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        [SPAN class=titlenewsroom]KFC Sued for Fouling Chicken with Partially Hydrogenated Oil[/SPAN]
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[SPAN class=idnewsroom]Lawsuit Aimed at Eliminating, or Disclosing Use of Artery-Clogging Frying Oil[/SPAN]  [!-- Body --]WASHINGTON--[A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/pdf/final_complaint.pdf"]See you in court[/A], Colonel Sanders.  That's the message delivered today to [A href="vny!://www.kfc.com/"]KFC[/A], a unit of Louisville, KY-based Yum! Brands, by the nonprofit Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI). Today that group and the Washington, DC, law firm of Heideman Nudelman & Kalik, P.C., filed suit against the fast-food giant over its use of partially hydrogenated oil--the chemically altered, trans-fat-laden oil that kills roughly 50,000 Americans per year. The class action suit, filed in Superior Court of the District of Columbia, asks that the court prohibit KFC from using partially hydrogenated oil, or that at the very least, signs be posted in KFC outlets notifying customers that many KFC foods are high in trans fat.  "Grilled, baked, or roasted chicken is a healthy food-and even fried chicken can be trans-fat-free," said CSPI executive director Michael F. Jacobson. "But coated in breading and fried in partially hydrogenated oil, this otherwise healthy food becomes something that can quite literally take years off your life. KFC knows this, yet it recklessly puts its customers at risk of a Kentucky Fried Coronary."  [A href="vny!://www.yum.com/nutrition/documents/kfc_nutrition.pdf"]Meals at KFC can be startlingly high in trans fat[/A]. Besides chicken, KFC's biscuits, potato wedges, pot pie, and several desserts all contain hefty amounts of trans fat from partially hydrogenated oil. Just one Extra Crispy breast has 4.5 grams of trans fat. A large order of Popcorn Chicken has 7 grams of trans fat, and KFC's Pot Pie contains 14 grams of trans. A typical 3-piece Extra Crispy combo meal, with a drumstick, two thighs, potato wedges, and a biscuit has a staggering 15 grams of trans fat-more trans fat than an individual should consume in a week.  The plaintiff in the case is retired physician Arthur Hoyte, of Rockville, Maryland. He had purchased fried chicken at KFC outlets in Washington, DC, and elsewhere, not knowing that KFC fries in partially hydrogenated oil.  "If I had known that KFC uses an unnatural frying oil, and that their food was so high in trans fat, I would have reconsidered my choices," said Dr. Hoyte. "I am bringing this suit because I want KFC to change the way it does business. And I'm doing it for my son and others' kids-so that they may have a healthier, happier, trans-fat-free future."  Once thought to be innocuous, trans fat is now known to be more harmful than saturated fat, since it simultaneously raises one's LDL cholesterol, which promotes heart disease, and lowers one's HDL cholesterol, which protects against it. Small amounts of trans fat occur naturally in beef and milk, but almost 80 percent of Americans' trans fat comes from partially hydrogenated oils. The new trans-fat labeling requirement for packaged foods, has encouraged numerous manufacturers to switch to non-hydrogenated vegetable oil.  [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/pdf/trans_report.pdf"]Restaurants have been much slower to act[/A]. McDonald's famously promised to reduce trans fat in cooking oil in 2002, though it quietly reneged on that promise in 2003. In 2004, California trial attorney Stephen Joseph filed a lawsuit against McDonald's over its [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200409241.html"]broken promise[/A], which the company settled in 2005 by agreeing to pay $7 million to the American Heart Association. McDonald's still has not changed its oil.  Just last week, the Wendy's fast-food chain [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200606081.html"]announced[/A] it was switching to a non-hydrogenated mixture of corn and soybean oil in its deep-fryers, making its fried foods virtually trans-fat-free. Among major table-service chain restaurants, the 700-outlet [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/pdf/ruby_tuesday_statement.pdf"]Ruby Tuesday [/A]chain has dumped partially hydrogenated oil (in favor of canola oil). While many fast-food chains have added more healthful items to their menus, KFC's highest profile nutrition gambit was [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200311073.html"]an ill-conceived and widely ridiculed ad campaign designed to portray KFC fried chicken as a weight-loss aid and health food[/A]. Those ads-which Jacobson said "took the truth, dipped it in batter, and deep-fried it"--were pulled after CSPI filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission.  "District of Columbia law allows consumers to seek relief from the courts when companies fail to disclose essential facts about their products," said CSPI litigation director Stephen Gardner. "That KFC uses the worst frying oil imaginable to prepare its chicken is something that KFC should absolutely be required to disclose at the point of purchase."  The lawsuit asks the court to require KFC to switch to a less harmful frying oil. If the court declines to do that, it could require signs in restaurants that say "KFC's fried chicken and certain other foods contain trans fat, which promotes heart disease." Although a decision against KFC in the lawsuit would only be binding in the District of Columbia, CSPI hopes it would encourage the chain to change its practices nationwide. "  This lawsuit is meant to serve as wake-up call to the food industry that changes must be made to protect the consumer from known dangers to his or her health," said Richard D. Heideman, senior counsel of Heideman Nudelman & Kalik, P.C.  Trans-fat levels at KFC vary widely around the world. According to [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200604131.html"]research published in the New England Journal of Medicine[/A], KFC chicken and potato products in Spain, Portugal, and Denmark have far less trans fat than they do in the United States, Peru, or Poland, for instance. (Hungary had the most). Denmark restricts the use of trans fat from hydrogenated oils to 2 percent of the fat in foods.  In recent months, CSPI has turned to litigation to get food companies to market their products more honestly. It has negotiated out-of-court settlements with [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200508112.html"]Tropicana[/A], [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200505031.html"]Quaker[/A], [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200606011.html"]Frito-Lay[/A], and [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200508111.html"]Pinnacle Foods[/A] and was credited (along with Heideman Nudelman & Kalik) with being the catalyst for an agreement to get [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200605031.html"]soda out of schools [/A]that the industry reached with former President Clinton and others. CSPI will likely soon sue [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200605111.html"]Cadbury-Schweppes [/A]for rebranding 7UP as "all-natural" (it's not) and is currently suing the maker of a fungus-based meat substitute called [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/quorn/"]Quorn[/A]. for failing to inform consumers that the product can cause severe vomiting, diarrhea, and breathing difficulties. Also, CSPI and the Campaign for Commercial-Free Childhood are having discussions with Kellogg about [A href="vny!://www.cspinet.org/new/200601181.html"]marketing junk food to young children[/A] and may ultimately sue that company and Viacom/Nickelodeon.  "It's harder to avoid trans fat at KFC than at any other fast-food chain in America," Jacobson said. "You can't tell by tasting or by looking at the food, but trans fat is almost everywhere on this menu. By frying in such a dangerous oil, KFC is making its unsuspecting consumers' arteries Extra Crispy. CSPI would far prefer the trans-fat problem be solved through voluntary action by restaurants or regulatory action by the FDA, but neither industry nor government has acted. Hence this litigation." [!-- End Body --]


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I only eat subway now.

and for me........ Vietnamese sandwiches

oh there's this Vietnamese bistro by my house, never went in but it looks cool.

Consumption of trans fats has been linked to higher rates of cancer, heart disease, and Alzheimer's disease.  Some countries have outlawed adding trans fats to food. Trans fats wreak havoc at a molecular level on the body's cells, and actually fit better into the category of poison than food.

    Trans fats contain massive amounts of free radicals -- substances that have lost an electron, and will snatch an electron from another molecule to balance their own electrical charges, leaving the second molecule unbalanced, setting off an uncontrolled chain reaction called free radical propagation.  This causes serious harm to the body. When parents take their kids to McDonald's or KFC, they are essentially poisoning them.
 

Couldn't agree with you more there, Adam.

  Trans fat is so bad that it may be linked to obesity and diabetic. We should look to places like Denmark where it is banned from the menu. Now you can go into a restaurant there and not have to worry about eating trans fat.

  Good website to read about banning trans fat: [A href="vny!://www.bantransfats.com/"]vny!://www.bantransfats.com/[/A]

    [FONT size=5]What's Canada doing about it?[/FONT]

   [FONT size=6]Go Canada!!!
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 [P class=maintext]In November 2004, the New Democratic Party (NDP) introduced a bill in the Canadian Parliament which would effectively ban trans fats. Click [A class=mainblue href="vny!://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/bills/private/C-220/C-220_1/C-220_cover-E.html" target=_blank]here[/A] to read the bill. In response to this initiative, the House of Commons by 193 to 73 passed a motion calling for the establishment of the task force, followed by regulations or a law to limit trans-fat content in all food products.[SPAN class=style42][FONT face=Verdana color=#333333 size=2] Click [/FONT][A href="vny!://www.bantransfats.com/canadamotion.htm"][FONT face=Verdana size=2]here[/FONT][/A][FONT face=Verdana color=#333333 size=2] to read the motion and to see how each M.P. voted.[/FONT][/SPAN]

 [SPAN class=style42][FONT face=Verdana color=#333333 size=2]As a direct result of the NDP's initiative, the Canadian Government health ministry, Health Canada, announced the formation of a task force to "develop recommendations and strategies for reducing trans fats in Canadian foods to the lowest levels possible." [/FONT][/SPAN][SPAN class=maintext]Click [FONT color=#000000 size=2][FONT color=#666699][A href="vny!://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/media/releases/2004/2004_56.htm"][FONT color=#666699]here[/FONT][/A][/FONT][/FONT] to read the government announcement.[/SPAN]

 [P class=maintext]The NDP's initiative originated with the work of [A href="vny!://www.patmartin.ca/" target=_blank]Pat Martin[/A], M.P., the primary anti-trans fat advocate in Canada. NDP leader, Jack Layton, M.P. introduced the motion in the House of Commons and has taken this issue forward with Pat Martin. [A href="vny!://www.patmartin.ca/"][/A]

[A href="vny!://www.patmartin.ca/"] [/A] [DIV align=center]Canadian MP Pat Martin,
dedicated anti-trans fat campaigner

[P class=maintext]Incidentally, we have provided information and support to Pat Martin and his excellent staff and will continue to do so.

 [P class=maintext]In August 2005, the Trans Fat Task Force created by the Canadian Government health ministry issued an interim report. Click [A href="vny!://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/nutrition/gras-trans-fats/tftf_interim_report_rapport_preliminaire_e.html"]here[/A] to read the report. Click [A href="vny!://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/nutrition/gras-trans-fats/government_response_reponse_gouvernement_e.html"]here[/A] to read the Canadian Government's response to the interim report.

 [P class=maintext]Well done and congratulations NDP, Pat Martin, and Canada!

 [P class=maintext]Go Canada!!!

Click [A href="vny!://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/nutrition/gras-trans-fats/index_e.html"]here[/A] for the Trans Fat Task Force's webpage.

Click [A href="vny!://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate/!ctvVideo/CTVNews/Layton_transfatmotion_20041117/20041118/?video_link_high=mms://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/video/2004/11/18/ctvvideologger1_143kbps_2004_11_18_1100782068.wmv&video_link_low=mms://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/video/2" target=_new]here[/A] to see video news reports about the Canadian initiative.

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 [P class=maintext]Source: [A href="vny!://www.bantransfats.com/"]vny!://www.bantransfats.com/[/A]

Although you'd get no argument from me, that eating such crap isn't a good idea, I'm uncomfortable with the government legislating what I eat.

P.C. wrote:
Although you'd get no argument from me, that eating such crap isn't a good idea, I'm uncomfortable with the government legislating what I eat.  

 That is true but if the government doesn't step in and control what goes into your food, who knows what end up inside you. Besides, if  ppl can stay healthy way into their senior years, the government wouldn't need to spend so much on healthcare so they have a vested interest in our health and diet.


 

I'm thinking it would be far more effective to legislate stupidity.  It's simply a matter of awareness.  It's already legislated that ingredients must be listed.....the choice then becomes the consumers.  It would become a form of kulling........leaving a more intelligent society. (I'm halfway speaking with tongue-in-cheek).      

P.C. wrote:
Although you'd get no argument from me, that eating such crap isn't a good idea, I'm uncomfortable with the government legislating what I eat. Interesting point.  It is always important to be vigilant against government abuses -- which usually take the form of corrupt corporate alliances -- but I completely welcome certain laws that have to do with protecting public health. Perhaps it just comes down to enforcing laws already in existence.  I imagine that there are already laws to the effect that it is illegal to add poison to food products, and trans fats are poison, plain and simple.  

 Consumption of trans fats reduces childrens intelligence, thus probably contributing to increased crime-rates and other behaviors associated with reduced mental function.  Prisoners, who by and large are a mentally-limited lot tend to have worse diets and higher amounts of such toxins as lead, trans fats, and pesticides in their systems.

 
 

   

Not to mention another consumer product, the tobacco. Then again, that's another story.

  Here's what CTV found recently:

  So CTV News sent five popular restaurant or takeout foods to be analyzed for their trans fat content, in a bid to give consumers some idea of what they're eating.


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The products were randomly selected, and other restaurants or take out stores that offer similar products that were not tested. The level of trans fatty acids may vary between products and brands. (For details, see accompanying chart).


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We found trans fats in every product we tested:  [UL] [LI]Five small chicken nuggets from a fast food chicken outlet contained nearly 4 grams of trans  [LI]An apple danish from a donut shop contained about 2.7 grams of trans  [LI]Two vegetable spring rolls from a Chinese takeout contained about 1.7 grams of trans  [LI]And just one fillet of battered fish from a fish and chips restaurant dinner contained about 1.2 grams of trans -- and that's not including the trans in the fries.  [LI]Even in pizza, which many might consider one of the healthier fast foods, you'd most likely ingest about 1 gram of trans fat in two slices -- most of it from vegetable shortening used to process the crust.[/LI][/UL] Source: [A href="vny!://www.ctv.ca/generic/WebSpecials/transfat/index_story1a1.html"]vny!://www.ctv.ca/generic/WebSpecials/transfat/index_story1a1.html[/A]

Good for CTV!

Sportsdude wrote:
 I only eat subway now.

.......You EAT Subway - more than a mouthful there,  I would have thought.
   

While it's fair to ask to know the contents of the food that you order in a restaurant, a lot of it is common sense as well. I have a hard time believing that a person who eats at KFC would be surprised to find that the food is high in trans fat!

That's kind of my feeling as well 007.  The information is so available.  To suggest that we need legislation to 'persuade' us to eat wisely is almost insulting coming from a place where they can't take a stand on smoking. (I know that's a whole new ball of wax, but....)

  There's no money involved in 'banning' trans fats.....they'd stand to lose billions in tobacco taxes, so that remains OK.

007 wrote:
While it's fair to ask to know the contents of the food that you order in a restaurant, a lot of it is common sense as well. I have a hard time believing that a person who eats at KFC would be surprised to find that the food is high in trans fat!

   Why would most consumers know about trans fats in KFC foods, when it is not a widely taught knowledge, and KFC/McDonalds spread misinformation that their so-called food is nutritious?

  I doubt most people even know what trans fat is, never being aware that KFC and McDonalds food is full of the disease-causing toxin.  The nature of the havoc they wreak on people is not widespread knowledge, suffice to say it is a known carcinogen linked to various horrible diseases such as breast cancer, brain tumours, Alzhemer's disease, and heart disease (what's bad for the heart is bad for the brain).  Trans fats perform freaky molecular physics on your flesh. Would you like to poison a child with that? Just give the child a cookie.  No wonder so many kids are so messed-up.

 Trans fat is not the same as plain fat.  Trans fat is molecularly altered and rarely occurs in nature.  It should be outlawed.
       

You don't need to be a scientist to know that fast food/convenience foods aren't healthy.....period.

(don't get me wrong, I indulge once in a while), but I'm not deluding myself that I'm doing my health any favours.  If anyone hasn't figured this out by now, without the assistance of government legislation.......

  Why don't they just publish pictures of clotted arteries, globs of fat encased hearts etc. on the waxed paper wrappers of such foods.  rofl

Once, in a restaurant in China, I ordered "xiezi", thinking that I was ordering egglplant -- "quiezi".  But I was served a plate of fried scorpions. I just ate it. Quite crunchy.  Anyway, I was just thinking that a plate of fried scorpions is a lot healthier and safer to eat than the toxic crap they serve at McD/KFC.  

One time in a St. Louis area KFC a customer found a fried roosters head in her meal.  They showed the fried head on tv and I have never been the same since.

Adam_Fulford wrote:
Why would most consumers know about trans fats in KFC foods, when it is not a widely taught knowledge, and KFC/McDonalds spread misinformation that their so-called food is nutritious?

    I bet if more and more consumers are made aware of how harmful trans fat can be, there'd be a hell more public pressure to get rid of it. The stupid part is nobody wants to know about these hidden dangers because the powers that be have the money and the man-power to persuade otherwise.

  I remember the time when KFC was trying to promote how 'healthy' it is but I don't think the public bought that. Nobody in their right mind will think frying chicken is healthy.

  As for McDonalds - at one point, they make a great hullaballo about getting rid of trans fat from their oil but a year later, they sneak trans fat back without the public knowledge. That's McDonalds for you.

     I doubt most people even know what trans fat is, never being aware that KFC and McDonalds food is full of the disease-causing toxin.  The nature of the havoc they wreak on people is not widespread knowledge, suffice to say it is a known carcinogen linked to various horrible diseases such as breast cancer, brain tumours, Alzhemer's disease, and heart disease (what's bad for the heart is bad for the brain).  Trans fats perform freaky molecular physics on your flesh. Would you like to poison a child with that? Just give the child a cookie.  No wonder so many kids are so messed-up.

[/DIV]Trans fat is not the same as plain fat.  Trans fat is molecularly altered and rarely occurs in nature.  It should be outlawed.

    The fact is it will take a long time for result of trans fat to do harm in ppl. Like the tobacco companies, you're fighting against corporations with tons of power and money. I do see lawsuits happening in the future but then it might be too late by then to those who suffered.

  Bottom line as Adam points out, trans fat should be outlawed. There are better alternatives out there and corporations and government do have responsibilities to keep the public safe.
       
 

Here's what you can do to avoid trans fat as much as possible:   [H3]Fat Tips[/H3] Here are some practical tips you can use every day to keep your consumption of saturated fat, trans fat, and cholesterol low while consuming a nutritionally adequate diet.

 [UL class=mainlist] [LI]Check the Nutrition Facts panel to compare foods because the serving sizes are generally consistent in similar types of foods. Choose foods lower in saturated fat, trans fat, and cholesterol. For saturated fat and cholesterol, keep in mind that 5 percent of the daily value (%DV) or less is low and 20 percent or more is high. (There is no %DV for trans fat.)  [LI]Choose alternative fats. Replace saturated and trans fats in your diet with monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats. These fats do not raise LDL cholesterol levels and have health benefits when eaten in moderation. Sources of monounsaturated fats include olive and canola oils.  [LI]Sources of polyunsaturated fats include soybean oil, corn oil, sunflower oil and foods like nuts and fish.  [LI]Choose vegetable oils (except coconut and palm kernel oils) and soft margarines (liquid, tub, or spray) more often because the amounts of saturated fat, trans fat, and cholesterol are lower than the amounts in solid shortenings, hard margarines, and animal fats, including butter.  [LI]Consider fish. Most fish are lower in saturated fat than meat. Some fish, such as mackerel, sardines, and salmon, contain omega-3 fatty acids, which are being studied to determine if they offer protection against heart disease.  [LI]Choose lean meats, such as poultry without the skin and not fried and lean beef and pork, not fried, with visible fat trimmed.  [LI]Ask before you order when eating out. A good tip to remember is to ask which fats are being used in the preparation of your food when eating or ordering out.  [LI]Watch calories. Don't be fooled! Fats are high in calories. All sources of fat contain 9 calories per gram, making fat the most concentrated source of calories. By comparison, carbohydrates and protein have only 4 calories per gram. [/LI][/UL] To keep your intake of saturated fat, trans fat, and cholesterol low:

 [UL class=mainlist] [LI]Look at the Nutrition Facts panel when comparing products. Choose foods low in the combined amount of saturated fat and trans fat and low in cholesterol as part of a nutritionally adequate diet.  [LI]Substitute alternative fats that are higher in mono- and polyunsaturated fats like olive oil, canola oil, soybean oil, corn oil, and sunflower oil. [/LI][/UL] Source: [A href="vny!://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2003/503_fats.html"]vny!://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2003/503_fats.html[/A]

KFC is garbage! All fast food is. Stay Away from garbage and garbage won't won't be in your blood! Simple!

Exactly !  Couldn't have said it better myself.  (lawwd knows I was trying).

  (Hi CK...[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c010.gif" border=0])

It seems to me, that with the billions of dollars spent on studying these things, for every thing they tell you is GOOD for you, someone will counter it with why it's BAD for you.  Salmon (seafood in general) contains all sorts of healthy nutrients, but is high in cholesterol.  Strike the salmon.  Eggs (once considered 'the perfect food') is also high in cholesterol.  Strike the eggs.  Vegetables..... how can you knock veggies.  Well some have tried....can carry salmonella.  Strike the veggies.

  Dairy......once considered to be rich in calcium to build strong bones and teeth.  Now they say cow's milk and other dairy products are behind an array of illnesses, including cancers, heart disease, diabetes, osteoporosis and obesity according to some doctors. Strike the dairy.

  Meat.....one day beef is good for you, the next it's not.  Red meat, white meat, pink meat ????? Don't cook your food on the grill....it causes cancer.  Strike the summer time.

  The list is endless....coffee...good/coffee bad.  Wine good/wine bad..................Bahhhhhh!!!!!!

  I figure I've exchanged anguishing over every mouthfull, for a more stress free existance....that's got to be good for me.    

[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]I'm thinking it would be far more effective to legislate stupidity.  It's simply a matter of awareness.  It's already legislated that ingredients must be listed.....the choice then becomes the consumers.[/span]

I'm afraid I have to weigh in on Miss P.C.'s side here. The question isn't whether this type of food is unhealthy, it's whether the government has the right to make it illegal, and there is a world of difference. While we may all agree that KFC food is shitty for your health, they aren't breaking any laws and they are abiding by the rules of supply and demand. North Americans demand crappy, high-fat foods and KFC supplies them.

I'm not a big fan of the slippery slope argument, but if we start banning things like trans fat using the argument that the public is too ignorant to choose their own foods, it would only make sense to also ban cigarettes, as their negative effects are well known. And then perhaps alcohol.

As has already been touched on, public education campaigns seem to make a lot more sense than government bans on food products IMO. I don't see why our freedom of choice should end when it comes to dietary issues. I say citizens should have the right to make the wrong choice, even if it ends up shortening their lives.
   

I'm afraid I have to weigh in on Miss P.C.'s side here.

  Don't be afraid, tenkani.  [img title=Realbighug alt=Realbighug src="vny!://forum.digital-digest.com/images/smilies/1/realbighug.gif" border=0]

tenkani wrote: The question isn't whether this type of food is unhealthy, it's whether the government has the right to make it illegal, and there is a world of difference.

  THAT'S MY SENTIMENTS IN A NUTSHELL !!!

The government seems to be filling in the gaps where our common sense used to be.....basically they are thinking FOR us.  I don't know about anyone else, but that's a frightening direction to me.

If we were to respond to every negative study on different foods, we would eventually have to lock ourselves in a cellar, (sunlight is bad for you, too) and starve since there would be nothing safe to eat.  I try to eat nutritious food, but I refuse to obsess over every mouthful.

The only advice that never seems to change is eat in moderation and get lots of exercise.
Live by that and you will probably be Ok regardless of diet fads and shifting scientific opinion.
Argh! All this food talk is killing me but I'm going to hold out until noon!!  
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Poor starving tenkani!  At least chomp on a dry noodle to tide you over to lunch time.    (//vny!://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/10.gif)