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It's not up yet, but tomorrow it should be possible to hear the Sunday, Oct. 22, interview Mike did with Ray McGovern, described as "27 year veteran with the CIA and co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity." He talks, from the POV of an "intelligence professional," about the destruction of U.S. democracy.
Mother Jones has an interview with McGovern here:
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