Well, on the way home I saw a HUGE tree that collapsed onto a house along 12th ave between fraser just before kingsway. The police and city workers had both of the lanes closed going towards kingsway except for one going each way on the other side of the street. As the tree had pulled out from its roots when it toppled pulling up half the lane and the green space with part of the sidewalk. Two houses look affected. Myself and my carpool buddy laughed, talk about Karma coming up...
When I got to the way down towards my house many branches had fallen and one tree along the block.
However, Im now soaked. We have one of those temporary/permanent tarp garages covering the 21 foot skiboat that my brother and I share.. You guessed it the whole thing had torn or shifted and was flapping. I was just down there tying everything togehter with strong ropes and putting stay ropes to keep the structure from moving or flexing... Then the leg on one end that I was just tying whipped out with a big gust of wind pulling one of the roof structure pieces and cracked the side of the window on my boat! It also smacked the gunnel side right below the window putting those fibreglass spider cracks into the newer gelcoat I had put on during the summer.
EDIT: I just went and looked again after relaxing and being inside for a while. The window looked cracked from beside it on the ground but when I went into the boat, it had knocked the window OUT of the aluminum window siding. Hard to explain. It is a little cracked, but if I put it back into the slider and reseal it with some window adhesive it'll be good as new. <cooler tempered head talking>
Grr. I have secured it ok now, but left the sides flapping to keep the wind from catching it.. Im hoping our house insurance will cover the boat as we took the insurance off the boat/trailer mid october; due to it being a nice weather boat and we couldnt see using it during the winter, lol.
Hope its better where you all are, or you are having abetter day and wind/rain experience
It hasn't stopped raining and its really windy here all day. Supposedly it might snow tonight.
Oh my Russ. Sorry to hear about your boat. From where I sit at my desk, all looks so quiet and calm outside I can tell you that I'm not looking forward to leaving this building. Thank goodness that I'll be taking the skytrain for the night than driving. I hope that it settles down this late evening. I'm lucky that I don't have to be outside for so long.
My b/f, on the otherhand, works outdoors for part of his job. Thank goodness he brought that heavy duty rain coat the other day to keep him super warm and dry.
Yeah, it's been raining like hell here and it's blowing so hard the rain is going sideways. I can't believe I haven't lost power yet.
Thanks guys. Sorry about the rant, I was a little frustrated and wet.
I saw it was snowing in the mountains, but I dont think itll snow down here yet.
Hopefully your boyfriend doesnt get sick purelife.. Im wearing warmer clothes and a better rainjacket tomorrow.
yeah Its raining pretty bad here, don't think I'm going to make that treck to school tonight. Don't feel like it and don't trust that tire. Rather have the tire blow up in the snow and rain tonight in the middle of the night instead of in the middle of a traffic jam going 100kph right next to some semi.
I hope so too, Russ. When he gets sick, I might get it as well. Lately, I've been immuned to colds, even when he gets it. *knock on wood a few 100 times*
Boy, Russ! Sorry to hear about that. I hate the rain too and it looks like it's not going to get any better. I hate to be the one out there driving now.
Coffee's on me.
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Coffee for Russ.
I was supposed to be getting the weatherstripping replaced on my car and had an appointment this afternoon after work. When I got to the garage they told me they hadn't ordered it in case I didn't show up, and they wanted prepayment on the work. I very politely told them to forget it and went to a place I have dealt with before. Meanwhile, I'm stuck with a leaky car for another week. Grrr.
Ah, cars are the bane of my life. You can't live with one and you can't live without one. Had mine just in the shop recently. I almost dropped at the pricetage. *grumble grumble grumble*
Some of these car dealerships are just out there to rip your wallet, Ms. kitten. Gotta be a good mechanic that will help you and not just think you're made outta money.
Actually, the place I'm going to have my car done is very good. They seem to take pride in their work and don't gouge you. I've never had trouble with anything they've repaired.
Oh wow, really? Maybe I'll get the address off you one of these days. Am always on the hunt for good mechanics.
It's Midas, at the corner of Willingdon and Dawson. You could tell them I recommended them if you want.
Oh I know what you're talking about. I've seen this place. Sure thing, kitten. Thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks for the coffee Lise! 'bless' I actually had a few cups when I was making dinner.
I have heard of that midas actually, I had an exhaust system built there (custom). they do have a good reputation. I know of a few other places I would recommend going. I will dig up their numbers and give them to you. One of them is a self run by an older guy that takes care to do the cheapest way possible for people and can be flexible on charges.
I would never take a vehicle to the Dealer unless its under warranty or requires extremely specialized tools to do something on the vehicle. They charge too much for labour and for parts. But thats just IMO.
Whats wrong with your tire SD?
Russ: Update on SD. He's on hiatus for now. He'll be back soon, methinks.
HAHAHAAAA! Sucks to be in BC!
Nope. Doesn't suck to be in BC but it's a pain at times. More rain to come. Break out the umbrellas.
B.C. flood threat eases, but rain advisory remains
Cool weather is easing the threat of flooding in the Fraser Valley, a provincial forecaster said Monday.
River levels could stabilize or even recede over the next two days, according to Allan Chapman, head of British Columbia's river forecast centre.
However, a heavy rainfall advisory remained in effect for Greater Vancouver on Monday, three days after it was issued by Environment Canada.
Rain pounded the Lower Mainland overnight and forecasters warned another 25 millimetres of precipitation could fall on Monday.
On Sunday night, an estimated 75 millimetres fell in the Fraser Valley east of Vancouver. The rain swelled the Chilliwack River, which burst its banks and forced residents from their homes last week.
[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"]Environment Canada predicted 10 to 20 millimetres of rain would fall on the western Fraser Valley, and 15 to 25 millimetres of rain on eastern areas of the valley, which includes Chilliwack, by Monday evening.[/FONT]
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...each their own...
and the drinking water is not safe for the GVRD. This morning when I went to use the bathroom at work, I noticed that the water was very dirty...a dirty brown. Blech. I got this notice in my email advising all to boil the water for a few days.
I heard that on the news. I guess it will be bottled water for drinking for a while. I can't imagine using it for coffee. UGH!
No brown water today for us but I'm not taking any chance. Boil! Boil! Boil!
Really? Uh, I wish I woulda heard that, um 3/4 of a mug of water ago.
Oh well, it should be safe enough, i mean its brita water right? lol
Dunno Russ. How's your tapeworms.... I mean stomach doing?
Brita water should be okay. You might have to change the filter more often. *every day??*
Im not too worried about it to be honest.
For things like micro-organisms brita and charcoal filters are almost useless, they need to have UV sterilizing lights as well to be effective. Brita and charcoal filters help with things mechanical or semi soluble in the water solution like chemicals and particulates.
The drinking water in my house is double filtered, and when I drink out of my fridge it has its own filter and UV light built in. I would suggest that if you get a fridge with an ice and water ability on it.
That's why you boil everything. Coming from a developing country, it's ingrained in my brain to boil, boil and then boil everything.
It would take forever to boil enough water for a real bath, so I guess there will be more sponge bathing for a while. On the other hand, I haven't seen any turbid water yet, so I'll enjoy while I can.
I have never heard of worrying about boiling water for bathing. On the ships when we work off the west african coast we embark water for domestic uses. All except for drinking. We have cases and cases of bottled water for drinking, for cooking we boil the water first. But we use the water for bathing and such without a problem. The only time I got sick on that water was when I used the water to brush my teeth without thinking...
Lol, but to my point! I dont think you have to worry about washing miss kitten, the warnings only for drinking AFAIK.
I've seen the water turn a muddy brown colour before, and it looks revolting in the tub. I would hate to get it splashed in my eyes, and washing my hair in it wouldn't do much for the hair.
Got what you mean. Im looking into it too much
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Blech. I got this notice in my email advising all to boil the water for a few days.
...that's overkill! A minute should do it : )
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You're too quick weird al.....rofl
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You're too quick weird al.....rofl
...thank ya....thank ya very much..... : )
We were lucky that water out in New Westminster and Burnaby weren't affected.
Wasn't the boil water advisory for the whole greater vancouver area? & I think they said that the water being clear was no guarantee of safety.
For the GVRD. Where I am in Van the waters clear as well. All the places around where I am have no coffee being sold. I found somewhere this morning but it got shut down by the higher powers about an hour ago even though they were boiling their water.
Blast! No coffee on break.
Water still clean in BBY but yes, the warning is for all over Greater Vancouver as well. I'm taking no chances. Still boiling my water and using it to brush my teeth. Can't do much about the showers though but as long as the water looks clear, I'm showering today.
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[DIV class=para12 id=article] One of the largest water warnings in the province's history was issued Thursday for Greater Vancouver's two million residents after torrential rains triggered dozens of landslides into the region's reservoirs, turning tap water cloudy and brown.
Hospitals, daycares and schools were ordered to boil tap water or use bottled water. Other residents were advised to boil tap water or use bottled water.
"I think they should be concerned with the level of turbidity," Vancouver medical health officer Patricia Daly told a news conference.
"Having said that, it's their choice. But if they ask my opinion, they shouldn't be drinking water from the taps with turbidity levels this high."
Daly said the boil-water order would be extended to the public only if there was evidence of contamination in the drinking water, or evidence that it is causing illness in the population "and we don't have that at the present time."
However, she said periods of high turbidity in drinking water are often followed by higher levels of gastrointestinal illnesses because chlorine is less effective at killing harmful organisms when they are coated with silt.
The turbidity level -- the amount of sediment in the water -- "is the worst they've seen, ever," Vancouver Health Authority spokeswoman Viviana Zanocco said earlier.
Greater Vancouver Regional District water manager Paul Archibald said it was the first such advisory in the 20 years he has been with the district.
He said he had seen turbidity levels as high or higher once before, during the 1990s, but no health advisory was issued then.
Provincial public health officer Dr. Perry Kendall said the advisory is "probably one of the larger ones in recent history."
Daly could not say whether home-filtering systems can clean out organisms in the water.
"We can't guarantee that those devices are going to work," she said, adding that people should check with their manufacturers.
"If people are concerned about the water, our advice is to drink bottled water or to boil their water for one minute," she said.
Turbidity levels started going up late Wednesday afternoon as a major rainstorm lashed coastal communities, said the GVRD's Archibald.
By Thursday morning, the turbidity was 90 times the target level in one of the region's three North Shore reservoirs, and 70 times the target level in another.
However, by Thursday afternoon those levels had dropped by nearly half, said Johnny Carline, the district's water commissioner.
Carline said the turbidity was the result of dozens of landslides into the reservoirs, but fresh water coming in from streams that feed the reservoirs is much cleaner.
"We're trying to spill as much water from those reservoirs as we can to get rid of the muddy water and replace it with clean water," he said.
Turbidity is measured in NTUs -- nephelometric turbidity units, based on the amount of light reflected off particles in the water. The recommended level for tap water is one NTU, and five NTUs triggers an advisory from the water district.
Thursday morning, the water from Seymour reservoir hit 90 NTUs and Capilano water 70 NTUs. The Coquitlam reservoir, whose shores are more gravelly, got no higher than six to seven NTUs.
Between 60 and 65 per cent of the region's water currently comes from the Coquitlam reservoir, 15 per cent from Seymour and the rest from Capilano.
Carline said the tap water was murkiest on the North Shore, around downtown Vancouver and as far south as the Little Mountain area and east to central Burnaby. The rest of the region should be getting relatively clean water from the Coquitlam reservoir.
However, he warned that there can be enough silt in tap water to create health concerns even if the water isn't visibly turbid.
Daly said health authorities will monitor turbidity levels daily and will withdraw the boil-water advisory if they fall far enough.
However, Carline warned: "We all know there is another storm forecast for Sunday, and so we'll have to sit and wait and see what the impact of that is."
Thursday's advisory was issued by the water district on the advice of the coastal and Fraser health authorities.
Archibald said the slides were triggered by 150 millimetres of rain falling into the watersheds over about 15 hours, after the soil had been saturated by earlier rainstorms.
"When you have those kinds of conditions, something is bound to give way and in this case it was a number of slides."
The water district "significantly" increased the amount of chlorine it uses to treat the water. But Daly said residents shouldn't be concerned about high chlorine levels because most of it dissipates by the time it comes out of their taps.
Health care facilities, daycares and schools are now required to use bottled water or boil water for at least a full minute, for drinking, brushing teeth or washing fruit and vegetables, Daly said.
It can be used for cooking as long as it is boiled, she said. "It's also safe for hand-washing, for bathing, dishwashing is fine and laundry use is fine."
The health advisory made getting a cup of coffee in the normally j-ava-rich city harder than usual Thursday.
Scott Coburn, spokesman for Marketplace IGA, said the grocery chain decided to stop serving coffee and tea in its in-store cafes shortly after noon Thursday "just out a sense of precaution." Stores were also advised throughout the Lower Mainland to turn off the water sprinklers in the produce department and remove food from ice displays.
At the same time, Coburn said, bottled water sales "are going crazy right now."
The coffee pot remained on at Turk's Coffee Exchange on Commercial Drive, though owner Linda Turko took tea off the menu Thursday "just to be on the safe side."
Turko said water used in her coffee and coffee-based drinks is all filtered through a "heavy-duty commercial-type filter" before ending up in customer's cups, and felt confident in its safety.
Some Starbucks locations stopped serving coffee and tea temporarily Thursday, but later resumed full service.
Glenn Pepperell, owner of Knot Just Bagels in downtown Vancouver, also stopped selling tea, coffee and coffee-based drinks for a while, but resumed when he heard other businesses were continuing to sell hot drinks.
"I think someone just pulled the panic alarm," he said.
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Daly could not say whether home-filtering systems can clean out organisms in the water.
"We can't guarantee that those devices are going to work," she said, adding that people should check with their manufacturers.
There goes the Brita system out of the window. I think I would avoid drinking any tea or coffee outside for now. Not that I do drink them these days but I'm not taking any chances.
I LIKE the rainy season. I spend so little time inside during the spring, summer and early fall, that I'm glad for the opportunity to do indoor projects that I simply won't do during that time. There's just something great about being in the warmth and comfort, feathering your nest, (lol) when it's miserable outside.
I heard on the news that even filters can't be relied on because they can't filter out all the micro-organisms that may be in the water. Notices were delivered to all the apartments in my building to boil all water for internal use, like washing veggies and that sort of thing. Also for washing dishes and brushing teeth. It does apply to all of Greater Vancouver.
Been blown off my feet my 60 m.p.h. gales earlier this morning, they've now subsided and the rain's coming down as if all the oceans were emptying at once.
We are supposed to be getting that kind of storm on Sunday. For now it is just ordinary rain. (dull, depressing, perpetual) Have you received boil water warnings in your area, Gopher?
Not yet, we're more concentrating on floods - yet again.
I'd rather boil water than worry about floods. You do have it worse there.
They've never properly fixed the drains since the first time around.
Whereabout are you located, Gopher? Sounds bad.
Where am I located? Hmm, as I like to play my cards close to my chest, I'll just say I'm several degrees north of you.
Ah, ok. No probs. Totally understand. I don't think there's a dry spot in all of BC, at least nowhere that has not been affected by this weather.
Blesssed be they who understand.