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Title: Uh oh, Google Turns Evil
Post by: TehBorken on Sep 14 06 08:40
 [h3]Google's new lobbyists: lying, astroturfing, push-polling scumbags    [/h3]Google's new DC lobbyists have a reputation for slime, astroturfing and push-polling.  Joshua Micah Marshall, of Talking Points Memo, points out that Google has hired a DC lobbyist firm with a reputation for being good at courting Republicans, which makes sense, given that the GOP is the party in power. [/p] But DCI, the lobbyists on Google's payroll, have a long history of using deceptive and slimy tactics to achieve the ends commissioned by their clients, who've used DCI's dirty tricks to fight Social Security, and DCI even hired the guy behind the notorious lying scumbag group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. [/p]I think that I probably share more than 80 percent of Google's legislative goals -- goals like a neutral Internet, a lawful book-search service, limitation of liability for search-engines, cachers, etc -- but my biggest and most important legislative goal is an America where open democracy, and not lies, push-polls, and sleaze dominate the political process. [/p] It may seem like fighting the bad guys without resorting to scumbag tactics is fighting with one hand tied behind our backs. But we have an advantage that the other side lacks: we want what's good for America, the Internet and the world. The other side wants to line its pockets and give power to its cronies. They need astroturf to make that look like a populist agenda. [/p] We don't need to lie to make our agenda seem populist and unselfish.  [/p][blockquote]DCI, if you're not familiar with them, is an interlocking group of companies which is the phony seed bed for most noxious astroturf organizing and general bamboozlement in contemporary politics. [/blockquote]  [a href="vny!://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009776.php"]Link[/a]    
Title: Re: Uh oh, Google Turns Evil
Post by: Mutilated Mind on Sep 15 06 01:32
I don't know if you are saying "Google turns evil" in facetiousness or not, TehBorken, but remember - the Google motto isn't "Do no evil" - it's "Don't be evil".

Don't "be" evil.

Does that mean anything ?
Title: Re: Uh oh, Google Turns Evil
Post by: P.C. on Sep 15 06 03:55
the Google motto isn't "Do no evil" - it's "Don't be evil".

Don't "be" evil.

Does that mean anything ?


  Are you saying you can DO evil, without BEING evil ????  
Title: Re: Uh oh, Google Turns Evil
Post by: TehBorken on Sep 16 06 06:52
 Mutilated Mind wrote:
I don't know if you are saying "Google turns evil" in facetiousness or not, TehBorken, but remember - the Google motto isn't "Do no evil" - it's "Don't be evil".

I know- it doesn't say they can't hire evil.


Don't "be" evil.
Does that mean anything ?
 
It does to me, but there's a lot of wiggle room in there.
Title: Re: Uh oh, Google Turns Evil
Post by: Mutilated Mind on Sep 16 06 07:49
 TehBorken wrote:
Mutilated Mind wrote:
I don't know if you are saying "Google turns evil" in facetiousness or not, TehBorken, but remember - the Google motto isn't "Do no evil" - it's "Don't be evil".

I know- it doesn't say they can't hire evil.
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True enough ; and neither does it say - to be sure, to be blunt and spell it out - they can't DO evil.