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Title: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 27 07 01:07
Went down 300 points in 20 seconds around 2pm et.  Went to 500 points down and finished at 400 points down.  All because of a Communist Party meeting in China.  That sent the Hong Kong and Shangai markets down and of course since the american economy is being propped up by the Chinese Yen we fell hard as well. brilliant.  
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: TehBorken on Feb 27 07 03:14
[a href="vny!://money.cnn.com/2007/02/27/markets/markets_0130/index.htm?cnn=yes"]Ouch.[/a]
[a href="vny!://money.cnn.com/2007/02/27/markets/markets_0130/index.htm?cnn=yes"]
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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Lise on Feb 27 07 03:48
Recession in the wind?
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: 49er on Feb 27 07 04:08
Sad day indeed.............I just got to learn to sell and not be so greedy for more profits
Title: I luv corrections...
Post by: Moolah! on Feb 27 07 05:56


Opportunity knocks.







'Nuff said.







(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_evil.gif)



 
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: 49er on Feb 27 07 06:06
Its mid-morning in Japan and the Nikkei is down 3.3%......doesn't look good for tomorrow
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Russ on Feb 27 07 07:03
hmm, I heard that only a few minutes ago Raging Poodle!

  Didnt the canuck stock market drop 350?
Title: Re: I luv corrections...
Post by: TehBorken on Feb 27 07 07:51
 Raging Poodle! wrote:
 Opportunity knocks.

Yes indeed. If I knew what had dropped the most, I'd buy some.
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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: kingy on Feb 27 07 08:13
yea, BUY, BUY, BUY.
Title: Re: I luv corrections...
Post by: Moolah! on Feb 27 07 08:21
TehBorken wrote:
Raging Poodle! wrote:
 Opportunity knocks.


Yes indeed. [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #dfbfff"]If I knew what had dropped the most[/FONT], I'd buy some.




[FONT color=#00007f]That's easy to find out:[/FONT]

[A href="vny!://ca.finance.yahoo.com/losers?e=to"][FONT color=#5b5b5b]vny!://ca.finance.yahoo.com/losers?e=to[/FONT][/A]

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[FONT color=#00007f]However I would not recommend you follow that strategy.[/FONT]
[FONT color=#00007f]Buy what you believe has strong fundamentals and is displaying temporary weakness. [/FONT]

 [FONT color=#00007f]Not every security that takes a dive during a correction recovers nicely later.


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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Russ on Feb 27 07 08:29
  one of the worst hit was Caterpillar stocks (the diesel engine manufacturer).. this is because they have heavily invested in china.

  I would suggest them.. they are one of the biggest and most reliable engine manufacturers in the world.
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Feb 27 07 10:56
49er wrote:
 Its mid-morning in Japan and the Nikkei is down 3.3%......doesn't look good for tomorrow[/DIV]
 [FONT color=#007f40]All other Asian markets are down at the moment, except Shanghai which is up 2.5%.[/FONT]

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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Feb 27 07 10:58
Russ wrote:
   one of the worst hit was Caterpillar stocks (the diesel engine manufacturer).. this is because they have heavily invested in china.

  I would suggest them.. they are one of the biggest and most reliable engine manufacturers in the world.[/DIV]
 [FONT color=#438059]What if the fears about the slow down in Chinese economy are justified?[/FONT]

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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 27 07 11:00
[a href="vny!://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6402915.stm"]vny!://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6402915.stm[/a]



 
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 27 07 11:02
 Raging Poodle! wrote:
 [font color="#438059"]What if the fears about the slow down in Chinese economy are justified?[/font]
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It's bound to happen a Chinese slow down. Right now what is going on in China is unsustainable.  The problem is China now basically runs the world it is the economic engine.  What will happen when the economic growth slows and stops? Global recession?

 
 
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 27 07 11:07
Stock analysts were acting very strange last night.  Edward Jones main analyst (EJ is based here) was like oh its no big deal if we see a 10% correction this week that's is very healthy. A loss of 10% in a week!!! That's is nuts and definately NOT healthy, what are these people smoking?!  
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Feb 27 07 11:09
Sportsdude wrote:
 It's bound to happen a Chinese slow down. Right now what is going on in China is unsustainable.  The problem is China now basically runs the world it is the economic engine.  What will happen when the economic growth slows and stops? Global recession?

  [FONT color=#007f40]Possibly. Unless another market (perhaps India?) takes over the lead and compensates for the diminishing Chinese demand for energy, raw materials, and consumer products.
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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Feb 27 07 11:12
Sportsdude wrote:
Stock analysts were acting very strange last night.  Edward Jones main analyst (EJ is based here) was like oh its no big deal if we see a 10% correction this week that's is very healthy. A loss of 10% in a week!!! That's is nuts and definately NOT healthy, what are these people smoking?!  
   [FONT color=#007f40]They're speaking statistically, that's why. They won't (and can't be reasonably expected to) admit that it's a correction until the markets drop by 20%. [/FONT]

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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 27 07 11:15
They acted like it if was to continue it was no big deal. lol

The world markets just can't switch like that.  The chinese for example are basically holding up the U.S. economy. It just can't switch over night.  If China is going to go down the rest of the world is going to go down with it.
 
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Feb 27 07 11:28
[FONT color=#bf00bf]Off topic, but kind of funny:[/FONT]

 [FONT color=#bf00bf]Ever since I started writing in this thread my negative karma has been rising.[/FONT]

 [FONT color=#bf00bf]I didn't even have a disagreement with anyone today... [/FONT]

[FONT color=#bf00bf] [FONT color=#bf00bf]So obviously someone doesn't like seeing me expressing my views. [/FONT]

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[FONT color=#bf00bf]Perhaps I should strive to be the new Adam Fulford?  [/FONT][A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"][FONT color=#bf00bf](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/FONT][/A]

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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 27 07 11:31
well its not me I don't smite.  
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: TheAngel on Feb 27 07 11:39
Raging Poodle! wrote:
[p style="font-style: italic;"][font color="#bf00bf"]Off topic, but kind of funny:[/font][/p] [p style="font-style: italic;"][font color="#bf00bf"]Ever since I started writing in this thread my negative karma has been rising.[/font][/p] [p style="font-style: italic;"][font color="#bf00bf"]I didn't even have a disagreement with anyone today... [/font][/p][strong style="font-style: italic;"][font color="#bf00bf"] [font color="#bf00bf"]So obviously someone doesn't like seeing me expressing my views. [/font][/p][/font][/b] [p style="font-style: italic;"][font color="#bf00bf"]Perhaps I should strive to be the new Adam Fulford?  [/font][a onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void%280%29"][font color="#bf00bf"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/font][/a][/p]
[/p][span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 127, 64);"]I have been blessing you, Raging Poodle! it wasn't me.  (//vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/liebe/g018.gif)

Can't imagine anyone would want to smite you. >:(   [/span]
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Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Russ on Feb 28 07 12:37
It wasnt me Raging Poodle, you are in my good books.. Ive stated that before.

  I think I agreed with you in this thread even. :)
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: 49er on Feb 28 07 01:24
pheeew! what a relieve.........the US market recovered slightly and didn't continue spiralling downward.  Now for the European and Asian markets to bounce back so I could stay on track with plans for early retirement
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Lise on Feb 28 07 03:00
Did anyone buy any Chinese stock when it went down?  
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: 49er on Feb 28 07 03:35
I wouldn't buy any Chinese stocks unless the company is also listed in an American Exchange.  They don't have the same kind of reporting and accounting rules as western markets.  

  I participate and take advantage of their growth by investing in mutual funds that invest in asian markets and let professional fund managers figure all these out.
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Lise on Feb 28 07 04:12
I see. Hmm. I thought people would be buying Chinese stock left and right when it went down. Shows you what I know.

  Hey 49er, what do you think about India in general? Will it become the next super power in the world of finance?
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Feb 28 07 04:40
depends.  The thing India has going for it is that its not communist.  Thing India doesn't have going for it is that its not China or Vietnam in terms of sexy places to invest.  
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: 49er on Feb 28 07 05:15
Lise wrote:
......Hey 49er, what do you think about India in general? Will it become the next super power in the world of finance? [/DIV]
 I don't have any thoughts on India.  Fortunately for me and my co-workers the company that manages our 401K (your RRSP) offers a great selection of international mutual funds.  We also have a committee that is made up of savvy investors in our company making recommendations on adding or dropping funds from this selection.  All of us who have put our money in the 4 international funds that are offered have done extremely well in the past 4 years.

  By the way, looking at the major holdings lists of these funds, I don't see any Indian companies on the lists.

  Just from the top of my head India, even though not communist, have the caste system which could get in the way of it becoming a major finance superpower.
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: CK on Feb 28 07 05:59
If we just lived in the forest off of nuts and berries, we wouldn't care!

ah, now back to my stereo...
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: 49er on Feb 28 07 06:45
CK wrote:
If we just lived in the forest off of nuts and berries, we wouldn't care!

ah, now back to my stereo...[/DIV]
 aarh...but I want to live in the forest in a big tree house and have nuts and berries all year long  
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Mar 01 07 12:49
[a href="vny!://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6406803.stm"]vny!://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6406803.stm[/a]


Markets all over the world fall again due to China.
 
Title: This ain't nothing'... Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Mar 01 07 04:03
The best is yet to come...

  Just wait. And it'll be soon. [A onclick="addImg('icon/509.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/509.gif)[/A]      
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Russ on Mar 01 07 04:47
lol, Raging Poodle, well they are reporting that this is the calm before the storm.
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Mar 02 07 11:59
Lise wrote:
 I see. Hmm. I thought people would be buying Chinese stock left and right when it went down. Shows you what I know.

  Hey 49er, what do you think about India in general? Will it become the next super power in the world of finance?

  [FONT color=#0060bf]I don't know how much time you like to spend reading articles such as these, but here's one man's opinion on what you're asking:[/FONT]

  [A href="vny!://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/WillIndiasMarketBlowUpNext.aspx"]vny!://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/WillIndiasMarketBlowUpNext.aspx[/A]
   
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Mar 07 07 09:59
Russ wrote:
   one of the worst hit was Caterpillar stocks (the diesel engine manufacturer).. this is because they have heavily invested in china.

  I would suggest them.. they are one of the biggest and most reliable engine manufacturers in the world.[/DIV]
 CAT just made an appearance on StockScouter's Top-10 picks list. Maybe you're on the right track. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_cool.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_cool.gif)[/A]

  Analyst consensus seems to be Hold.

   
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Russ on Mar 07 07 10:11
Yeah, most heavy industries like mining, power generation, large engine driven pumps, engines on vessels, etc etc.. have CAT engines. Theres three major engines  used in these industries, Caterpillar, Cummins, and Detroit Deisels(or larger versions are called EMD's(ElectroMotive Division) owned by General Motors). The two major ones are Detroit Diesels and Caterpillar. caterpillar sells their engines through dealers like Finning here in BC and Alberta.. big in mining, and industry like earthmovers.. building the sea to sky for example.
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Moolah! on Mar 07 07 10:26
(//%20%20%20%20%5Bb%5DShould've%20bought%20in%20'03%20for%20under%20$20,%20and%20sold%20in%20mid%20'06%20at%20$80%20to%20quadruple%20your%20capital.%20%5BA%20onclick=%22addImg('icon/icon_smile_cool.gif')%22%20href=%22jvascript:void(0)%22%5D%5Bimg%5Dvny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_cool.gif)[/A][/b]





Here's an interesting analysis if you like reading these sorts of things:

[A href="vny!://seekingalpha.com/article/27549"]vny!://seekingalpha.com/article/27549[/A]

   
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Sportsdude on Mar 14 07 10:40
market went below 12,000 today.

this is a couple month long chart of the Dow:

[img]vny!://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/3m/_/_dji"]
 
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: Lise on Mar 14 07 03:02
Teh suck. Hope you guys sold quite a bit. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/2.gif)
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on Mar 14 07 05:06
SOME VERY NERVOUS INVESTORS OUT THERE. GOOD . I ALWAYS LIKE A BARGAIN.GOT ALL MY EGGS IN ONE BASKET.  ZFX ZINIFEX. THEY ARE PAYING 8% YIELD GUARANTEED AND WITH WORLD SHORTAGES OF ZINC AND LEAD THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH THE ROOF..........HAPPY DAYS. IS AN AUSSIE STOCK.
Title: Asset diversification is a big myth... ;) Re: Stock market crashed
Post by: Moolah! on Mar 14 07 05:25
GORDY GAMBINO wrote:
 SOME VERY NERVOUS INVESTORS OUT THERE. GOOD . I ALWAYS LIKE A BARGAIN.GOT [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #bfffff"]ALL MY EGGS IN ONE BASKET.[/FONT]  ZFX ZINIFEX. THEY ARE PAYING 8% YIELD GUARANTEED AND WITH WORLD SHORTAGES OF ZINC AND LEAD THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH THE ROOF..........HAPPY DAYS. IS AN AUSSIE STOCK.[/DIV]
 Excellent strategy. People should bet the farm on one equity. Because it can only go up, right? You'll get to places fast. Thumbs up.
Title: Re: Stock market crashed lost 400 points on the day
Post by: GORDY GAMBINO on Mar 15 07 03:37
THANKS CHAMP