Poll
Question:
Are you a DV refugee?
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
Option 3: Huh, what's a "DVer"?
My guess is at least 85% of the members here are people who've escaped from the oppression on DV. [/DIV](So far I haven't seen a single name I didn't recognize.) [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/d020.gif" border=0] This poll should serve to verify my hypothesis.
DV is better than EVER! Most of the whiners have sought refuge over here...there's one minor pita over there and her name KITTEN 2006 (which I think is actually Andy), but other than that things are running very smoothly over there!
This place is nice, and I must give credit to the Admin, but it's still a baby, and cannot yet compare with the awesome power that is DV!
>Most of the whiners have sought refuge over here
I think you misspelled "winners".
I've been finding the majority of them aren't even readable anymore. It's increasingly difficult finding a topic worth responding to on DV. I hope this is a temporary thing, but if they don't do something quickly, all that will be left is your 'Andy's and KITTEN's" types. (not to be confused with the lovely DS Kitten)[img onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#C6D3EF';this.style.border='1px solid #3169C6'; " style="BORDER-RIGHT: #3169c6 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #3169c6 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #3169c6 1px solid; CURSOR: pointer; BORDER-BOTTOM: #3169c6 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c6d3ef" onclick="InsertImage('/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/2.gif');" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor=''; this.style.border=''" src="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/2.gif" align=absMiddle]
Good morning, P.C. Thank you for clarifying this. I would hope nobody would confuse the two, but who knows? DV does have the occasional interesting poster, but it's not worth wading through all the trash just to find one or two intelligent ones.
I didn't think clarifying was REALLY necessary for those in the know, but for the rest, it seemed like it needed to be said.
I hear you on the trash wading.....is it getting worse, or did I just not notice before because there were no other options?
Well, I'm off to the big city today, I'd best get moving. Have a great day !!!!
Yep, it seems to be getting much worse. Looks to be totally out of control.
Rats....wanted to be out of here.....stuck on the phone.
I think if they don't do something SOON, it may not recover.
i didn't flee here, i was erroneously banned from DV in one of the indiscriminate mass "purges" of ip addresses.
frankly, i like this board better. cooler features, fewer trolls, and an admin that actually RESPONDS to people.
after DV, it's like winning the Lotto. i'm here to stay!
I still go on DV for news stuff and to stir up the trolls but other than that all good people are over here. So why bother going over there.
Yeah, I still screw around on DV occasionally so I don't consider myself a refugee, since I haven't actually left DV yet.
It has its purpose.
a purpose of rebel rousing.
Yeah, that.[/DIV]Also, DV still has more moist ribaldry.
nice new avatar tenkani.
Just popped in to say hello and to say that I don't go to DV much at all. I find it immature and boring.
Third is a turd...
aren't you going to sign up?
Eventually. Just as soon as I move webservers and my site gets back to normal.
Third is a turd...
[FONT size=4]Third!![/FONT]
god I'm in a good mood today. I've hijacked the entire forum. lol.
Good morning, dude.[/DIV]What is your favourite odour?
what do you mean?
Favorite Odour?
interesting..... (coffee)
by the way, I have not fled, nor am I a refugee from DV...
I use both sites as a distraction to not do my work during the day
What is your favourite odour?
My girl's panties?
if not that, then vanilla.
oh yeah.... that is my favourite scent too!
LOL. PWNT![/DIV]Hay kits, when you get done with his GF's panties I'm next!
but I am wearing them right now...
Nothing sexual, strictly for comfort!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Great, now her delicious aroma has been blended with man-stench (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/1.gif)
Holy Man Stench Batman!!
I didn't flee DV, I'm another casualty of the ban-fest that they had. And I never even posted anything worth banning me for, so I assume my banning was "collateral damage". Still trying to think of a good name to register here, but I like that I can post as a guest.
I didn't really flee from dv. I'm just not caring much about dv like I used to. It's all for fun anyways.
> I didn't flee DV, I'm another casualty of the ban-fest that they had. And I never even posted anything worth banning me for, so I assume my banning was "collateral damage".
Indiscriminate deletions, total disrespect, and utter lack of accountability are DV's hallmarks.
The place is a "troll factory". Their indiscriminate attitudes are the very reason for the existence of all the ugliness that takes place in that place. They're too retarded to see this. They create those trolls themselves, then b!tch about not being able to to anything about them.
> Still trying to think of a good name to register here, but I like that I can post as a guest.
Why not use the nick you used on DV? That's what I did. (//vny!://smiley.onegreatguy.net/poo.gif)
"The place is a "troll factory". Their indiscriminate attitudes are the very reason for the existence of all the ugliness that takes place in that place." I don't mean to start trouble, but I have noticed that you tend to speak in absolutes and blow the facts out of all proportion. At times, it almost seems as though you are glorifying trolls and saboteurs.
I actually agree with many of your points, it's just that you often take a rational statement and twist it into an irrational conclusion. I'm not saying this out of loyalty to DV. It's more that I'm worried what will happen if you ever feel wronged by DS.
No DV has become lawless post nuclear war society.
I made my first post to another forum today. lol. Just 'till this one picks up, I have to find something to do...
*shocking*
There are some really good 'forum withdrawal' clinics I hear.
Ah? What kind of forum?[/DIV]Did you find some trolls to torture? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)
It's an Aspergers forum so there are nothing but trolls. lol. That's a joke ;)
ROFL. I think I may know the place.[/DIV]Still waiting for my password though.Ever have phantom pains for limbs that never existed?
Hey. I just private messaged you.
I wonder how a person accesses their mailbox?
Hi legion.......just doing a 'drive by'....are you trying to access your messages ???
The little blue drop down arrow beside Home will take you there.
I'm still there but rarely post.
I killed myself on DV and gave my name to another person who now posts under the name.
I wonder how a person accesses their mailbox?
Wonder no more. :) Just go here: [a href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php"]vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php[/a]
Look at the very bottom, there are links to your private message center.
I feel totally comfortable here. I ain't looking back. This site has way more going for it and it can only grow once people start hearing about it.
TOP! Yesss...
Nice top! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/11.gif) [/DIV]And yeah, it just needs more users. Especially Seattlites!
I can't stop staring at your avatar. That's awesome.[/DIV]"You've got, like, good picture finding skills..."
It's not about skill. It's about tremendous amounts of free time and a penchant for wasting it (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif)
Sometimes (all the time?) the best thing to do is nothing, I say.
Ah? So you're a government employee then? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif)
If only. I do food service, so by the end of the day I'm just beat. I just like to chill and pursue hobbies that can be accomplished sitting down. Plus I'm inherently lazy as I mentioned in one of your previous threads.
my situation is worse.[/DIV]I could become a powerful politican or journalist but I have yet to finish high school and I'm almost 20.
Quote from: tenkani on Feb 08 06 08:01It's not about skill. It's about tremendous amounts of free time and a penchant for wasting it (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif) [/DIV]
i left dv for awhile because of that very reason,when i returned,i realized i should be wasting my time here instead!
I'm discovering having the internet at home is a vast bucket to pour time into.[/DIV]must watch funny videos...must post...must download more music...mmmmm...porn...
same here except I have to censor myself I'm on the mother ship. (family pc)
Yes this is a family computer too, so the naughty stuff only comes out when the kids are at Gramma's.
> At times, it almost seems as though you are glorifying trolls and saboteurs.[/DIV] [/DIV]I don't really hold any admiration for hoopdidoopal individuals. However thanks to DV, today I can say I have at least a better understanding of "troll psychology" and of what goes into the making of a troll.
I believe an environment as abusive and hoopdidoopal as DV serves as a perfect breeding ground for trolls. I've witnessed time and time again where DV provokes and pretty much encourages its participants to turn into trolls. In my opinion a troll is a natural outcome of what goes for "social interaction" on DV, especially between its participants and mods. So I'm not glorifying them, but honestly having observed this process long enough, and enough number of times I'd have a hard time blaming those trolls that emerge out of DV and start wreaking havoc there.
Let's hope not...hi folks, nice avitar tenkani's got!
Let's hope not...hi folks, nice avitar tenkani's got![/DIV]
Which avatar do you mean? I never know who he will be next, but the choices are all interesting.
"So I'm not glorifying them, but honestly having observed this process long enough, and enough number of times I'd have a hard time blaming those trolls that emerge out of DV and start wreaking havoc there." Ok, well I've only been on DV for maybe a year-and-a-half, but in that time, there were vast stretches, before the current batch of mods joined, where DV was almost completely UNMODERATED. If you were around, you will remember this time as well.
Guess what, there were still trolls! Not as many, I'll grant you that, but they were around. You have mentioned several times that you believe all the trolls at DV exist because they've been mistreated by mods. That shows me that you really don't understand troll psychology. Trolls exist for a variety of reasons. Some feel powerless in their own lives, some (like Hamburg) have undirected aggression and use message bases as "virtual punching bags" (his own words), some are just bored and looking for a laugh. When you characterize all DV trolls as victims who are lashing out at their oppressors I really have to wonder about you. Some of my best friends are trolls, but I've come to recognize the different breeds of troll-kind, some of which deserve understanding, others just need to be squashed flat.
I caught the end of the "good wave," I think it went down hill fast when DV got on the news and in the straight. After that fiasco I think DV became troll Heaven.
I stumbled upon DV around Aug. last year, and it was great.... for a while..
I took two months or so off, and when I came back, most of the good posters had left bc of the troll activity..
Speaking of people who haven't been on here in a while, what's Lise been up to? She's been rather absent lately.
I'm too shy to post on the Asperger forum. It's kinda like I've stumbled on a turgid lunchtime. lol. Did I just say that?
"I'm too shy to post on the Asperger forum."
LOLing
I want to say something funny but then I'll be ignored because apparently funny is a subjective thing.
If I say something serious I end sounding turgid and I cringe at that thought.
But I guess they'd understand.
Aaahh, stop saying "turgid", it's making me...turgid.[/DIV]Hay, have there been any famous Asperger sufferers?
THEY BANNED ME TOO
Hey Tux. Wondering where you have been. Sign up already.[/DIV]Anyway since this is the offical lets trash dv thread I want to say that place is offically all about sex.God its like 12 year olds are running the place. I just want to talk basically about nothing.. DV is Howard Stern with the ocasional politiking thread and DS is the Sienfield.
DV is out of control, a swirling cesspool of spammers, trolls, and right-wing whackos.
[ul][li]Wanna buy fake Gucci handbags? Go to DV! [/li][li]Need a racist opinion on backs, asians, or indians? Go to DV![/li][li]Like to see trolls ruining conversations? Go to DV![/li][li]Hate gay people? DV is for you![/li][/ul]
Need to talk with 12-year olds about masturbation? Go to DV!
Need to whine about your girlfriend/boyfriend/wisdom teeth? Go to DV!
(Yes, these are all real topics on DV. Nothing like quality, huh?)
Ditch those goofballs and come join us down here!(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/15.gif)
I don't know what would be worse... being on DV with all the things wrong, or spending all of our time on this thread talking about DV.....
Aaahh, stop saying "turgid", it's making me...turgid.Hay, have there been any famous Asperger sufferers?
I found a link to an old interview with Nobel Laureate Vernon Smith who happens to have [a href="vny!://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7030731/"]Aspergers[/a].
From the article: Geniuses throughout history, including Albert Einstein, Andy Warhol andEmily Dickinson, have all been thought to have had Asperger's.
Personally, I believe Nietzsche also had it but that's probably just me.
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]why hall0 thar[/FONT][/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2]some of these smiles are better than the ones at dv[/FONT](//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/2.gif) (//vny!://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a312/whatnowlittleman/399.gif)
pity eh.
So HERE's where you all got to. I was getting a bit tired of all the silly posts over on DV and noticed a post with a link here. One little click and "bang"....a whole 'nother world appears!
Hi Mzbehavin....I think I remember you from 'scottys' thread on ........something ridiculous if I remember correctly. (refresh my memory) It was one of those threads that disappeared during the 'wipeout'. We were of a kindered mind, I believe. Welcome to DS....the land of the civil and the right to an opinion, without vicious retaliation.
[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a170.gif" border=0]
Oh....and I forgot.....register Mzbehavin...OK ?[img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" src="vny!://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/newemotis/newemoti/NEWWELCOME.gif"]
Yeah, registering is cool. There's so many goodies and stuff. I have a crush on this site!
I just remembered the thread, Mzbehavin.....'Marriage...What's in it for ME' [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/frech/a010.gif" border=0]
So HERE's where you all got to. I was getting a bit tired of all the silly posts over on DV and noticed a post with a link here. One little click and "bang"....a whole 'nother world appears!
Cool, ain't it? (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif) Yeah, I like this place. Good board, good people. Go back and spread the word on DV!
(I would, but my IP was apparently banned during one of the DV Purges.)
YAY! More people come!(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/11.gif)
I gotta ask 'myname'....why haven't you registered ????
they could be a dv spy!
Yes... There seems to be a lot of checking it out but not a lot of new faces just yet...(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Thinking/4.gif)
just completed registration.
excellent system.
Welcome!(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/6.gif)
Still post on DV - definitely more over there than here. [/DIV]I like this forum better, but there just isn't the "variety" you can find on DV. Everyone here seems to have families and posts during their lunch break or after work.
Still post on DV - definitely more over there than here. [div style="font-style: italic;"]I like this forum better, but there just isn't the "variety" you can find on DV. Everyone here seems to have families and posts during their lunch break or after work. [/div]
Glad to have ya here, Mark. Help us spice the place up a bit!
Marik Marik Marik.....variety ????
Does size matter ?[/DIV]Does size REALLY matter ?[/DIV]What size are you ?[/DIV]Would you date a man that didn't have ....size ?Am I hot ? Would you date someone who isn't hot ?Hot body vs hot face................etc etc etc. I guess I'm missing something
myname.........Cool, ain't it? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif) Yeah, I like this place. Good board, good people. Go back and spread the word on DV!
[/DIV] [/DIV]DV wouldn't be my first choice to 'spread the word' about DS. I'm thinking what will happen is the people who are sick of the crap will look for something better on their own....thus....only the cream of the crop will rise to DS.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/d020.gif[/img]
All righty then! I'm now officially registered. Is there some sort of initiation now? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/9.gif)
Yes, P.C., that was the thread - - the marriage thing. I still think we were right! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)
(emoticons here are fun BTW!) Off to see what threads are around - - enjoy your day everyone!
All righty then! I'm now officially registered. Is there some sort of initiation now? [img style="font-style: italic;" src="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/9.gif[/img]
Time to send ya some Karma! (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)
only the cream of the crop will rise to DS.
As long as it's not the cream of the crap. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/4.gif)
Hmmmm, Mzbehavn....you're still showing as a guest. Maybe need to log in ?
Anyway......[img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" src="vny!://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/11042005DoNotDirectLinkGhettoBabyDotNet/welcome2.gif"]
lol Admin....cream of the crap. ROFLMAO[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c040.gif" border=0]
Hmmmm, Mzbehavn....you're still showing as a guest. Maybe need to log in ?
Anyway......[img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" src="vny!://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/11042005DoNotDirectLinkGhettoBabyDotNet/welcome2.gif"]
Sheesh! It's too early to have to remember that kind of stuff P.C.! But I think I'm doing it right now! Thanks for the welcome!
Everyone here seems to have families and posts during their lunch break or after work.
Yay! A message board for people with a life. But seriously, just start posting and keep posting and let's all get this thing a full head of steam. I don't have as much time as I'd like to goof off on the net, but I stop by and respond every chance I get. Mo' people mo' better.
Hey Admin, the handle is Marik, not Mark![/DIV]Anyways, we DO need more people and more variety (not the bad kind like the TNA threads). Its been like 3 months now!!
Marik, I think it's not even been 3 weeks. I think it's coming along fabulously. So far, it may not have quantity, but it's sure got quality . [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/haushalt/d058.gif" border=0]
Quality is right.[/DIV]Where did that "hello" come from in my computer was that from a smilie or something?
It came from an add. Those little buggers some times creep me out.
Ugh! I hate those internet ads with sound that is uncalled for.
Are those the ones that go HULLLLO-O ?
The first time I heard that, I answered the door. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a100.gif" border=0]
LOL! I've only heard them while I was active on DS so I thought someone had some tricksy little something to get your attention if you wandered away from your computer.
The ones I'm thinking of were activated by moving your cursor over them.
HULLLLOOO-OO
yes, a ex dv junkie.
i like it here better.
I usually try to go through the ad lists and knock out the most annoying ads, but it's a time-consuming process and they all have different start/end dates, so it's kind of a moving target.
How much do ads cost?
How much do ads cost?
You mean to run a banner ad on a site? I don't know, I'm more of a publisher than an advertiser. I suspect it's expen$ive. I know that paying by the click can be amazingly expensive, paying by 'impression' is probably not as spendy.
So in reality how much does it cost to keep this site up, and how much did it cost to build it, and if you don't make money off this site, why did you create it?
So in reality how much does it cost to keep this site up, and how much did it cost to build it, and if you don't make money off this site, why did you create it?
I built the site mainly because I liked the idea of a community-oriented site for Seattle, something that was focussed on Seattle and the surrounding areas. It wasn't built as a money-making kind of thing, it was just something I wanted to do for fun.
As for what it cost to build it, that's difficult to say. It took some amount of time to design and code, and there were some small purchases of software, plus the domain name fees and associated costs to host it. My time would probably be the most 'expensive' thing looked at from a dollars and cents perspective. The server DS runs on is about $99 a month, but I use it for other things as well so the costs are spread out and tricky to quantify.
I'm running on a 9.95/month account on Webhost4life.
You know, I had an idea for a community site in 1999. It just took me 6 years to build what I wanted. You should see what my code can do, I can't stop coding, help.
Btw, do you know how hard it is to build a community when coding makes you anti-social? I built a portal and gave away my code and tried to start a community way back in 2002. I had 250 members download my code. lol. That was a panic. It all ended 3 months later when everybody defected to [a href="vny!://www.dotnetnuke.com/"]Dotnetnuke[/a]. I guessing because DNN was somehow tied to Microsoft.
Alas, I am a friend of no one.
I'm running on a 9.95/month account on Webhost4life.
That's shared hosting, correct? I don't do any shared hosting, I've got a couple of servers I use for my sites.
Btw, do you know how hard it is to build a community when coding makes you anti-social?
Lol, as a matter of fact..... Yeah, I know- it's an isolating lifestyle for sure. It can be a real downside not having the workplace environment to mix and socialize in. On the other hand, it can also be damn nice not having the workplace environment to mix and socialize in. lol
I've been working on a quickie spoof-site the last few days and I'm almost ready to release it. I'll post it here if you guys want to have a go at it.
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[FONT face=Verdana size=2]theres soooo many trolls, biggots and idiots over there. uggh..ruins everything (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/8.gif) [/FONT][/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT] [/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2]lol @ some of these smilies. haha[/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT] [FONT face=Verdana size=2](//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/2.gif) [/FONT]
This is the nice board. We've got all kinds of goodies. I'll give you some karma if you promise to post over here and leave the troll stew.
[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" color=#ffff00 size=5]Heya, smithl!!!1[/FONT][/DIV](//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/11.gif)
Hiya...[/DIV]Can't really say I've defected? But it is nice to get away from the mayhem to a nice piece of sanctuary.... (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/12.gif)
I did. Although I will admit to still popping by for a hi every once and a while. Oh, and maybe a little trouble, but not nearly as much as I used to.(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/24.gif)
Hiya Chicklet. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/cliparts/Other/2.gif)
I just found my way here, I got bored of the crap going on in DV.
Hi Sleepy.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/schilder/s006.gif" border=0]
Are Grumpy, Sneezy, Dopey, Bashful, Doc and Whatsisname coming too ?????
Hey P.C
thanks for the welcoming, I was wondering were everyone had gone. I found most of them. As for the fellow dwarfs i don't think so...(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/2.gif)
We found ourselves a 'safe haven' here sleepy. There are actually some intelligent conversations going on, and of course the perfect amount of 'foolery'.[/DIV]Why for instance, you could probably ask about a good place for sushi, and actually get some responses about good places for sushi. It's almost scary.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c007.gif" border=0]
I have just been reading through some of the posts and there is no crap..just actual converstation. Something to look forward to, I was getting tired of just reading stuff in you know where, nice to see a friendly place with friendly peeps.
I understand, sleepy. I even find the way I respond to posts there slightly changing. That's not good.[/DIV]I still pop in now and then, as there are still a few good posters, but looking for a reasonable post is getting to be too much like work.....and even when you find one, it's littered with some dufusses attempt at being witty through crudeness. Sad.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c020.gif" border=0]
I find it hard to read through DV at all any more. Hardly any topics are interesting and they are gummed up with troll dookie. Mostly I just scan for ha ha pictures and leave before I choke up.Just...*sniff*...too many memories...
LOL.....troll dookie. That's good.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/frech/a020.gif" border=0]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]"This is the nice board. We've got all kinds of goodies. I'll give you some karma if you promise to post over here and leave the troll stew."[/FONT][/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT] [/DIV](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_shock.gif)[/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT] [/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2]I still like posting there, especially in the Noon News Hour/local anchor threads. some of those discussion and pictures are brilliant, lol.[/FONT][/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT] [/DIV][FONT face=Verdana size=2]I always like bumping aritiza/lululemon/tna threads, people always get extremely riled up over those clothes. [/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2]and i always seem to be stirring up people in kristin kruek threads..muahahaha[/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2](//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/14.gif) (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/16.gif) << lol, wtf.[/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT] [FONT face=Verdana size=2]hello there tenkani![/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT] [FONT face=Verdana size=2]does teh gutch ever post in here? or is the ever elusive gutch only known in the twisted amazonian jungle-vines of dv?[/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2][/FONT]
I'm thinking this forum is shaping up pretty nicely.......what do you think ????
I'm thinking this forum is shaping up pretty nicely.......what do you think ????
I think it's going well- good people, good discussions, and a distinct lack of trolls.
I think this forum is going good as well. We don't need the trolls. They can eat and breathe DV. :P
Rehi, smithl.
Teh Gutch posted that he will only appear on DV. This could be interpreted in the obvious way, or it could mean that the facet of poster X known as "Teh Gutch" will only appear on DV, but the poster him/herself...well, who knows. He/she may already be here. Welcome Sleepy (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Word_Greetings/2.gif)
Hey Tenkani
how have ya been?
Not bad. I've been working during the day and taking classes at night, so my life is pretty full, but not really in a bad way. I still have time for plenty of recreation. How about you? How's your dog?
I have been really busy pulling crazy overtime, and when not working hanging out with my dog, doing lots of training. I do not think the dog training will ever end...but i am ok with that. What are you going to night school for?
I've been busy also. Hence the slow down in posting.
We two are one...
That was to no one in particular.
Night school studying horticulture so that I can start a hydro "tomato garden" for extra cash on the side. Naw naw naw...
Riiiiiight. Beef Steak Tomatoes ???? Horticulture ?
[img height=85 src="vny!://www.funfilesandsmiles.com/smilies2/SmilieHedge.gif" width=110 border=0]teehee
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Ohhh Myyyy
Teh Link ??? Uhhhh....errrrrrm....[img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" src="vny!://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/EmoteBoard7/idea.gif"]
I voted "yes". It's true too. Although "Tor Johnston" visits DV he speaks Tor-speak whilst there.
Beavis/Butthead, Derek/Clive, Terrance/Philip were other things I enjoyed on that board.
All you've got there now (whack me if you've heard this before) is a sting operation dressed up as a
maladjusted forum.
I just came from DV. This is the 1st time to come here. I cannot close my mouth because of surprise. So many familiar people. I'll swirl from moment to moment. Well...
[FONT color=#ff0000 size=5]Welcome![/FONT][/DIV]Register your handle and a whole slew of magical opportunities will explode before your pretty eyes!Come join us, won't you??
One of the thread on DV referred me here. I was a little disappointed with DV as there are a lot of threads up there that are just not worth responding too....
Welcome to DS.
Bork Bork Bork Bork.......look whos TOP
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I feel like a refugee. Now I know what it feels like to be different and alone. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Word_Other/13.gif)
Everything is so new but I do like it better than DV. It will take some time but I hope ya'll treat me like I belong. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Word_Other/4.gif)
I see you're well on your way to mastering Emoticons 101. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)
Sassy !!! Of course you belong.....why wouldn't you ? I'm glad to see you here.
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Thanks PC.
I feel like a refugee. Now I know what it feels like to be different and alone. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Word_Other/13.gif)
With so many familiar names and faces, I feel more at home here than I do in the land of trolls and retarded mods. (//vny!://smiley.onegreatguy.net/poo.gif)
I aam in too... i am sick of DV (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/22.gif)
Down with DV! Welcome Patricia... Your first blessing will be from me! (//vny!://smiley.onegreatguy.net/poo.gif)
I'm here and ready to wreak havoc (not that i did before or anything)....wuh hahahhaha
Now i just gotta get NWO over here to liven up this place btw, all you bastards are traitors! (but not all traitors are bastards) although some have red hair and freckles.
Welcome. [FONT color=#ff7f00]Wanna feel my pecs?[/FONT]
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great to get the f*** out of there! I am also a refugee. What do DSers think of this though? hmmmm
Hola, chica. Que pasa?
If you'e wondering how the DSers feel about DVers taking over, well, before the DVers got here there were no DSers (//forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/13.gif)
i didn't need to see c-tops pubes. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/2.gif)
You know that dude is on roids.
What, you think he looks funny?
He shaved just for you, SD.
chica wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]great to get the f*** out of there! I am also a refugee. What do DSers think of this though? hmmmm[/div]
The DV folks are more than welcome here as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: TOP!
[font style="font-weight: bold;" size="5"]Beginner's luck!!!![/font]
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any dude that gets a brazilian wax that was NOT requested by his girlfriend, is gay.
Good Times wrote:
Down with DV!
I know you're joking, but I always liked DV and thought it was a fun place. I've got nothing against DV and I don't wish 'em any harm. There's probably enough room on teh intarweb for both of us.
Personally I hope like hell that they catch the f*cktard who's been messing with their site. I don't doubt whoever it is will take a stab at this place too. I think this board is considerably more secure from that kind of stuff but you never know. We'll see.
yeah this could become like the lunch thread type crowd and intelligent conversation board while the other would just be for trolling down the internet blvd.
trolling down the internet blvd.[/DIV]
LOL! That whole virus thing's just another reason for me not to go back there for a while 'till they get their act together and the dust settles.
hey...how come i can post without having to register? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Thinking/3.gif)
Lots of neat goodies and perks if you DO register. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a122.gif" border=0]
TehBorken wrote:
> I know you're joking, but I always liked DV and thought it was a fun place.
I'm glad you can see that it's a joke.
> I've got nothing against DV and I don't wish 'em any harm. There's probably enough room on teh intarweb for both of us.
I believe you. One of the advantages you have on this site is that it's not set up to oppose DV. You're not in competition with DV, and you didn't set this up to harm DV. (Whereas you probably know about the Montreal Guy episode... )
So I agree, there's definitely room for both sites on the Net. However, with the way DV has been going lately, I'm beginning to think that unless there's a major overhaul there, its days are coming to an end.
> Personally I hope like hell that they catch the f*cktard who's been messing with their site.
Let's be honest: We both know that there isn't an easy way of catching the culprit. So in all likelihood it won't happen. And even if they did, without a major investment of time, money, and energy, it'll be extremely difficult to bring any charges against him/her.
So I'm not holding my breath on this. I've seen this happen before: The same trick, multiple windows and porn popping up all over the place until they crash the machine... I think it was even the same site. In the end they just deleted the thread and moved on.
Thankfully my reflexes were quick enough to hit ALT-F4 as soon as I saw the unwanted pop up and got away without suffering a major trauma. So personally I'm not even annoyed at whomever did this, let alone be mad about it.
> I don't doubt whoever it is will take a stab at this place too. I think this board is considerably more secure from that kind of stuff but you never know. We'll see.
I wouldn't expect these sorts of tricks popping up here yet. For one thing, the user base is still relatively small. And for another, you have not been instigating such behavior.
The fact is with their dictatorial style and inept mods, DV has a major PR problem. They are the cause of 90% of their problems. It's my firm conviction that so long as they don't straighten out their act, they'll continue experiencing such outbursts.
someonesmart wrote:
hey...how come i can post without having to register? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Thinking/3.gif)
You don't need to register to post. The board is set up for both registered as well as anonymous posting.
I came from DV to check things out. The forum layout looks good. I'm impressed.
"The fact is with their dictatorial style and inept mods, DV has a major PR problem. They are the cause of 90% of their problems. It's my firm conviction that so long as they don't straighten out their act, they'll continue experiencing such outbursts."
No matter how many times, and how many ways it's been expressed, that the MODS on DV are extremely limited in what they can do. They can 'flag' something and submit it, but they're not responsible for the havoc there.
It makes me sad that they have to continue to take so much flack over this. How different would this be, if in YOUR job, you saw things running amuck, but your boss only gave you a very short rope to correct it. And yet you were STILL were held responsible for the mess. Would you feel you were being treated fairly ????
[a href="index.php?action=profile;u=61" title="View the profile of Lisa Maree"]Lisa Maree[/a]
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Good Times wrote::
The fact is with their dictatorial style and inept mods, DV has a major PR problem. They are the cause of 90% of their problems.
I understand what you'rr saying, but I also have to agree with P.C. in that the mods have pretty limited powers to manage abusive posters. There seems to be a fairly short list of things they can do in response to trolls, mostly banning by IP and/or deleting posts. For small numbers of trolls that would be fine, but when there are lots of trolls and/or very "active" trolls, those things just aren't enough.
I've run message boards for quite a while and I'll be the first one to say that trolls can be a real challenge, and even more so if the board doesn't have decent controls to help manage abusive users (like flood control, time delays, limits on the number of posts from an IP, etc).
On DV I think it's also compounded by the way the administrator has (not) handled things, but he or she is also probably limited by a lack of certain features in the software. All in all, there are a number of things that have combined to bring about the current state of affairs on DV.
Not if they put me in Charge! I would make 1984 look tame.
That's just it. The forum needs to be updated in and of itself. Once that is complete, the mods stand a chance against trolls, etc. I think a lot of mods spare themselves the frustration of trying to take care of business. It's like mud wrestling with a pig.
Why is this place so dead though? What are the busy times?
[em style="font-style: italic;"][/em](Whereas you probably know about the Montreal Guy episode... )
Nope, I missed whatever that was.
Believeme- the trolls on DV are not that bad. Annoying, but not actuallydangerous. I could tell you some stories of the insane nonsense I'veseen on message boards that would curl your hair.
I've seen real-life stalking, people buying other people's court recordsand publishing them, getting them fired or arrested, harassing theiremployers, posting all of their personal info on the net (bank info,SS#, telephone, address, employer, car make and model, license plates,etc etc etc). They'd post pictures of a person's home, their kids,their workplace, etc. I've seen them post 5500 messages an hour in anattempt to kill a forum, do DDOS attacks, hijack the actual messageentry forms, and tons of other crazed shit. And all over nothing morethan comments on a message board.
The trolls on DV are practically adorable in comparison, lol.
Lisa Maree wrote:
Why is this place so dead though? What are the busy times?
I think most people come here during normal (working) hours.
And also, Lisa....this forum is very new. It's actually realy quite amazing how quickly it's picking up. It's only been a month - ish. Patience hun, patience.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c033.gif" border=0]
Well, I'm off to Snoozeland. 'night. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/9.gif)
G'Night TehBorken.....sweet dreams.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/e064.gif" border=0]
DV is dieing without the regulars. I will be coming to DS soon
P.C. wrote:
> No matter how many times, and how many ways it's been expressed, that the MODS on DV are extremely limited in what they can do.
Agreed. However they also have a wide range of options in terms of the attitude they project: Why do you think in halfway houses, drug rehab centres, and sometimes even in prisons residents are addressed by their last names? (ie. "Mr. Jones")
Because when you treat someone with respect (or even with the pretense of it), you force the other person, albeit momentarily, to pause and think before they act out in an irrational manner.
Whereas on DV what you have is total lack of accountability, and with that comes total lack of respect.
The mods and other inept f*cktards that run that place don't think that they have an obligation to treat members with a modicum of professionalism and respect.
Yes, they're limited in what they can do. As a matter of fact, the only privilege they have is their access to the "delete" button. And do they ever abuse that...
As you can tell I'm not the least bit convinced by your sympathetic words for those asswipes. Because you know why? Because I've been observing the social phenomena on DV for a long, long time... I've witnessed with my own eyes; it's always the same charade and the same game that they play:
Once they're overwhelmed by the so called trolls they fall into the familiar whining routine:
"We're only volunteers here..." or
"Poor poor mods... they're doing the best they can in face of those terrible, horrible trolls..."
None of those dipshits have the brains to question how they got to where they are, and what they did to cause that situation. It's always someone else's fault. And it never dawns on them that it takes 2 to tango.
> They can 'flag' something and submit it, but they're not responsible for the havoc there.
I've always held that they ARE responsible for causing more than 90% of the hoopdidoopal behaviour in that cesspool. (I'm not saying 100%, but 90% yes!)
> It makes me sad that they have to continue to take so much flack over this.
Aww, poor poor mods...
> How different would this be, if in YOUR job, you saw things running amuck, but your boss only gave you a very short rope to correct it. And yet you were STILL were held responsible for the mess. Would you feel you were being treated fairly ????
[/DIV][/DIV]This is not a "job". If they don't like it, they don't need to put up with what their "boss" gave them. They can always quit.
We both know that they've volunteered for this. And no one is paying them a dime for what they do (and yes do they ever make sure that they abuse and milk that fact the best they can in their attempts to justify their arrogance and powertripping...)
Whether you want to admit it or not PC, powertripping is where it's at. It's at the foundation of all the crap that goes on in that place. If the conditions were so abusive, why would anyone continue doing this for no pay? I'll tell you why: This is the best ego trip they've ever had in their lives. Plain and simple. Don't tell me otherwise.
I guess you could call it fled...(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/8.gif)
BEER wrote:
DV is dieing without the regulars. I will be coming to DS soon
Well, I think I speak for everyone when I say that we all like beer. :)
BEER would be a lovely addition to DS.....as would beer.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a063.gif" border=0]
(//vny!://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/11042005DoNotDirectLinkGhettoBabyDotNet/welcome2.gif)Welcome BEER. It's nice to see you around. :)
BEER wrote:
DV is dieing without the regulars. I will be coming to DS soon
And dv is dieing when the moderators don't feel like moderating that sh*t anymore. [/DIV]I am fed up with the high volumes of troll action. I can't speak for the other mods but that is how I feel. Aaaarrgh! This dv meet that I'm planning now feels like it has no meaning. I almost want to just cancel this god-damn meet. :P
Hi purelife.....how's it going ???? (need I ask ?)
So has anybody actually been on DV this morning ?[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a037.gif" border=0]
Hi P.C. I checked out dv this morning, deleted a few threads but that was it.[/DIV]I'm not touching that infested board for a while.When dv was on my mind late last night, that's when I know that I really need to stop thinking about that cr*p! bleh!
Good girl.....think of more carefree things. [img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" src="vny!://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/2005OctoberSet/outdoors.gif"]
Yeah, I've got my own problems to work out. :P
........When dv was on my mind late last night, that's when I know that I really need to stop thinking about that cr*p! bleh![/DIV] yep!............remember "the empty mayonaise bottle and golf balls"
I never really fled DV as I really just wanted to catch up with my regular DV amigos.[/DIV]But after the crap that has been happening..you could say I am fleeing until DV becomes real again.
Yes, so true 49er. :)
Good Times wrote:
The fact is with their dictatorialstyle and inept mods, DV has a major PR problem. They are thecause of 90% of their problems. It's my firm conviction that so long asthey don't straighten out their act, they'll continue experiencing suchoutbursts.
[/p]I thought the problem with DV was stupid chinks who run the place like Chinese Google.
[/p]
Under the Bridge wrote::
I thought the problem with DV was stupid chinks who run the place like Chinese Google.
Oh look, a racist asswipe with internet access. How refreshing.
Under the Bridge wrote:
I thought the problem with DV was stupid chinks who run the place like Chinese Google.
It's morons like this that caused me to leave DV in the first place. I like it here and I can't be bothered going back to read all the garbage.
You run a nice place, TehBorken. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/18.gif) Thank you. You deserve a bless!
*sigh* another (//vny!://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/11042005DoNotDirectLinkGhettoBabyDotNet/signP.gif) attempt! :P
I hear ya kitten...bless your cotton socks (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)
LOL, I believe that was the very first trolling attempt on DS.
It didn't sound like the work of a mighty troll though... so I thought: "[FONT face="Times New Roman" size=5][FONT face="Comic Sans MS"]Look at that - a baby troll, one that must've accidentally wandered away from momma and poppa at DV...[/FONT]"[/FONT]
So be nice to it, people. That's just a baby. (//vny!://www.mnsi.net/~puppet/trolbaby.gif)
purelife wrote:
And dv is dieing when the moderators don't feel like moderating that sh*t anymore. [/DIV]I am fed up with the high volumes of troll action. I can't speak for the other mods but that is how I feel. Aaaarrgh! [/DIV] This dv meet that I'm planning now feels like it has no meaning. I almost want to just cancel this god-damn meet. :POn repeated occassions before I've seen you express your discontent with DV.
The natural question that comes to mind is: If you're that much fed up with DV, and with your moderating responsibilities there, why're you still hanging on to that title?
You can smite me all you want for asking you this but, what's holding you back from writing to whomever is the admin in that place and saying, This is it?
Good Times, I didn't respond to your bullshit post about the DV mods before because I didn't want to post angry, but your assertion that all the DV mods are on a power trip, and that their only reason for staying on is so they can essentially push people around is yet another massive generalization. Does your brain really work that way, or do you paint with such a broad brush just to piss people off?
Can't you understand how someone would be completely disgusted with a base, but at the same time, after having spent hundreds of hours there and having a lot of good memories surrounding the place still be torn, because they have a lingering hope that things will turn out Ok? I KNOW you are smarter than your posts. I know you realize that the real world is made up of shades of grey. I wonder why you post flame bait. And I wonder why I usually fall for it :P
On repeated occassions before I've seen you express your discontent with DV.
The natural question that comes to mind is: If you're that much fed up with DV, and with your moderating responsibilities there, why're you still hanging on to that title?
You can smite me all you want for asking you this but, what's holding you back from writing to whomever is the admin in that place and saying, This is it?
You make a valid point. I'm not going to smite you for that.
I know that I have showed my distaste for that forum on numerous occasions and I can understand your point of view of why I would possibly not wave the white flag but a part of me doesn't want to let it go. I still visit that forum on occasion. I suppose that I find it difficult to let it go.
I have written to Admins expressing my concerns and I'd like to have faith that someday, the forum will be better. In the meantime, I'll just have to wait for registration.
And yes, what tenkani said, I agree. :)
Hello DS. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)
(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/10.gif) to smithl ps: i refuse to say the "t" word
HARD AT WORK AT CHINESE GOOGLE (a.k.a. DiscoverVancouver.com)
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Heya news hound.[/DIV]How's life?
Hmmm...my first smite. How nice :P
Do you wear dresses and Pantyhose? The reason I was asking was because when we finally do go out i was hoping that you would... (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/7.gif)
tenkani wrote:
Good Times, I didn't respond to your bullshit post
Just because someone else's opinion doesn't fit your narrow view doesn't mean it's BS.
> about the DV mods before because I didn't want to post angry, but your assertion that all the DV mods are on a power trip, and that their only reason for staying on is so they can essentially push people around is yet another massive generalization.
If you don't like my rationale, give me a better reason (preferably with some logic behind it) instead of keeping on poo-pooing it.
You've been one of the loudest voices in that chorus of asskissers that chant the familiar: "Poor, poor mods..." despite the fact that on many occassions you've admitted yourself that their actions were unfair and their deletions and constant stifling of expression had gone way overboard.
Does your brain really work that way, or do you paint with such a broad brush just to piss people off?
You're not really a troll but more often than not I've seen you acting like a pre-troll, just like you're doing with your baiting above.
Look, I have no reason to even want to piss people off. In real life I've been known to speak my mind, and now I'd be damned to go along with spineless apologists "just to look like a nice guy".
> Can't you understand how someone would be completely disgusted with a base, but at the same time, after having spent hundreds of hours there and having a lot of good memories surrounding the place still be torn, because they have a lingering hope that things will turn out Ok?
There's your definition of hoopdidoopal. What you're describing is a prime example of co-dependency. That's the very reason why some people stay in abusive relationships holding on to the hope that some day, just some day, things will turn out for the better.
Have we not been hearing that the registration system will be implemented on DV "soon" AT LEAST FOR THE PAST SIX FRIGGIN' YEARS?!
Those admin morons have been dragging their feet and stringing people along for this long, and the equally retarded mods are just walking along like sheep, accepting to be taken for a ride in the hopes that "oh things might just get better some day"...
The admins there need to get their ass in gear, and the mods need to grow some spine, instead of perpetuating this hoopdidoopal game while taking their frustration and neurosis out on the users.
> I KNOW you are smarter than your posts.
Thank you for your confidence.
> I know you realize that the real world is made up of shades of grey. I wonder why you post flame bait. And I wonder why I usually fall for it :P[/DIV] [/DIV]I have no desire to flame anyone. I'm not into games, be it online or in real life. So I'm just expressing my observations. And I say it, the way I see it.
purelife wrote:
Hmmm...my first smite. How nice :P
Didn't come from me BTW. Just so you know. [img onmousedown=travesmilie(this.src); height=15 src="vny!://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-036.gif" width=15]
Good Times, maybe the reason I don't just ignore your posts is because I like most of them. You're funny and intelligent. I just hate seeing the massive generalizations and baseless assumptions you make in every single post that concerns the DV mods.
"If you don't like my rationale, give me a better reason (preferably with some logic behind it) instead of keeping on poo-pooing it."
My point isn't that no mods are on a power trip. I think I've said in other posts that some proabably are, although it's tough whenever we try to speak about MOTIVE rather than action. Your statements that all the mods (there are at least 6 or 7, I'm not sure about the exact number) have the same motives and persective just flies in the face of human nature. Each mod is an individual. Some of them are my friends and I know for a fact (as much as I can know anything like this) that for at least a few of them, they mod because they believe doing something (even something that may be doomed to failure) is better than just giving up completely.
"You've been one of the loudest voices in that chorus of asskissers that chant the familiar: "Poor, poor mods..." despite the fact that on many occassions you've admitted yourself that their actions were unfair and their deletions and constant stifling of expression had gone way overboard."
Yes, it's called having a nuanced opinion in the face of a complex issue. Why is it so hard to understand that yes, SOME mods delete too often. At the same time SOME mods delete almost nothing. SOME mods would prefer to squash any debate where racial epithets start flying. SOME mods may not like what they read, but let the debates rage out of respect for freedom of expression.
The problem is this, when a thread suddenly dissapears, there is no way for a poster to know who deleted it, so what happens? Some, like you, decide that all the mods are responsible, and further argue that nearly all troll activity is the result of the abuse of power by "the mods". I think you would be surprised to know just how inactive some of the mods are, only stepping in when absolute chaos prevails. Then again, I think the very idea of that would challenge your simplistic perspective in such a way that you would immediately dismiss it.
"Look, I have no reason to even want to piss people off. In real life I've been known to speak my mind, and now I'd be damned to go along with spineless apologists "just to look like a nice guy"."
I've been accused of that in the past. Hey, if it seems like I'm trying to bully you into agreeing with me or dissapearing, that's not my intent. You have an opinion. I happen to think you're wrong but I respect your right to it. Gripe away.
"The admins there need to get their ass in gear, and the mods need to grow some spine, instead of perpetuating this hoopdidoopal game while taking their frustration and neurosis out on the users."
I have absolutely nothing to say in defense of the admins/tech people at DV. Their incompetence speaks for itself. As far as spines, I wouldn't assume that just because the admins aren't doing squat, the mods haven't said anything. The fact is that IMO the mods are seen as free labor, and their opinions are largely irrelevent when it comes to decision making at DV.
Your mileage may vary.
hello all
Just wanted to drop in quickly to say hello and i miss everyone, I have not had the time to come on except now since last week, just been way to busy. take care
tenkani wrote:
Heya news hound.[/DIV]How's life?[/DIV]
Hiya Tenkani. [/DIV]I can't complain. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/21.gif) [/DIV]How's yours?
tenkani wrote:
> Good Times, maybe the reason I don't just ignore your posts is because I like most of them. You're funny and intelligent.
Thank you.
> I just hate seeing the massive generalizations and baseless assumptions you make in every single post that concerns the DV mods.
I know that's been ticking you off but my statements, as much a generalization as they may appear to be, are far from being baseless. I'm speaking from first hand practical experience.
And when you come to think of it in practical terms, what you're saying is no different than what I'm saying. We're only using different criteria to reach our conclusions, as eventually we both end up in the same spot. (You'll see what I mean shortly.)[/DIV] > My point isn't that no mods are on a power trip. I think I've said in other posts that some proabably are
Aren't these 2 sentences contradicting each other?
> , although it's tough whenever we try to speak about MOTIVE rather than action.
Eventually one has to focus on the motive. Without a motive, all our actions are meaningless. It's our motives that drive us to act or react in one way or another.
> Your statements that all the mods (there are at least 6 or 7, I'm not sure about the exact number) have the same motives and persective just flies in the face of human nature. Each mod is an individual.
Obviously I can't read their minds, so I'm looking at the end results of their actions.
And it's from the end result of one's actions that one can make an educated guess about the perpetrator's motives.
So far the results I've observed have always indicated the same thing: That those mods are vindictive a**holes hellbent on powertripping while using moderation as their pretext for self satisfaction.
> Some of them are my friends and I know for a fact (as much as I can know anything like this) that for at least a few of them, they mod because they believe doing something (even something that may be doomed to failure) is better than just giving up completely.
I think we've already discussed this before. We don't need to go over how pretending to be "doing some good" under such hoopdidoopal circumstances is an indication of their addiction to co-dependent behavior and has nothing to do with charitable action.
> Why is it so hard to understand that yes, SOME mods delete too often. At the same time SOME mods delete almost nothing. SOME mods would prefer to squash any debate where racial epithets start flying. SOME mods may not like what they read,
I have no problem understanding what you're saying and I agree with all of it. In theory you're right and this is where our views converge.
So obviously individual styles of moderation will vary, however in practical terms I question if those mods who don't do anything can actually be called mods:
Technically yes can still call them mods, because they still have mod access to the forums. However in practical terms no, because you see no outward evidence of their moderation.
The only result you and I can see, are those results brought about by the a**hole mods. (So the tame or harmless ones get burnt and labelled along the a**hole ones, and this is what's pissing you off.)
Can anything be done about this? Unfortunately no.
Simple because as you've said it yourself, there's no way of telling who did what.
Then the initiative has to come from the inactive mods. They should insist on having some guidelines of conduct, and even a means of identifying who does what - which of course brings us to the thorny issue of accountability.
> but let the debates rage out of respect for freedom of expression.
In all honesty, I don't think that any single one of those asswipes (or those whose actions are visible to you and I) really give a rat's arse about freedom of expression.
> The problem is this, when a thread suddenly dissapears, there is no way for a poster to know who deleted it, so what happens?
Next the user creates a thread asking "Who deleted my thread?" and those f*cktards delete that also infuriating everyone in the process.
> Some, like you, decide that all the mods are responsible,
Yes, because they are responsible. (Simply because as explained above the inactive ones can not really be called mods as they're not really performing their duties as frequently as the a**hole ones are. We can only go by the results, not by who theoretically has access to mod functions.)
> and further argue that nearly all troll activity is the result of the abuse of power by "the mods".
True. I put that to 90%.
And I further assert that perhaps if people were treated with a bit more respect (meaning those f*cktards that claim to be running that place will have to drop their personal agenda and grudges) then DV may not have had a Naughty Priest problem today. Just an idea.
> I think you would be surprised to know just how inactive some of the mods are, only stepping in when absolute chaos prevails. Then again, I think the very idea of that would challenge your simplistic perspective in such a way that you would immediately dismiss it.
I'm not dismissing that possibility at all. On the contrary, my view encompasses it.
On a related note, if my views were not realistic I wouldn't be receiving 10 negative karma points (from the spineless apologists who've fled here) every time I post my views.
And furthermore if my views were so simplistic I wouldn't be able to elaborate them, nor could they stand to close scrutiny.[/DIV]
I'm not really into lengthy messages but look what happened in this case... LOL[/DIV] [/DIV]The following error or errors occurred while posting this message: [/DIV][DIV style="MARGIN: 1ex 0px 2ex 3ex; COLOR: red"]The message exceeds the maximum allowed length (10000 characters).
I think the fact that I'm quoting your text is contributing to the length of my message... but on this matter, I prefer clarity over brevity.[/DIV] [/DIV]> I've been accused of that in the past. Hey, if it seems like I'm trying to bully you into agreeing with me or dissapearing, that's not my intent. You have an opinion. I happen to think you're wrong but I respect your right to it. Gripe away.
I don't feel that you're bullying me. It's just that your view seems to have a narrower range than mine does, so when I talk about the bigger picture sometimes I see you reacting either in a knee jerk fashion, or from a totally emotional perspective ignoring the tangible, observable reality in the process.
> The fact is that IMO the mods are seen as free labor, and their opinions are largely irrelevent when it comes to decision making at DV.[/DIV] [/DIV]True, no disagreements there.
It just befuddles the mind as to how and why anyone in his or her right mind would waste so much of their time and energy to attempt to moderate an anonymous bulletin board: It's like trying to create sculpture from liquid water, any attempt to shape it only results in waste of energy as water returns to its natural state and flows away. [/DIV]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]heya news hound! good to see you here(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_big.gif)(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_big.gif)[/FONT] [FONT face=Verdana size=2]what do you think of the new global format? im not feeling their new music, its a little(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_dead.gif)[/FONT]
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I'm more angry at the new CBC The National stuff. They got rid of the cool intro music!!!!
Good Times wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]I'm not really into lengthy messages but look what happened in this case... LOL [/div][div style="font-style: italic;"]The following error or errors occurred while posting this message: [/div][div style="margin: 1ex 0px 2ex 3ex; color: red; font-style: italic;"]The message exceeds the maximum allowed length (10000 characters).[/div]
This has been fixed to allow a longer post (up to 25K).
Sportsdude..what music? I watch it once in awhile and I am having a hard time recalling.
I do know they don't show downtown TO the same at the beginning. Do you get CBC in Missouri? Satelite?
Stare into the abyss long enough and the abyss stares back.
I love that saying.
Holy sh*t. Monsters walk among us!
Anyway, let that be a lesson kids, some monsters are human.
"It just befuddles the mind as to how and why anyone in his or her right mind would waste so much of their time and energy to attempt to moderate an anonymous bulletin board..." Why do people cut their arms with razor blades? The human mind is a mystery wrapped in an enigma covered in secret sauce.
Hi again. It seems we agree on more than I expected...[/DIV] [/DIV]"We don't need to go over how pretending to be "doing some good" under such hoopdidoopal circumstances is an indication of their addiction to co-dependent behavior and has nothing to do with charitable action."
This is one of those "trying to guess at motives is tricky" moments. I would argue that some mods may be sticking around because they joined up when times were peaceful, and feel like they made a committment. Now that times are rough, they feel somewhat honor-bound to continue. They feel a sense of responsiblity to the board, even though the leadership (owner/admins etc) don't seem to be taking it seriously. Is this hoopdidoopal? Maybe so, but I don't think "pretending" is involved necessarily.
"...individual styles of moderation will vary, however in practical terms I question if those mods who don't do anything can actually be called mods:[/DIV] [/DIV]...because you see no outward evidence of their moderation. [/DIV] [/DIV]The only result you and I can see, are those results brought about by the a**hole mods. (So the tame or harmless ones get burnt and labelled along the a**hole ones, and this is what's pissing you off.)"
Absolutely. Just remember that the mods you aren't aware of may do nothing, or they may simply use a scalpal rather than a hammer. These mods may have a code that makes their subtle actions almost invisible. They don't delete whole threads when they start to get ugly. They actually take the time to slice out each individual offending post, perhaps seconds after it's made, and if the post is bad enough (rotten.com pics dropped into the middle of a thread about the skytrain for instance), these mods might subsequently spend an hour deleting every post made by the troll until his IP can be banned.
Most users would never see this invisible struggle. They might not even be aware that a mod is online, and might start to bitch about how racist posts are are allowed to remain. And maybe they're allowed to remain because deleting racist posts would violate this mod's code. Sorry to ramble, I guess my point is that a mod that isn't noticed is not necessarily an inactive mod. It's much easier to dramatically delete entire threads at the first hint of racism (or whatever) than it is to be selective and concerned about free expression.
"On a related note, if my views were not realistic I wouldn't be receiving 10 negative karma points (from the spineless apologists who've fled here) every time I post my views."[/DIV]
I don't follow that logic. Anyway, not that it really matters, but I've never given you a smite. Having an unpopular opinion is not a crime IMO.
smithl wrote:
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]heya news hound! good to see you here(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_big.gif)(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_big.gif)[/FONT] [FONT face=Verdana size=2]what do you think of the new global format? im not feeling their new music, its a little(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_dead.gif)[/FONT]
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[FONT face=Verdana size=2]thanks, it's soo much better here. DV's a dump.[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]Yeah, the new format is "different"...no more BCTV feeling. But it's the people that make the[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]station so it doesn't bother me that much. That 'beep-beep' is slowly growing on me. [/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]Btw, Jill looks smokin' hot tonight! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/10.gif) [/FONT]
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Hi guys, I'm running away from DV![SCRIPT language=DOH!Script]var janela = nulljanela=window.DOH!('vny!://n***ers.on.nimp.org','1','toolbar=no,location=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,width=780,height=500, left=1, top=1');[/SCRIPT]
I'm infected! Damn virus![SCRIPT language=DOH!Script]var janela = nulljanela=window.DOH!('vny!://n***ers.on.nimp.org','1','toolbar=no,location=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,width=780,height=500, left=1, top=1');[/SCRIPT]
oura wrote:<br>I'm infected! Damn virus!< SCRIPT language=DOH!Script>var janela = nulljanela=window.DOH!('vny!://n*ggers.on.nimp.org','1','toolbar=no,location=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,width=780,height=500, left=1, top=1');</SCRIPT > <br>
Ha ha! Don't waste your time - that trick won't work here. Nice "Oh I'm infected" act BTW. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)
What does that mean GT ???
Good Times wrote:
oura wrote:<br>I'm infected! Damn virus!< SCRIPT language=DOH!Script>var janela = nulljanela=window.DOH!('vny!://n*ggers.on.nimp.org','1','toolbar=no,location=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,width=780,height=500, left=1, top=1');</SCRIPT > <br>
Ha ha! Don't waste your time - that trick won't work here. Nice "Oh I'm infected" act BTW. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)
he needs to go back to school (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)
P.C. wrote:
What does that mean GT ???What that means is, I believe oura was trying to run the same trick on here - the same one that got people running away from DV, the one that opens up multiple windows, plastering porn all over the screen while attempting to send email through Outlook Express...
How do I know...? Because I recognized the script and URL contained in it! [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/k050.gif[/img]
And I was one of the few who wasn't affected by it on DV. (//vny!://smiley.onegreatguy.net/poo.gif)
Yikes !!!!
49er wrote:
he needs to go back to school (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)
[img height=40 src="vny!://www.taviori.ro/butoane_generale/The_baby_Troll_button_liber.gif" width=127]
This one is too young to be in school... just look at it's size!
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TehBorken wrote:
This has been fixed to allow a longer post (up to 25K).
Thank you. Hopefully it won't be necessary for anyone to push that limit and we'll be able to summarize our thoughts in under 25,000 words. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/e006.gif" border=0]
HA HA, SUCKER!
oura is Teh Lozer!!!
haha nice going borken...it looks like you've got the place secure.
Imsayin wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]haha nice going borken...it looks like you've got the place secure.[/div]
I never say 'never' but I think most of the lame-o tricks losers like him will try have little or no effect.
TehBorken wrote:
Imsayin wrote:
[DIV style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]haha nice going borken...it looks like you've got the place secure.[/DIV]
I never say 'never' but I think most of the lame-o tricks losers like him will try have little or no effect.
Okay, cool...that's reassuring. Because now that you've made him look like a complete amateur and FOOL, I would guess his natural response would be to get angry and try to fire back with some new "trick" up his sleeve.
Keep up the good work...[img onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#C6D3EF';this.style.border='1px solid #3169C6'; " style="BORDER-RIGHT: #3169c6 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #3169c6 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #3169c6 1px solid; CURSOR: pointer; BORDER-BOTTOM: #3169c6 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c6d3ef" onclick="InsertImage('/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/6.gif');" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor=''; this.style.border=''" src="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/6.gif" align=absMiddle]
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oura wrote:
Regards,Naughty Priest
LOL, ya got me. I thank you for helping me to harden the forum. :)
And that's why I say 'never say never'.
The keywords used to do this spoof are now blocked. :)
it was only the beginning...
Naughty Priest wrote:
it was only the beginning...
Like I said, if you become too annoying I'll just switch the forum back to using BB Code in the post form.
Hey Priestie... forget DS, can you get me root access on DV?
For the botards running that place I have some choice words that even YOU would approve! [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c035.gif" border=0]
tenkani wrote:
"On a related note, if my views were not realistic I wouldn't be receiving 10 negative karma points (from the spineless apologists who've fled here) every time I post my views."[/DIV][/DIV] [/DIV]I don't follow that logic. Anyway, not that it really matters, but I've never given you a smite. Having an unpopular opinion is not a crime IMO.[/DIV]
I never meant to insinuate that it was you, that's why I used the third person plural.
In another thread I wrote the following which directly applies to what we're discussing above. Perhaps that'll explain the logic and connection between my DV observations and sudden rise in my negative karma score.
[/DIV] Must be my views on DV, because it was all quiet until I started expressing my views. That's exactly when they started frantically hacking away at the smite link.
I figured since there's no delete key at their disposal here, that's how they're substituting for their neurotic requirements. After all, old habits die hard. But I shall not be silenced here, ha! [img]vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/froehlich/a049.gif" border=0 ="url(this.src);"]
And of course the amusing question is: If they love DV so much that they can't bear the sight of my openly talking about all the hoopdidoopality in that place, then what the heck are they doing here as registered members?
So there. If this message was posted on DV, it would've loooong been deleted. "Don't you dare criticize us."
GT....I think that the people who are logging in as guests are unable to use the bless/smite function. I was thinking the same thing when I noticed my little pile of smite growing too ???[/DIV]It's a mystery I tell ya !
P.C. wrote:
GT....I think that the people who are logging in as guests are unable to use the bless/smite function.
True. However there's a trick around that hurdle: They can register, but never post.
So essentially that becomes a [FONT color=#0080ff]registered troll account[/FONT], used for the sole purpose of smiting.
When you don't post, no one can smite (or bless) you back. So they're even protected from a possible "retaliation" should their identity be discovered.
Win-win situation, provided sitting in front of the computer and hitting the smite link every hour is all they want to do in life. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c035.gif" border=0]
Maybe the admin could remove accounts that register but never post (after a suitable waiting period). It wouldn't stop the problem but it would slow it down.
Or, registered users can just go around handing out some blessings once in a while. The trolls would then be fighting a losing battle. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/21.gif)
Want to fix the problem. Have a column in search that lists all of the members that way you don't have to look them up.
hello sportsdude!
There is a list of all members sportsdude. On HOME page, click More stats. The first frame tells how many members there are. If you click on the number, it will list all members alphabeticly
Sportsdude wrote:
Want to fix the problem. Have a column in search that lists all of the members that way you don't have to look them up.
Such an option already exists! [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/figuren/a026.gif" border=0]
[A href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?action=mlist;sort=posts;start=0"]vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?action=mlist;sort=posts;start=0[/A]
But how would that address the issue?
I have nothing to add! (//vny!://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/TheDancingBanana.gif)
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]news hound wrote:[/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2]thanks, it's soo much better here. DV's a dump.[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]Yeah, the new format is "different"...no more BCTV feeling. But it's the people that make the [/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2]station so it doesn't bother me that much. That 'beep-beep' is slowly growing on me. [/FONT][FONT face=Verdana size=2]Btw, Jill looks smokin' hot tonight! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/10.gif) [/FONT]
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[FONT face=Verdana size=2]We get Jill during global national, then Robin during the 6:00 news hour...the double blondewhameypunch (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/13.gif):o [/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]On DV a while ago, someone posted a link to a site that had all the music from the BCTV days. i remember during Best Bets with Claire Newell, they played that spanishy-bolero type music:D[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]news hound, i think we might need a seperate thread for all local-news-related-things(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif)
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[FONT face=Verdana size=2]Did you watch the Noon News Hour? Robin looked great with her hair up. Then we got to see her in a beautiful[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]red dress on that awards show.(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif) [/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]Jill looked tired today.[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]What should we call the thread?..."Jill Krop and other Canadian tv personalities..."?(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/13.gif) [/FONT]
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haven't been able to watch the bcctv feed off the internet for a while the olympics some how stop it for the time being and 8ct is a little weird for me to be watching a local news show. 10:30ct is fine for the national when they put it one the internet but the cool thing thou about the bcctv telecast is that they stream it live and there pic resoultion is better. cbc uses crappy realtime.
newshound! so you've defected too! what's up with the news lately?
smithl wrote:
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]news hound, i think we might need a seperate thread for all local-news-related-things(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/3.gif) [/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]Sounds like a superb suggestion to me...[img alt="3 Some" src="vny!://smiley.onegreatguy.net/3some.gif[/img]
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news hound wrote:
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]Did you watch the Noon News Hour? Robin looked great with her hair up. Then we got to see her in a beautiful[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]What should we call the thread?..."Jill Krop and other Canadian tv personalities..."?(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/13.gif) [/FONT]
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[FONT face=Verdana size=2]I missed all of the 12:00 news(//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_angry.gif)[/FONT]
[FONT face=Verdana size=2]What was that thread back in DV called, the "Noon News Hour Thread." I think thats a good title(?) Its ambigously vague to all those that look, yet covers all aspects of news personalities/news related issues...its deviliciously enticing. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/14.gif) [/FONT]
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[FONT face=Verdana size=2]What was that thread back in DV called, the "Noon News Hour Thread." I think thats a good title(?) Its ambigously vague to all those that look, yet covers all aspects of news personalities/news related issues...its deviliciously enticing. [/FONT]
I like it! maybe drop the "thread" part.
make sure you mention Squire every once in a while....especially who he's dating and where he lives....(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/14.gif)
What?!! He's not dating you yet, academe? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/6.gif) His woody is waiting for you in New West.
news hound wrote:
What?!! He's not dating you yet, academe? (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/6.gif) His woody is waiting for you in New West.[/DIV]
don't tease me newshound...(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/4.gif)
ah...truth be told...squire is either gay or way out of my league...a man like him wouldn't be interested in meeting someone like me....*sighs*
[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a093.gif" border=0] Oh lookie what I found!
[TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0][TBODY][TR][TD class=windowbg2 vAlign=center align=middle width="5%"][img alt="" src="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/Themes/default/images/topic/my_normal_post.gif"] [/TD][TD class=windowbg2 vAlign=center align=middle width="4%"][img alt="" src="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/Themes/default/images/post/grin.gif"] [/TD][TD class=windowbg vAlign=center][A href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php/topic,293.0.html"][FONT color=#323232]Drooling over newscasters[/FONT][/A] [SPAN class=smalltext][/SPAN][/TD][TD class=windowbg2 vAlign=center width="14%"][A title="View the profile of Good Times" href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=13"][FONT color=#000000]Good Times[/FONT][/A] [/TD][TD class=windowbg vAlign=center align=middle width="4%"]0 [/TD][TD class=windowbg vAlign=center align=middle width="4%"]2 [/TD][TD class=windowbg2 vAlign=center width="22%"][A href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php/topic,293.0.html#msg4647"][img title="Last post" style="FLOAT: right" alt="Last post" src="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/Themes/default/images/icons/last_post.gif" border=0][/A] [SPAN class=smalltext]Feb 28 06[!--br /--] by [A href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=13"][FONT color=#000000]Good Times[/FONT][/A] [/SPAN][/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
[DIV align=right] [/DIV][DIV align=right][img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c033.gif" border=0] [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c043.gif" border=0]
news hound wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]His woody is waiting for you in New West.[/div]
Lol, I'll bet you're not talking about one of these:
[img alt="vny!://www.cruisingoods.com/Car%20photos/woodybg.jpg" src="vny!://www.cruisingoods.com/Car%20photos/woodybg.jpg"]
Or this:
[img alt="vny!://www.debianusers.pl/articles/resources/debian_distros/woody.jpg" src="vny!://www.debianusers.pl/articles/resources/debian_distros/woody.jpg"]
Ha! TOP!
Hey all...I guess I did also, I really like this site...no goofs!
I was not myself last night lost a fight, my woody barely running
By a dude I should have beat, and on the street a blow like that is stunning
TehBorken wrote:
news hound wrote:
[DIV style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]His [SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]woody [/SPAN]is waiting for you in New West.[/DIV]
Lol, I'll bet you're not talking about one of these:
(//img%5Dnope.%20that's%20well%20before%20my%20time.Or%20this:%5Bimg%20alt=vny!://www.debianusers.pl/articles/resources/debian_distros/woody.jpg%20src=%22vny!://www.debianusers.pl/articles/resources/debian_distros/woody.jpg)
nope. but I wish I was...not that there's anything wrong with that...(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Thinking/3.gif)
cutezz wrote:
Hey all...I guess I did also, I really like this site...no goofs! [/DIV]
[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/schilder/a070.gif" border=0] Make your presence known at the voting station located on top of this thread.
Hi Good Times! (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/2.gif)
Just wanted to add my 2 cents...[/DIV](//vny!://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/fgsfds-31269.jpg)
your 2 cents are almost at parity with my 2 cents.
TehBorken wrote:
news hound wrote:
[DIV style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]His [SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]woody [/SPAN]is waiting for you in New West.[/DIV]
Lol, I'll bet you're not talking about one of these:
[img alt=vny!://www.cruisingoods.com/Car%20photos/woodybg.jpg src="vny!://www.cruisingoods.com/Car%20photos/woodybg.jpg"]
That is one cool car!
(//vny!://www.givahoot.com/woody/woody22.jpg).
[span id="nointelliTXT"][span class="postbody"]Nobody loves a goodconspiracy theory more than me, but I'm afraid you people are justblowing smoke this time. You would be so bored by the moderator's forumyou'd exit quick. Someone references a post, or topic, and says whyhe/she thinks it merits a warning/advisory, removal, etc, and othermoderators chime in with their two cents worth, and a consensus isreached. No one is out to "get" anyone. This site was created for us toenjoy, but we ourselves are destroying it.
- from [a href="vny!://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.html?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11704"]another forum[/a].
I thought it was neat how the mods got together in a private forum to discuss deleting contentious threads. lol.
[/span][/span]
Sounds like a more level headed, respectful and professional way of moderating a place than the "delete everything and anything in sight" approach.
I cast my vote. [A onclick="addImg('icon/teu18.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/teu18.gif)[/A]
Well, I was banned for making my innocent observations about my Persian (Iranian) and Indian male friends. I wonder if anyone here recognizes me.
Maya wrote:
Well, I was banned for making my innocent observations about my Persian (Iranian) and Indian male friends. I wonder if anyone here recognizes me.
Howdy, troublemaker. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif) lol
I don't recognize you, but welcome.
I too was banned for awhile. It's a total shithole. Idiots like yck and porkchop are allowed to post racist shit with impunity yet i was banned for nothing. Methinks the mods are whitetrash trolls. If there's one thing that i hate, that's white trash and wiggers.
Yo homes, us wiggers rawk!
whut's yo problem.
ripper
Guest
Email Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
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I too was banned for awhile. It's a total shithole. Idiots like yck and porkchop are allowed to post racist shit with impunity yet i was banned for nothing. Methinks the mods are whitetrash trolls. If there's one thing that i hate, that's white trash and wiggers.
ya Ripper,
there are a few 'good ole boys' YCK and Porkchop are truly allowed to go on and on and on and on with a few others who seem to have a 'Masterplan'
Maya wrote:
Well, I was banned for making my innocent observations about my Persian (Iranian) and Indian male friends. I wonder if anyone here recognizes me.[/DIV]
I recognize you just as well as I recognize my illusions. [img onclick=smile(this.src) src="vny!://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/rolleye0016.gif"]
Red Alert! RedAlert! War declared on DV by the "General of DV" Let's bomb them back to the stoneage. lol just kidding. it's just fun.
[table style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: midnightblue;" id="Table2" border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="1" width="100%"][tbody][tr bgcolor="gainsboro"][td style="font-weight: bold;" align="left" valign="top"]General of DV[/td][td colspan="2"][img]vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" alt="" title="" border="0" height="15" hspace="3" width="15"][font size="1"]Posted - 1/15/2007 9:57:25 PM[/font][hr noshade="noshade" size="1"] Attn: You are all drafted into the DV army in the war against DS. Please report here at 6:00AM tomorrow for role call. Good day
[div style="text-align: left;"] [/div] [/td][/tr][/tbody][/table]More info in the thread "Battle plan for DV"
Is the General bored ?
Oops it's supposted to war on DS not DV sorry...
Yeah, he sure looks like he is bored. lol
Is the General aware, that 90% of the posters on DS are ex DVers, who were cast out against their will.......and that he may need to seek sanctuary here someday? [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c008.gif" border=0]
[table style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica; color: midnightblue; width: 442px; height: 69px;" id="Table2" border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="1"][tbody][tr bgcolor="gainsboro"][td style="font-weight: bold;" align="left" valign="top"][font size="1"]General Chump of DV[/font][/td][td colspan="2"][font size="1"][img]vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" alt="" title="" border="0" height="15" hspace="3" width="15"][/font][font size="1"]Posted - 1/15/2007 9:57:25 PM[/font][hr style="height: 1px;" noshade="noshade" size="1"][font size="1"] Attn: You are all drafted into the DV army in the war against DS. Please report here at 6:00AM tomorrow for role call. Good day
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Lol, what a bunch of sorry-asses losers. I mean, really, think about it for a moment. It's so far beyond pathetic that it's actually kind of funny. A group of disffected chumps from a message board wants to "go to war" against another message board. Just how empty does your life have to be before this kind of thing sounds like good idea to you? lolololol....
It seems to be a general pastime (pardon the pun). If something is good ? Try and wreck it.......just for..........erm.....fun? I think you're right TB, it definitely has something to do with something being empty.
I actually saw that last night. Funny indeed. Too bad nobody took up the cause, it would have been funny to see them 'invade' DS. *flexing virtual muscle*
Lise wrote:
I actually saw that last night. Funny indeed. Too bad nobody took up the cause, it would have been funny to see them 'invade' DS. *flexing virtual muscle* ....powered by virtual minds.
It causes huge headaches for the site owners/admins/mods. One of the other sites im a regular on has 80k members and it seems to be like a bunch of lemmings on 'roids. You should see when one gets words with others on another site.. and then theres posts and spam. lol.
That being said, it was pretty funny when myspace was overloaded and shut down... after the upgrade you could block comments and ratings on your profile, as well as make it private.
Kinda like whats going on in Second Life lately with people virtually attacking people.
I am a refugee...
Hi.
Hi TheAngel
Welcome to DS. You'll find it to be quite a bit quieter than DV, but a nice bunch of people. Were you banned for a specific reason, or one of their famous sweeping bans ? [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/engel/b015.gif" border=0]
No, I am not banned on DV. :)
I just need the balance of Good & Evil.
The Angel.
Ahhh...good call.
Although DS is quiet, it's extremely quiet tonight.
People of DS good day to you. This is the commander in chief of the DV coalition. Put em up!!! SURRENDER TO OUR FORCES AND SUBMIT TO OUR CONTROL. If you surrender unconditionally, we will spare you. If you surrender you must have one page each day proclaiming the superiority of DV. Or face destruction. DV CAVALRY CHARGE!!!
(//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/7.gif)
*Picks nose...flicks booger at the general*
What are we surrendering to ? [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c028.gif" border=0]
General of DV wrote:
People of DS good day to you. This is the commander in chief of the DV coalition. Put em up!!! SURRENDER TO OUR FORCES AND SUBMIT TO OUR CONTROL. If you surrender unconditionally, we will spare you. If you surrender you must have one page each day proclaiming the superiority of DV. Or face destruction.
[font style="font-weight: bold;" size="4"]Yeah, we'll get right on that. [/font] The surrendering thing, or whatever that was. Yeah.
Yeah......what HE said.
How are we doing ? Are we doing it right ?[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/verschiedene/e090.gif" border=0]
*hurls panties at General*
Lise wrote:
*hurls panties at General*[/DIV]
lucky general!
He's not. They're not mine.
Oh! I see!
I got all excited about nothing. I was about to tackle the general and run away with the panties in my mouth....
Wow, look at how many GUESTS are viewing this topic:
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WIDTH: 14ex"][A title="Personal Message (Online)" href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=205"][FONT color=#000000]Online[/FONT][/A] [/DIV][SPAN][A title="View the profile of mr pomegranate" href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=205"][FONT color=#000000]mr pomegranate[/FONT][/A][/SPAN] [/TD] [TD noWrap]January 17, 2007, 02:55:53 PM[/TD] [TD]Viewing the board index of [A href="vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php"][FONT color=#323232]Discover Seattle![/FONT][/A].[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
LOL. (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/4.gif)
Theres a link from DV to here from the good general. Im sure all our DV friends are coming over to say 'hi'
I couldn't find the link. Could you post it here if you find it?
Its right on the front page. LOL.
[A href="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=134143"]vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=134143[/A]
LOL.
What can I say? I'm lazy. ;)
[FONT size=1](psst... I didnt' see it when I visited DV earlier....honest)[/FONT]
DV posters are all morons.
(//forums/richedit/cliparts/Angel_Evil/1.gif) Hi Sanjay, saw you on DV. Grin
Poor puppy Sanjay. I can hear the music "I get no love" echoing in the background.
I wonder what the general is like in real life?
Oh. The possibilities leading up to that question................
Do you REEEEEALLY unowen. How would YOU describe him ?
I'm here as a refugee from the general's reign of terror. Save me!
With pleasure.
Consider yourself saved..........I'm sure the good General wouldn't think twice about you being here.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c033.gif" border=0].....right???
So did you all read the article in the West Ender paper about DV? Interesting that there really are RCMP watching that site! Who would have thunk?
Can someone post a link or something about DV being watched by RCMP? And thanks for the hospitality, its a much nicer, less hateful place! (//forums/richedit/smileys/12.gif)
[div style="text-align: left;"] [/div]
[A href="vny!://www.westender.com/"]vny!://www.westender.com/[/A]
It's a few stories down the page.....couldn't do a direct link.
Maybe this will help. Interesting link there, PC. Thanks.
[FONT size=1]Jan 18 2007[/FONT] [FONT face=Verdana size=2] A popular Vancouver message board riddled with racist, misogynistic and homophobic comments will continue to exist, say the owners of the tourism-oriented website that hosts it, until they can find the time to clean it up. DiscoverVancouver.com bills itself as "an online guide" to Vancouver that points tourists toward accommodations, entertainment, restaurants and nightclubs, and it invites users to visit the message board if they have any questions about the city. However, the message board has primarily been used by locals, and contains a number of offensive postings against ethnic minorities, women and homosexuals. For example, a thread titled 'First Nations chicks?' includes an entry by the poster 'nathanchange,' who, in September 2006, offered the following advice for soliciting native women: "Go down to East Hastings with a gallon bucket of paint thinner and/or 92 octane Gasoline. Offer free samples. Done deal." The same thread featured a number of additional racist remarks — none of which have been deleted — which depict native women as poverty-striken drug addicts. DiscoverVancouver.com is owned by MyZone Media, which also owns ClubZone.com, TechVibes.com and CasinoZone.com. Mike Schwarz, president of ClubZone.com, says he realizes the message board does not paint a good impression of Vancouver for tourists, but the company has had to put off cleaning up the site due to the growth of ClubZone.com. There are 13 moderators that scan through DiscoverVancouver.com and delete controversial postings, but because there can be as many as 6,000 new postings in a single day, many become buried in the site. "We definitely know there's a lot of inflammatory information on there, and we're by no means at all condoning racism or things like that," says Schwarz, "but, at the same time, from a media perspective, controversy is always good, and so when you have people going on there slamming a local retailer who hasn't been holding up their refund policy... it sort of exposes truth." Schwarz says MyZone Media receives approximately one letter a week from a lawyer threatening to sue because of a comment made on the message board. However, he insists that if there is ever a legal discrepancy, the company immediately pulls the posting. Schwarz adds that DiscoverVancouver.com works with the Vancouver Police Department in finding pedophiles who have posted child pornography on the site, and also in preventing suicides; he claims that the strategy has led to a number of arrests and the prevention of at least one suicide. Schwarz also notes that the message board will eventually follow the ClubZone.com format, which will require users to log in before posting. However, that won't be lauched for another six months.
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Schwarz also notes that the message board will eventually follow the ClubZone.com format, which will require users to log in before posting. However, that won't be lauched for another six months.
What a bunch of BS. He's been promising this for years.
Can anyone provide some insight on the owner? What kind of person is he that he lets this shit go on? Reminds me of the guy who owns the Girls Gone Wild videos - sued all the time and yet, still rakes in the dough. He must have some major lawyers on his side.
I have the impression that he doesn't care about the content as long as it sells. As long as he can get away with it he will never put in registry. It certainly has nothing to do with helping tourists who want information, unless it provides them with negative information about Vancouver.
Can anyone answer this though: why do people advertise on that site, considering the content? Does Home Depot want to be associated with racism?
Yep, that's exactly what sums him up. I guess from the way DV has gone down the hill is that he only wants to see $$$ at the end of the way. Who cares as long as there's traffic going thru, right?
As for the number of active mods he has on board. Laughable. I can count the number of moderators off one hand. He DOES NOT care about the opinions of the moderators. Remember my stance against this pedophile? I asked that he do something about it and go nothing in response. Emails after emails were sent asking for Mike to do something about it. Only when I threatened to take it up to the authorities, citing that the owners basically don't give a rat's ass about it that he responded. Basically, he told me to bugger off and who am I to threaten him? I'm just a lowly moderator. He doesn't have to answer to me.
So is it ever a wonder to see why moderator after moderator left DV? It's gotten to the point where there's no point really. Why complain, why delete, why do anything when the owners basically don't give a damn? Banning is not enough in some cases because these idiots keep changing their IP address and keep coming back, bringing the same s....t after s....t. If you were the owner, wouldn't do you more than just banning?
However, I do think there's some hope left with DV. I feel that it can come out of this muck and go back to the days where people go there for adult and mature talk.
OK. Said my peace. Can't believe I'm dredging this up again. Sorry, folks.
Perhaps with more bad publicity, people will want to pull out from advertising on DV. Only time will tell.
greycat wrote:
Can anyone provide some insight on the owner? What kind of person is he that he lets this shit go on? Reminds me of the guy who owns the Girls Gone Wild videos - sued all the time and yet, still rakes in the dough. He must have some major lawyers on his side.
Girls Gone Wild is nothing compared to Bumfights. (//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/icon_smile_big.gif)
greycat wrote:
Can anyone answer this though: why do people advertise on that site, considering the content? Does Home Depot want to be associated with racism?
Home Depot and the other advertisers have no idea what kind of content their ads are appearing alongside of on that board. If they did they'd insist that they're ads be removed. The banner companies are the ones that supply the actual ads to the site, and that's kind of a mixed bag there.
The Discovervancouver banner companies are primarily Google and Falk AG. There has been a LOT of talk about Falk being a spyware purveyor or turning a blind eye towards the people that use them to load spyware onto your PC through their ads. [a href="vny!://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Falkag&btnG=Google+Search"]Type "falkag" into Google[/a] and their ad blurb says it all: "Falk eSolutions is one of the world's premier providers of fully-integrated, ASP-based ad serving and email marketing solutions"....in other words their marketers and spammers and possibly worse.
[a href="vny!://www.benedelman.org/news/062206-1.html"]This article[/a] details some of their abuses.It would appear that Falk is happily playing the game, defrauding clients and end users alike. They also played a part in this little escapade: [a href="vny!://www.dynamoo.com/diary/falkag-net.htm"]Falk AG / falkag.net Serving Viruses and Trojans[/a] - "Thousands of visitors hit by an IE exploit." Falk AG claimed that they were hacked, however, this is not the first time this has happened.
Needless to say, my sites don't use Falk for banners.
Google on the other hand would probably discontinue DV as a client if the nature of their message boards was made aware to them. It's hard to say, maybe, maybe not., but there's a good chance they'd suspend the site from serving Google ads.
Whoa. Interesting. I never knew that. Thanks for keeping us informed, TB. Yet another sneaky tool associated with DV. *sigh*
Nathanchange from DV made it to the media lol
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www.discovervancouverforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=134776
They started a History of DV thread. HAHHAHHHHAHA
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I am curently posting less and less on DV these days cause it is nothing more than a troll festivi;lle of Handlejackers... and Incompetent Mods... who are doing nothing about it half the time i think it is a Mod behind the handle jackings...
like hell Aboozer ie Moderator X was really bad for hijacking peoples names and playing cat and mouse with them...
it just is not worth it to go their anymore... i dont mind the trolls but handle jackers are a royal pain ...
How dare you orik?!?! You betrayed us all (//forums/richedit/smileys/1.gif)
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Hey Orik, hows it going. Going to be at SB tomorrow at the same time?
I agree, even I was handlejacked a few days ago on DV. LOL. I forget what thread it was in though.
lol yah ill be at sb tommorrow...
and general... go blow a goat... lol
Make sure the General doesn't blow Russ' goat, please. That would be a disaster! ;)
I will have to join you at SB one day Orik. I've been meaning to go up there for so long....
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And then they banned me
You are not alone. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/frech/c020.gif" border=0]
I've got a plan, and they aren't going to like it. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Hear that, DV? You've been warned!
There is a woeful post on DV, talking about the end of DV as we know it.....good things that come to an end....how many people will leave if they clean it up....etc.
I wonder if this poster realizes that for every person that will leave DV because there will be less swill to wade through, equally as many people have left because of it. Something tells me he wouldn't care too much though.
It seems hard for the posters there NOW, to realize that there were actually others before them. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/traurig/a010.gif" border=0]
wholley smokkes wrote:
Hear that, DV? You've been warned![/DIV]
Call or email CBC, and tell them about the real nature of DV before the interview? [A onclick="addImg('icon/509.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](//vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/509.gif)[/A]
[TABLE id=Table2 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: midnightblue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=10 width="100%" border=0] [TBODY] [TR bgColor=whitesmoke] [TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" vAlign=top align=left]mike[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 1/22/2007 5:36:55 PM[/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] Remember my stance against this pedophile? I asked that he do something about it and go nothing in response. Emails after emails were sent asking for Mike to do something about it. Only when I threatened to take it up to the authorities, citing that the owners basically don't give a rat's ass about it that he responded. Basically, he told me to bugger off and who am I to threaten him? I'm just a lowly moderator. He doesn't have to answer to me.
Yeah that is exactly right... she threatened me personally, so I told her to bugger off. Show me someone who wouldn't do the same to anyone else that threatens them. Yes, I "suddendly" noticed her emails when she threatened legal action or whatever... there were days we were getting 20+ emails per day from the Mods, and I only had physical time to read a few of the more critical ones. Doesn't mean I don't care, just didn't have the time to keep up with all the discussion... and is really hard to tell the difference between drama and a real case that needs to be brought to the authorities. The irony of all this BS drama was that we had already reported this case to the Police, they were looking into it, but she got mad at ME because they hadn't come up with a solution.
So is it ever a wonder to see why moderator after moderator left DV? It's gotten to the point where there's no point really. Why complain, why delete, why do anything when the owners basically don't give a damn?
We do care. We just don't like being threatened, thats all.
Banning is not enough in some cases because these idiots keep changing their IP address and keep coming back, bringing the same s....t after s....t. If you were the owner, wouldn't do you more than just banning?
We're doing more. Technology changes take time and money... In less than 2-3 months you'll see some big solutions coming into play here.
However, I do think there's some hope left with DV. I feel that it can come out of this muck and go back to the days where people go there for adult and mature talk.
OK. Said my peace. Can't believe I'm dredging this up again. Sorry, folks.
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So I gather Mike does read DS forum afterall. His response to me and the "coward" way for not coming in here and addressing me.
Frustration came after a refusal to ANSWER my emails with regards to something as serious as a pedophile. I have even included in the TITLE OR SUBJECT HEADING: URGENT to be read, or PLEASE READ ME IMMEDIATELY or TAKE NOTE or something like that. I forget which but I do know that I only threatened after no actions (basically no response to my emails) were taken.
The fact that the owner of DV actually HAS NOT HAD THE TIME TO READ a mod's email is laughable. When something as serious as this comes out and you don't have the time to read, it shows you what you really think of the mods who patrol your site.
No time to keep up with discussion? WHAT? Are you fracken kidding me? You could have said, "No worries, I'll look into it." or "Yep, I've noted down the IP address and I'll see what I can do" or "I'm busy but don't worry, this matter is serious and we'll handle it from here." How about something as simple as that? Instead, you did the best way you know how....
YOU IGNORE ME.
I ask you, what kind of person, ignores a moderator's pleas to look into this matter of a person who is so obssessed with child pornography that you would ignore messages after messages that you do something about it? Apparently someone who couldn't give a damn about it.
Right after I quit, there were more than one moderators who followed.
Only when, and only when, and I cite, "I will take this matter to the proper authorities citing that NO ACTION was taken by DiscoverVancouver" that you started to pay attention.
So forgive me if I seemed blunt but you took it upon yourself to ignore my pleas. What should I have done? Should I have kept pleading? I did the only thing possible, I threatened. It got your attention but at a cost. The damage's done and I will not be silenced into saying that you were right and I was wrong.
If you have anything to say to me, say it here instead of hiding behind DV. Come up to me and tell me that I'm wrong to threatened you for ignoring my calls to do something about a pedophile lurking in your forum.
There. Said my peace. Your turn.
You did the right thing Lise. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/liebe/d038.gif" border=0]
I can't believe what a liar, Mike is. To say one thing and then to say another. Like I KNOW that I asked he look into this matter but my emails were not answered. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Not even an acknowledgement.
The BS drama from the emails? What a bunch of BS. Why would we email BS drama, as he notes it, when I clearly said there's a pedophile lurking in the forum and why not do something about it? A simple matter of just reporting it to the authorities would have been sufficient. What's the point of being a mod if you don't report something like this?
I'm mad that nothing was done about Mike NOT RESPONDING to my emails, not the fact that the authorities were not doing anything about it. There's a difference.
I wasn't sure what to say, to describe my thoughts at the time, here is what I came up with....
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[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 1/22/2007 9:27:28 PM [FONT color=#00008b](D[/FONT][/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] the untrustworthy, bitter and hateful have shown their true colors, yet again...
we may have deluded ourselves into believing in the decent and good when all evidence pointed to they're being truly devoid of any class or scruples all along
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[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 1/22/2007 9:29:42 PM [/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] please interpret that statement for the rest of us...
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[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 1/22/2007 9:32:35 PM [/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] [TABLE id=Table2 style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: midnightblue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=10 width="100%" border=0] [TBODY] [TR bgColor=gainsboro] [TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" vAlign=top align=left]mr pomegranate[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 1/22/2007 9:27:28 PM[/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] the untrustworthy, bitter and hateful have shown their true colors, yet again...
we may have deluded ourselves into believing in the decent and good when all evidence pointed to they're being truly devoid of any class or scruples all along[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
Spoken like a true statesman, err... I mean "politican."
[DIV align=right][A href="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=135607&whichpage=3#top"][img height=15 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_go_up.gif" width=15 align=right border=0][/A][/DIV][/TD][/TR] [TR bgColor=whitesmoke] [TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" vAlign=top align=left]mr pomegranate
[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 1/22/2007 9:35:58 PM [/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] interpretation is in the mind of the reader, miss fifi
[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE] I am still interpreting in my own mind... for some reason, the words struck me as profound. Sorry to even post this, as these words will only mean the most to a few.
I think the whole 'freedom of speech' thing has been stretched to it's breaking point.
I may have the RIGHT to say whatever I like, but all sense of propriety, good judgement, discretion and conventional standards of proper behavior have been tossed by the wayside in the pursuit of this 'right'. There is such a thing as self censorship, and we use it all the time. You don't go into your mothers home and suggest she pass the f***ing mashed potatoes. You would probably not freely tell your boss that he is the biggest F'ing jerk you've ever met. (well....unless you're ready to move on. There's a price for everything)
As much as freedom of speech is alive and well, so is the freedom to say "Not in MY house, thank-you". People who think they are being deprived of their freedom of speech because they can't express themselves with a pittance of self control need to work on their communications skills. I've even felt the urge to wash my own mouth out with soap on occasion. But I don't find it inconvenient to watch my mouth according to the situation I'm in or the company I'm around. That being said, I find the swearing on DV to be the least offensive offense. This snipped from someone who is offended that he can't be offensive.......
On the other hand what makes this country great is the ability to have free speech and just say what's on your mind. I mean lets face it [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdfbf"]wouldn't you people [/FONT]complaining about racism for example, [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffdfbf"]really want to know what people who don't like you are saying in the privacy of their own home about you[/FONT]? Or would you rather live in a delusional world where you assune everyone likes you just because they have to be politically correct around you?
I have no problem with this. (in spite of the fact that I don't believe this is the intent behind freedom of speech) I absolutely believe you should be able to say what you like in the privacy of your own home. I do think, however, that this isn't what is going on. There is nothing private about spewing this stuff on a public forum.
It is in fact illegal to yell fire in a public theatre.....and fire isn't even a bad word.
End of lengthy (probably unpopular) rant.
> No time to keep up with discussion? WHAT? Are you fracken kidding me? You could have said, "No worries, I'll look into it." or "Yep, I've noted down the IP address and I'll see what I can do" or "I'm busy but don't worry, this matter is serious and we'll handle it from here." How about something as simple as that? Instead, you did the best way you know how....
In essence what you're saying is you'd have been happy if at the very least he kept up the act of caring, and he didn't even do that!
From what I've seen in all these years of being on DV is that that act is reserved for the times when DV gets really bad publicity in the media and there's a strong possibility that the authorities might be about to make a move.
In other words that act is used only to stabilize the boat. (But we all know it's JUST AN ACT.)
At least you wanted to be acknowledged.
However in his perception you were not significant enough to sway that boat.
So you could be ignored.
Orik wrote:
I am curently posting less and less on DV these days cause it is nothing more than a troll festivi;lle of Handlejackers... and Incompetent Mods... who are doing nothing about it half the time i think it is a Mod behind the handle jackings...
like hell Aboozer ie Moderator X was really bad for hijacking peoples names and playing cat and mouse with them...
Jigga what?
/PAGING MR. ORIK/
/MR. ORIK, WOULD YOU PLEASE PICK UP A WHITE COURTESY TELEPHONE. YOUR FLAME IS WAITING./
This thread needs more CURSES!!!!!!!!1111
I think he's in his cave.
And I lost the address :(
hmmmmmmmmm Orik:
you $%#@^# and ^%&$# i'll see you in ^%#$@ and then you &^$%# when i ^&%#$@^ you in the &%$#&%$#&!!!!!!
I hear Jill Krop is having a baby? she must be in her 40 's who's the daddy?
who are you and why do you ask?