20.gif)
Yet another blessing to counteract the entirely undeserved smiting.
more blessings for you grey and i see the boss has reset ur smite count
i to would like the smiters to be revieled...
are my postings that upsetting that i need to be smited for voicing a oppinion ...
mind i can be a tad morose and a we bit morbid at times...
sleep off to get some
ciao
I am just disappointed because I thought DS wasnt anything like DV...too bad Not to be a fly in the ointment, but I find this kind of sentiment troubling.
But I won't beat a dead horse.
Speaking of horses, cowboy up ;)
I agree thats too bad.. Ive been blessing you as well.
<cranes neck> see a cowboy Tenk?
I would be concerned if I wasn't sure where my smites were coming from.....but as it is, it's not much of a mystery. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c028.gif" border=0]
No, Russ, no cowboys on DS :)
Orik wrote:
i to would like the smiters to be revieled...
"Reviled" or "revealed"? If you mean "[a href="vny!://www.thefreedictionary.com/revile"]revile[/a]", be my guest. If you mean "[a href="vny!://www.thefreedictionary.com/revealed"]revealed[/a]", forget it.
Look, we're just not going to start pulling up and making public the contents of the server or message board logs anytime someone wants to know something like this. Not only would it be a huge waste of time and a massive amount of work for me, but it would also be a privacy breach that I wouldn't permit. I would ask everyone to please stop asking (or "suggesting" or "voting") for this sort of thing. It's just not going to happen.
my wish....more coffee!
Speaking of coffee, my office mate's girlfriend works at Whole Foods and every night there is a selection of stuffs that the employees can buy for 25 cents. It's stuff that for whatever reason they want to get off the shelves. On Friday she brought back a pound of primo kona coffee. For a quarter.
I think I want to work for Whole Foods.
Lucky to have her working with you tenk. :) It's always sweet to get perks as an employee. (such as Whole Foods). I think that Starbucks employees get a pound of coffee every week. I applied but didn't get the job. :( Dunno why. :(
LOL...interestingly enough...there is so much bickering in my work place about who DIDN'T make coffee that I have resorted to instant coffee...talk about extreme measures! I covet my starbucks gift card from christmas time. I keep starbucks as a treat.
TehBorken wrote:
Look, we're just not going to start pulling up and making public the contents of the server or message board logs anytime someone wants to know something like this. Not only would it be a [SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]huge[/SPAN] waste of time and a massive amount of work for me, but it would also be a privacy breach that I wouldn't permit. I would ask everyone to please stop asking (or "suggesting" or "voting") for this sort of thing. It's just not going to happen.
Just wondering, would you be able to provide coffee for us, maybe beer after lunch...ad could you do my taxes too, and babysit this Saturday night? thanks.
LOL...I will babysit! Taxes...nope...sorry...coffee is in the cupboard and beer is in the fridge!
scratches head not exactly sure what happend this posted blank ...
i blame lack of sleep
blessings to all
[span class="hw"]re·vile[/span] [span class="pron" onmouseover="return m_over('Click for pronunciation key')" onmouseout="m_out()" onclick="pron_key()"][/span][div class="pseg"]v. re·viled, re·vil·ing, re·viles [/div][div class="pseg"]
[div class="ds-single"] To assail with abusive language; vituperate. See Synonyms at [a href="vny!://www.thefreedictionary.com/scold"]scold[/a].[/div][/div][div class="pseg"]
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You can say that again, brother.
OMG ORIK! Hi (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/11.gif)
A man with few words..I like..I like. :)
[a href="vny!://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk788KZCA" target="_blank"][img alt="Female Coffee Drinker" src="vny!://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_4_103.gif[/img][/a]must....have....more....coffee........
next sunday starbucks on second come and join me for a coffee my treat pitbull ...
morning purelife kotc
im not a man of few words
my poste just didnt work for some odd reason ... (//forums/richedit/smileys/8.gif)
ahha (//forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif) i know why its cause i prolly forgot to post something in it..
LOL orik...that would be a long hike for me to reach that starbucks! Thanks for the invite though!
Orik, how do you like your coffee??
The same way you like your women?
black strong and hot
full of cream?
ROFL *gag*
LMAO!
if i liked my coffee the way i liked my women
it would need to be a asain coffee... i have a fetish for long haired Asian lady's tenk ... yes i am just another Vancouver white man with yellow fever
gads thats such a terrible term ... i hate that
i think id rather have a case of the Asian hots...
You and 1,000,000 males in this city.
Sheesh.
No wonder there are so many angry asian men in Canada!! :)
Who was that idiot on DV that kept saying "ASIAN WOMEN WHO DATE WHITE MEN SHOULD BE SPIT ON AND HUMILIATED!"?
Ssssh. Stop spreading my secret around.
Sorry!!
But you spitting on asian girls is too hawt to keep a secret!!!!
Well, stop standing in the way of my spit!!! Grrr!
I don't know but I can guess. Don't take it to heart, Grey Cat but you are not the only one who receives random smites.
1) Angel
2) Raging Poodle
3) Adam Fulford
Random implies unjust does it not?
Nope. Just itchy fingers better suited for fingering elsewhere.
great now my smite total went up.
If one member's score is adjusted, why isn't others'?
At least in her case someone took the time to demonstrate to her, by quoting her past trollish messages, why people were smiting her.
However that's an exception. In most cases people are totally clueless as to why someone is smiting or blessing them.
Can't remember when but last I saw Gray Cat's smite score was somewhere in the mid 30s range. I don't know if her words deserved 30 plus smites but, why isn't other member's smite scores being reduced by 30some points?
The software used on this board may not be designed to function this way but what I'd like to see is, if an admin adjusts either their own or a member's score, EVERYONE's score should be affected in the same way: ie. give yourself 10 blesses, everyone gets 10 blesses. Automatically.
Otherwise manually adjusting either one's own or another member's score without its' being reflected on other's score, appears like a form of powertripping.
I think the answer to that is.....if a persons high smite total is a result of smiting from across the board, it may be considered that it is earned. It's different than someones smite total getting beat up from one person where it may be considered a vendetta.
.......and we can not bless ourselves.
Hehe, it's such a mystery!
I lay awake at night wondering who gave Adam all those smites!
(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/3.gif)
P.C. wrote:
I think the answer to that is.....if a persons high smite total is a result of smiting from across the board, it may be considered that it is earned. It's different than someones smite total getting beat up from one person where it may be considered a vendetta.
And who can prove that whether it's a vendetta, or coming from multiple fake accounts operating through proxies?
I know people who've deleted their account and left DS just because of that stupid score. They felt that inherently the system was being unfair to them.
That's why I'm advocating the "equivalent of no intervention" policy. From day one, either no one gets to fiddle with those scores, including the admins, or whenever an adjustment is made it gets reflected across the board.
And I know someone who maintained a -2 smite for a year, until last week. Go figure.
Only the magic 8 Ball knows for sure.
This is more for the software developer so I'm just using this thread to articulate my thoughts: Another useful approach to this "smite dilemna" could be to give the members the option to choose whether they want to be voted or not.
Then the smite/bless system can be turned on or off by the webmaster, but it would be up to individual members to opt in or out of it, much like they can choose if they want to view other members' pictures, usernotes, etc.
Raging Poodle! wrote: [span style="font-weight: normal;"]I know people who've deleted their account and left DS just because of that stupid score. [/span]
[span style="font-weight: normal;"]Tell TehAngel that that's what happens when you act like an ass- [/span][span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;"]people smite you. [/span][span style="font-weight: normal;"]That's how Karma works. I reduced her karma once and it went back up. Shouldn't that tell her something?[/span][span style="font-weight: normal;"][/span]
They felt that inherently the system was being unfair to them.
Or they just weren't used to dealing with the consequences of their actions.
That's why I'm advocating the "equivalent of no intervention" policy. From day one, either no one gets to fiddle with those scores, including the admins, or whenever an adjustment is made it gets reflected across the board.
Raging Poodle, you keep confusing this place with some sort of Democracy. It's not, never has been, and never will be. That said, the fact is that I rarely fiddle with the karma ratings- I have better thiings to do. But, on occasion, I will adjust them. I'm not going to apologize for it and I'm also not going to seek a consensus on something like that.
Sportsdude wrote:
great now my smite total went up.
There will always be a retarded loser registered under multiple nicknames (so they won't have to wait for the whole hour) sitting by their computer all day long and smiting away at someone because the person dared uttered a word they didn't like.
That's why I'd be interested in seeing the system either abolished or reformed so it can not be abused the way it is right now.
Sometimes I'm gone for a few days or even weeks, so I'm not even writing on here, and when I come back I see that the idiot(s) have been at it, smiting away like a rat in a psychology experiment.
greycat wrote:
What is up with that?
You're upset over paltry three smites? Hell, I couldn't care less about the dozens of smites I've received (though they do seem to have brought me a lot of good luck).
Raging Poodle! wrote:
Sometimes I'm gone for a few days or even weeks, so I'm not even writing on here, and when I come back I see that the idiot(s) have been at it, smiting away like a rat in a psychology experiment.
Wear it like a badge of honor. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif) If it gets bad enough I'll make an adjustment.
Thanks for responding Bork. I didn't know if you were around today...
>I reduced her karma once and it went back up. Shouldn't that tell her [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]something[/SPAN]?
I can only speak for myself, and to me it would indicate that whomever is holding some sort of a cybergrudge (my new term [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A]) isn't over it yet so they keep smiting thinking it's going to get them somewhere.
> Or they just weren't used to dealing with the [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]consequences[/SPAN] of their [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]actions[/SPAN].
A silly +/- score is hardly a consequence of any sort in my view.
I'd say many trolls would gladly have -10,000 or whichever the maximum is, so they can keep on with their anti social behaviour.
> Raging Poodle, you keep confusing this place with some sort of Democracy. It's not, never has been, and never will be. That said, the fact is that I rarely fiddle with the karma ratings- I have better thiings to do. But, on occasion, I [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]will [/SPAN]adjust them. I'm not going to apologize for it and I'm also not going to seek a consensus on something like that.
I see no need to seek consensus or apologize for it either.
My premise is that the underlying software itself can be better designed to prevent any possible misuse of its functions.
So my comment is more of a perspective on software design. I'm thinking of passing these on to the developer team for consideration. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile.gif)[/A]
Adam_Fulford wrote:
greycat wrote:
What is up with that?
You're upset over paltry three smites? Hell, I couldn't care less about the dozens of smites I've received (though they do seem to have brought me a lot of good luck).
Greycat had over 38 smites at last count ... teh boss seems to have reset those smites...
(//forums/richedit/smileys/4.gif) adam you are speaking outa ur ass this time... perhaps read the whole thread...
and Raging Poodle you know you really are starting to sound like a pompous ass...
okay ive said my 2 cents
Orik wrote:
Greycat had over 38 smites at last count ... teh boss seems to have reset those smites...
(//forums/richedit/smileys/4.gif) adam you are speaking outa ur ass this time... perhaps read the whole thread...
and Raging Poodle you know you really are starting to sound like a pompous ass...
okay ive said my 2 cents
Ha ha! Dude, just because you can't freely troll on DV nowadays doesn't mean you should take it up over here. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A]
Raging Poodle! wrote:
Thanks for responding Bork. I didn't know if you were around today...
I wasn't around for much of the day. Lots of stuff to do here and there.
[strong style="font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;"]I can only speak for myself, and to me it would indicate that whomever is holding some sort of a cybergrudge (my new term [/b][a onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void%280%29"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/a][span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;"]) [/span][br style="font-weight: normal;"] [/p] [span style="font-weight: normal;"]TheAngel pissed a lot of people off and got hammered for it. The End. Nothing mysterious about it as near as I can tell, she just went out of her way to rub a lot of people the worngway. And surprise, surprise, she paid for it. It's not like at her school where she can just wiggle her ass and get away with bad behavior. [/span][br style="font-weight: normal;"] [/p]
A silly +/- score is hardly a consequence of any sort in my view.
Well now, wait a minute- you just said that you knew people who'd left here for that very reason....so someone must think of it as a consequence and attach some importance to it, no? Maybe not you, but clearly someone considers it significant.
I'd say many trolls would gladly have -10,000 or whichever the maximum is, so they can keep on with their anti social behaviour.
Mmmm, no...they'd be dumped long before they got there.
[strong style="font-weight: normal;"]
[/b] My premise is that the underlying software itself can be better designed to prevent any possible misuse of its functions. So my comment is more of a perspective on software design. I'm thinking of passing these on to the developer team for consideration.
All that stuff is already in there. You can selectively allow or disallow virtually every aspect of the way the board works. Yes, you can make posts non-editable. Yes, you can make karma non-repeatable, etc etc etc. All those features are already there, but feel free to suggest them to the developers again if you like.
TehBorken wrote:
Raging Poodle! wrote:
Thanks for responding Bork. I didn't know if you were around today...
I wasn't around for much of the day. Lots of stuff to do here and there.
[strong style="font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;"]I can only speak for myself, and to me it would indicate that whomever is holding some sort of a cybergrudge (my new term [/b][a onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void%280%29"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/a][span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: normal;"]) [/span][br style="font-weight: normal;"] [/p] [span style="font-weight: normal;"]TheAngel pissed a lot of people off and got hammered for it. The End. Nothing mysterious about it as near as I can tell, she just went out of her way to rub a lot of people the worngway. And surprise, surprise, she paid for it. [/span][span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"][/span][span style="color: rgb(96, 0, 191); font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"]It's not like at her school where she can just wiggle her ass and get away with bad behavior.[/span][/p]
[/b][span style="font-weight: normal;"]I take offense to this comment, Mr. Borken.
Never been one to try and use my looks to get away with anything - though I could.
I prefer instead to employ reason and logic.
Thank you, that is all.
[/span]
FallenAngel. =)
FallenA.n.g.e.l. wrote:
[span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"][/span][strong style="font-weight: bold;"][span style="font-weight: normal;"]I take offense to this comment, Mr. Borken.
What's your point?
Never been one to try and use my looks to get away with anything - though I could.
Lol, you are so full of crap. (The "[/span][/b][strong style="font-weight: bold;"][span style="font-weight: normal;"]though I could" part is what gave you away, because the only people who feel the need to add a qualifier like that are the ones who do exactly that to get away with shit.) [/span][/b]
[strong style="font-weight: bold;"][span style="font-weight: normal;"]
I prefer instead to employ reason and logic.
The same way I prefer to leap tall buildings in a single bound instead of driving to the store.
[/span][/b]
There is sure a lot of whining about the smite/blessings. It is a forum...how serious do you take it? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/2.gif)
the smite/blessings are all in fun. Maybe TehBorken should email some kleenex if your smite level gets too high?
Thanx. As you were... (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/19.gif)
Raging Poodle! wrote: [span style="font-weight: normal; font-style: italic;"]Then the smite/bless system can be turned on or off by the webmaster, but it would be up to individual members to opt in or out of it[/span][br style="font-weight: normal;"][br style="font-weight: normal;"][span style="font-weight: normal;"]Then it would be pointless [/span][span style="font-weight: normal;"]since it would completely negate the whole reason for having it in the first place. [/span][span style="font-weight: normal;"]Think about it for a moment. Why bother even having it if it's optional on a self-selected, per-user basis? It's like saying you want to opt out of getting speeding tickets. [/span]
Im fine with teh Karma/ Smite system.
seriously.
Its kinda funny to be able to 'bless' somebody.
smites have a place as well. If your smite score slowly goes up.. theres a reason for it. There also needs to be a counteract to the blesses.
Mine went up.. lol, so there must have been a reason for it right? I just took it as a hint. Whatever.. if this annoys you then you need to grow thicker skin.. this is the internet, not everyones your friend.
I agree with TB, he shouldnt have to deal with a plethora of questions. Although I myself do appreciate some of the explanations that he gives, and responses to questions. I do agree with him on one point though, this isnt a democracy here.. its his website and his rules. I dont have any problems with them or the way he applies them. If I did.. I would move on
TehBorken wrote:
Raging Poodle! wrote: [SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: italic"]Then the smite/bless system can be turned on or off by the webmaster, but it would be up to individual members to opt in or out of it[/SPAN][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]Then it would be pointless [/SPAN][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]since it would completely negate the whole reason for having it in the first place. [/SPAN][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]Think about it for a moment. Why bother even having it if it's optional on a self-selected, per-user basis? [/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]What I had in mind when I wrote that suggestion was along the lines of what I've seen on some sites where if you decide to put your picture on your profile, you can also decide whether you want it to be rated by other members. You can turn off the rating system (which in many ways is similar to the bless/smite system) if you couldn't care less about people's opinion of whether you're a 3 or a 9.[/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]> It's like saying you want to opt out of getting speeding tickets. [/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]I know you came up with that analogy at the spur of the moment, but if we were to apply it to what's happening here, it would be the equivalent of cops chasing you for the next 5-12 weeks after you get your first ticket, even if you're no longer speeding and have already paid your ticket. [/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]They chase you as soon as you get out of your house, and keep writing more and more and more tickets because of that one infraction...[/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][/SPAN]
(In Adam Fulford's case cops must've been chasing him for the whole year - if it's been that long since he registered, because as soon as he says ANYTHING, he gets smitten.)
And to me, that's absurd.
Russ wrote:
Its kinda funny to be able to 'bless' somebody.
Actually I believe due the word's religious connotation, the developers have changed that to "applause" in the latest release of the software.
> I dont have any problems with them or the way he applies them. If I did.. I would move on
Same here. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile.gif)[/A]
TehBorken wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]A silly +/- score is hardly a consequence of any sort in my view.[/SPAN]
Well now, wait a minute- you just said that you knew people who'd left here for that very reason....so someone must think of it as a consequence and attach some importance to it, no? Maybe not you, but clearly someone considers it significant. I agree. To some people it probably means something, otherwise they wouldn't have gone as far as deleting their account so as to relieve their conscience of the burden of having a negative smite score on an obscure bulletin board.
But the fact that some people are bothered by this opens up another can of worms in my view:
Whereas on DV you have one extreme where chaos reigns supreme and gross injustices are committed on a daily basis in the form of unfair deletions, IP bans, nickname bans, favorite trolls being given protection by mods, etc.
On the opposite far end of the spectrum you have DS where you end up with a bunch of people always sticking together, tiptoeing around each other, ever so afraid of voicing a dissenting opinion lest they be smitten by obsessed hamsters for the next 2-3 months.
There's got to be a middle ground somewhere.
Orik wrote:
(//forums/richedit/smileys/4.gif) adam you are speaking outa ur ass this time... perhaps read the whole thread...
How did you know about my magic donkey?
(//vny!://www.usipp.com/gatefarm/cheersforears/donkeykickya1.gif)
and Raging Poodle you know you really are starting to sound like a pompous ass...
Raging Poodle has a donkey too?
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a bunch of people always sticking together, tiptoeing around each other, ever so afraid of voicing a dissenting opinion lest they be smitten by obsessed hamsters for the next 2-3 months.
[span style="font-weight: normal;"]LOL[/span]
Raging Poodle! wrote:
There's got to be a middle ground somewhere.
I'm open to suggestions. Frankly, I think there are always going to be trade-offs, no matter what is or isn't implemented in terms of policy or options.
I'd just like to echo something that was touched on earlier.
If someone leaves DS because of their karma score and not because of what it represents, then I think someone missed the point. And in that someone's case, changing the karma options is not a very helpful solution.
tenkani wrote:
If someone leaves DS because of their karma score and not because of what it represents, then I think someone missed the point.
Yep, and to be honest, those are exactly the kind of people I'd just as soon not have here. No one generates bad karma just by breathing. They generate bad karma by pissing people off. Yes, there are exceptions and boundary cases, but most of the time it's a direct result of their behavior and/or actions. And that's why it's called "karma".
This is in response to Tenkani's post:
No I'm pretty sure that the someone who deleted their account got the point, with or without karma scores.
I'm pretty sure you're wrong, and I'll leave it at that.
Unwelcome wrote:
[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]This is in response to Tenkani's post:[/span]
No I'm pretty sure that the someone who deleted their account got the point, with or without karma scores.
That's right, Angel, apparently you did. Not getting away with stuff like you're used to is a bitch, ain't it?
I'd like to know who smote me. I ain't been bad.
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I've been smited 3 times today, oh well.
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Mr Raging Poodle wrote:[/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"][/SPAN][SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]a bunch of people always sticking together, tiptoeing around each other, ever so afraid of voicing a dissenting opinion lest they be smitten by obsessed hamsters for the next 2-3 months.[/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"][/SPAN]
tenkani wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]LOL[/SPAN]
Well, I actually have to make a point here. Yeah, it might seem like that.. but its not true. I have alot of dissentioning opinions and state them. I will say that no matter what. Notice how Ive been smited? I know of alot of comments on here that are dissenting from this 'clique' that is mentioned.
Im known to have a few too many drinks at times and put some strange stuff on here, lol. I smoke and I know alot of people REALLY dont like that. I will listen to them and their opinions.. but I will have a differing one. I live my own life regardless of what others think of me, I could have a smite score of immense proportions.. and Id still be the same.
I like that there's this smite feature. Not everyone on here is going to agree with my opinions. I'm also quite opinionated when it comes to certain topics and quite frankly, don't really care if someone wants to smite me for it anymore.
I do agree to a certain extent that people here "tip toe" with their words as to not hurt someone else. There were times when I SO MUCH wanted to fully say what I really wanted to say but then, I know that I'd hurt that person's feelings because that person is super sensitive. But, there exists "internet etiquette." But, Vancouver people are generally that way anyways, in real life. We're all nice and mushy to each other face-to-face, but when these people are not together, they talk behind your back. It happens all the time, in real life or via the internet.
it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality
TehBorken wrote:
tenkani wrote:
If someone leaves DS because of their karma score and not because of what it represents, then I think someone missed the point.
Yep, and to be honest, those are exactly the kind of people I'd just as soon not have here. No one generates bad karma just by breathing. They generate bad karma by pissing people off. Yes, there are exceptions and boundary cases, but most of the time it's a direct result of their behavior and/or actions. And that's why it's called "karma".
aw mr borken.. i've been very bad. i blame the internet!!
Female is an exception of course.
She's proof that one or two people with a lot of time on their hands can whip up a hell of a curse.
Nice to see she's still around (//forums/richedit/smileys/Love/3.gif)
If it's any consolation, your bless points are higher than smites.
Yup!
Actually, considering she doesn't post very often that's a hell of a lot of blesses!
Considering she doesnt post often, why does she have a lot of smites? Smite is a funny word... (//forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/20.gif)
I set up accounts to PM someone, then when I'm done with the PM, I delete the account. Has nothing to do with smites or karmas. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/12.gif)
greycat i don't like the cat in your avatar, it looks scary. :(
How DID you miss the great equalizer movement? I'll have to look into THIS. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c015.gif" border=0]