I am going to tell my boss that my in laws have got into a very bad car accident and I have to go to calgary for the next week or so, I will tell him that they have a young daughter that I have to take care of in case they dont make it, and they pass away, I have to take care of everything, I know that he is a nice guy and he will understand, but can I get fired for doing this, I been working here for 6 months, can he say no you cant go if you do you will be fired?
If he finds out, you certainly will. You never know when a lie will jump up and smack you in the face. Smeone could make an idle comment in his hearing, and out you go with a black mark on your resume. Is it worth losing a job over?
[P class=MarginalNote]I am assuming you live in BC.
[P class=MarginalNote]From the BC EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ACT:
[H4 class=MarginalNote]Family responsibility leave[/H4][P class=IndentLevel1]52 An employee is entitled to up to 5 days of unpaid leave during each employment year to meet responsibilities related to
[P class=IndentLevel2](a) the care, health or education of a child in the employee's care, or
[P class=IndentLevel2](b) the care or health of any other member of the employee's immediate family.
[P class=IndentLevel1]"immediate family" means
[P class=IndentLevel2](a) the spouse, child, parent, guardian, sibling, grandchild or grandparent of an employee, and
[P class=IndentLevel2](b) any person who lives with an employee as a member of the employee's family;
[P class=IndentLevel2]I would suggest you give Employment Standards a ring at 1 800 663-3316 (toll-free in British Columbia) as ask them if this provision would extend to your in-laws. If it does, you can't be fired for taking the time off.
Oh, I read the original post as being the real scenario, not just some excuse to get out of working. Did this really happen?
he wont find out because he just wont, and plus it is worth it, I trying out another job that is supposed to pay huge commisions, but I want to try the new job out for a couple of weeks because if it sucks and is not what its made to be then I will still have my good job. So my ? was can I get fired for asking and taking the time off? obiviuosly if he finds out im gone!
Sorry, I don't believe you should tell your employer that someone might die to get a week off. You will get busted.
how wili i get busted
mick wrote:
how wili i get busted
Does it really matter?
BTW, the answer to your original question (can I get fired for this) is "absolutely".
Tell him you need 2 weeks leave of absence, for personal reasons, but at only 6 months into a job your boss is entitled to say no.
are you sure he can say no, i dont think he will say no anyway he is nice and the company is decent and everyone does this, but if you can give me some proof that he can say no, then i will have to re think my strategies.
mick wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]are you sure he can say no, i dont think he will say no anyway he is nice and the company is decent and everyone does this, but if you can give me some proof that he can say no, then i will have to re think my strategies.[/div]
Remind me never to hire you. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)
i would never work for your stupid ass any way, yank!
How interesting! He's a cheat and he's nasty.............why wouldn't you want to hire him, TehBorken????
mick wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]i would never work for your stupid ass any way, yank![/div]Wrong-o. You're working for me right now, you just don't realize it. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/1.gif)
kitten wrote:
How interesting! He's a cheat and he's nasty.............why wouldn't you want to hire him, TehBorken????
Yes, clearly the ideal employee. Lies and cheats, and then gets huffy when people don't cheer him on. It would be worth hiring him just to fire him, lol.
Why the f*ck am i a cheat and nasty you f*ckin shitbox computer head![/DIV]Just cause I want to become rich, the job I am in right now, I know how hard it is to make 100k, if I have a chance to get double that GUARANTEED whats wrong with that, and either way I still going to do business with the company I am with right now as a Independant Contractor, so I will get a higher commission with no base pay, but if this other company is bullshit, then I don't want to f*ck my self or my family over by making just commission with products that are a hard sell when you have not built up your client base for a couple of years, you dumb shitbox computer zombie, male.
Let me get this straight. Your going to tell your boss that your inlaws were in an accident and might die just because you want a couple days off. And I'm right in assuming there was no accident? And then you think you will work with this company again? [/DIV]Are you phucking serious. Do you know what will happen if your present employer finds out. You burn enough bridges and they will eventually fall down. You sound like your pretty young. Word travels faster than you could ever iagine, especially in certain industries.[/DIV]Not even to mention karma, you say shit like that, then start ducking your head..
I think this is the same guy who a few days ago was asking for advice here about moving onto a new job that pays $250K in commission the first year
okay Mick, he technically doesn't have to give you the time off if it is not your immediate family. The lie itself doesn't make a lot of sense because if these people are your in-laws, meaning they have a child old enough to be married, so why would they have a small child that needs looking after and by you nonetheless? The age gap didn't make sense to me although I do understand that people have kids later in life just usually not that much later in life. Secondly, if you mention it to anyone at work, consider your ass grass. Also, if you work for a friendly company, it is bound to come out that you are really single or your partner's parents come to visit. It's a very involved lie.
At the end of the day, you can be fired for just about anything. There are very few protections offered to you by employment legislation.
mick wrote:
Why the f*ck am i a cheat and nasty you f*ckin shitbox computer head!
Remember, Grasshopper- "Profanity is the last refuge of the inarticulate motherf*cker."
[/div][div style="font-style: italic;"]Just cause I want to become rich, the job I am in right now, I know how hard it is to make 100k, if I have a chance to get double that GUARANTEED whats wrong with that, and either way I still going to do business with the company I am with right now as a Independant Contractor, so I will get a higher commission with no base pay, but if this other company is bullshit, then I don't want to f*ck my self or my family over by making just commission with products that are a hard sell when you have not built up your client base for a couple of years, you dumb shitbox computer zombie, male.
I'd reply to this, but I don't speak "Illiterate Retard" very well.
Cheers
Oh my god. Somebody, shoot me!
you dumb shitbox computer zombie, male.[/DIV]
[/DIV]Classy :P
mick wrote:
you dumb shitbox computer zombie, male.[/DIV]
OMG, MALE!!!! I've been transgendered and I can't see the difference! Can you see the difference? *remember that commercial?*
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dont people ask for vacation/holidays anymore??
Yikes....I wouldn't just fire you, I'd call ahead to your next employer too. There's just something schmarmy about using dead relatives (that aren't really dead) as part of your plot.
I'm with kingy....simply just ask for the time off. I'd rather say nothing, then claim my relatives died.
mick wrote:
[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] I will get a higher commission[/span]
The... mm, shall we say, "ethically-challenged" are ideally suited to commission sales. Slam dunk!
Go for it, Champ! Lie yer ass off, as long as it's to get something you want. It's clever! I mean, really... integrity is so five-minutes-ago.
Why do people ask others to validate the crappy choices they're going to make anyway? If Mick chooses NOT to lie to his "nice" boss, it will be because he's afraid of getting caught, not because he decides that it's wrong. Why the whole sham of having a conscience?
f*ck you you faggot prime factor lick my ass
So everyone on this board has stated clearly and eloquently the many reasons why what you are doing is wrong, and all you can respond with is profanity? Why is that?
Grow some stones. Just face your boss like a man and tell him you've found a better opportunity. And if the other job doesn't work out, fuggit. Get another job.
I think it's pretty obvious that it doesn't matter which job this kid decides to pursue, or whether or not he lies to anyone -- He is unlikely to do well at either of them. People who lack self-awareness to this degree usually blame others for their failings, cannot grow or improve, and lurch from one situation to the next with no reflection on how their own choices may have caused their dissatisfaction.
But surely someone as witty and articulate as Mick will be making that $225k in commissions any time now.
Let us know when that happens, okay, Slugger?
Did you not see that Seinfeld episode where Elaine lied to her boss and was caught at the baseball game via a picture in the newspaper? Do you want to risk your job, and besides six months on the job does not entitle you to a week's vacation. Think again kiddo.
In the words of The Donald...(//vny!://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4830/trump1qa.gif)
I think mick didn't REALLY want an anwer to his question. I think he just wanted to talk about his 225K job again. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/muede/c015.gif" border=0]
True. And with his language I can't see him being offered any job in sales.
Funny, on the one hand he says "if I have a chance to get double that GUARANTEED whats wrong with that", & then in the same breath goes on to say "but if this other company is bullshit". I don't fancy his chances in the real world. I'm thinking "mick" is an acronym for Mentally Incompetent Cranky Kid. Long gone anyway, so God bless him, but f*ck 'im anyway.
weird al says.....I'm thinking "mick" is an acronym for Mentally Incompetent Cranky Kid.[/DIV] [/DIV]Well done!!!! I think you've GOT IT !!!
I love that acronym. Bless you!
Sorry, weird al, I went to bless you, but discovered you weren't registered.
Thanks for that, kitten. I'm just too dam' lazy to register, it seems. One o' these fine days...
Was going to 'bless you' myself. Get on it weird al. Yer a nice fit.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a130.gif" border=0]
Jeez I did it! Wasn't that hard at all!
Well, bless your little buttons weird al.......welcome aboard....LOL
Thank ya...thank ya very much.
mick wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]f*ck you you faggot prime factor lick my ass[/div]
With that kind of insightful response, I'm surprised you aren't working for Fox "News".
Chris Mathews: Hi everyone, and welcome to Hardball, I'm your host Chris Mathews. Today we'll be talking with Mick to get his views on current world affairs.
Chris Mathews: So, Mick, what do you think about the mideast situation?
Mick: f*ck you you faggot chris mathews lick my ass
Chris Mathews: I see...what about President Bush's approval ratings?
Mick: f*ck you you faggot chris mathews lick my ass
Chris Mathews: Right-o then. Are you in favor of the Dubai Port deal?
Mick: f*ck you you faggot chris mathews lick my ass
Chris Mathews: And there you have it- hard hitting commentary by "Mick". Thank you, Mick, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show.
Mick: f*ck you you faggot chris mathews lick my ass
<commercial break, roll credits>
I woulda inserted the word "FUDGE" instead. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/19.gif)
"Can I get fired for this?"
I certainly hope so.
You're an illiterate bozo who can barely string two words together. Who in the hell is going to pay a loser like you $225K a year? Answer: NO ONE. Employers just aren't that stupid.