Posted by Dissident
- Jun 23 06 09:07 Lise wrote:
there are temples in India where rats are considered sacred where they're fed and worshipped everyday.
Rats Rule at Indian Temple Article: [a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html"][font size="1"]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html[/font][/a]
Remember that Tori Amos video where she was singing about God and had rats crawling all over her?
Used to make me shudder every time I would see it.
there are temples in India where rats are considered sacred where they're fed and worshipped everyday.
Rats Rule at Indian Temple Article: [a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html"][font size="1"]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html[/font][/a]
Remember that Tori Amos video where she was singing about God and had rats crawling all over her?
Used to make me shudder every time I would see it.
Posted by 49er
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These are some of the 1,000 rats confiscated from a 67-year-old man's rented Petaluma home. Chronicle photo by Kurt Rogers [/FONT]
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Posted by Lise
- Jun 23 06 08:42That's nothing. I've seen documentaries in Australia that show rat problems in the outback. And yes, they have more than 1,000 rats.
Not to mention there are temples in India where rats are considered sacred where they're fed and worshipped everyday.
Rats Rule at Indian Temple Article: [A href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html"][FONT size=1]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html[/FONT][/A]
Not to mention there are temples in India where rats are considered sacred where they're fed and worshipped everyday.
Rats Rule at Indian Temple Article: [A href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html"][FONT size=1]http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0628_040628_tvrats.html[/FONT][/A]
Posted by Moolah!
- Jun 23 06 04:59Hey don't knock it till you try it...
Posted by TehBorken
- Jun 23 06 02:10 Some Chick wrote: [div style="font-style: italic;"]I got a cat to take care of the mouse problem, trapped a few in traditional mouse traps, caught some and made them swim in the sink till they were tired enough to be manageable and I could toss them outside. (They were in my toaster so I dumped them in the sink).[/div]
[span style="color: rgb(0, 96, 191);"]<homer>[/span]
"Mmmmm....toasted rat...mmmmmmm....."
[span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 255);"]</homer>[/span]
[span style="color: rgb(0, 96, 191);"]<homer>[/span]
"Mmmmm....toasted rat...mmmmmmm....."
[span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 255);"]</homer>[/span]
Posted by Some Chick
- Jun 23 06 11:54I once lived in a beautiful log house on 75 acres in the country. The people that lived there before had no cat and the place was infested with mice and rats.
I got a cat to take care of the mouse problem, trapped a few in traditional mouse traps, caught some and made them swim in the sink till they were tired enough to be manageable and I could toss them outside. (They were in my toaster so I dumped them in the sink).
One night I had to kill a rat on my own. It went into a cupboard and when it came out, I had to slam the door on it's head and hold it there till it died. My daughter was 2 at the time and I couldn't handle the idea that she might get bitten. Eventually, over the course of months of poison in the attic, one on one murder rampages, and strategically placed peanut buttered traps, they lost the war.
The problem I had is that I really think they're cute and I felt quite bad. I just don't want them in my house.
I got a cat to take care of the mouse problem, trapped a few in traditional mouse traps, caught some and made them swim in the sink till they were tired enough to be manageable and I could toss them outside. (They were in my toaster so I dumped them in the sink).
One night I had to kill a rat on my own. It went into a cupboard and when it came out, I had to slam the door on it's head and hold it there till it died. My daughter was 2 at the time and I couldn't handle the idea that she might get bitten. Eventually, over the course of months of poison in the attic, one on one murder rampages, and strategically placed peanut buttered traps, they lost the war.
The problem I had is that I really think they're cute and I felt quite bad. I just don't want them in my house.
Posted by Gopher
- Jun 23 06 11:46TehBorken wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]49er wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]1,000 rats found in Petaluma home
[/SPAN][/SPAN][A href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/22/MNGFDJJ61J16.DTL"][/A][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]I'm confused- Wikipedia says there are only 535 Members of Congress, not 1,000. (??)[/SPAN]
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[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]The simple answer to this is that they breed like - rats?
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[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]49er wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]1,000 rats found in Petaluma home
[/SPAN][/SPAN][A href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/22/MNGFDJJ61J16.DTL"][/A][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]I'm confused- Wikipedia says there are only 535 Members of Congress, not 1,000. (??)[/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"][/SPAN]
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]The simple answer to this is that they breed like - rats?
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"][/SPAN]
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Posted by TehBorken
- Jun 23 06 07:32[span style="font-weight: normal;"]49er wrote:
1,000 rats found in Petaluma home
[/span][a href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/22/MNGFDJJ61J16.DTL"][/a][span style="font-weight: normal;"]I'm confused- Wikipedia says there are only 535 Members of Congress, not 1,000. (??)
[/span]
1,000 rats found in Petaluma home
[/span][a href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/22/MNGFDJJ61J16.DTL"][/a][span style="font-weight: normal;"]I'm confused- Wikipedia says there are only 535 Members of Congress, not 1,000. (??)
[/span]
Posted by Moolah!
- Jun 23 06 12:33> He kept as many as 50 rats in each of the 30-by-24 inch cages -- crowded conditions, but most of his pets were otherwise well-fed and cared for, Tavares said.
[A href="jvascript:insert_sticker_code_main(':x', 'replyArea')"][img alt=:x src="http://www.spymac.com/upload/stickers/standard_set/gross.gif" border=0][/A] Sounds like Guantanamo
... except prisoners aren't fed as well.
[A href="jvascript:insert_sticker_code_main(':x', 'replyArea')"][img alt=:x src="http://www.spymac.com/upload/stickers/standard_set/gross.gif" border=0][/A] Sounds like Guantanamo
... except prisoners aren't fed as well.
Posted by Dissident
- Jun 22 06 10:29This is what's behind most landlords' "no-pets" policy.
I was an apartment manager on Russian Hill. It was bad enough dealing with cat urine on hardwood floors after a tenant snuck a pet in. But this is [span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"]disgusting[/span].
I was an apartment manager on Russian Hill. It was bad enough dealing with cat urine on hardwood floors after a tenant snuck a pet in. But this is [span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"]disgusting[/span].
Posted by 49er
- Jun 22 06 10:23[A href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/22/MNGFDJJ61J16.DTL"]1,000 rats found in Petaluma home[/A] [FONT size=2][/FONT]
[FONT face=geneva,arial size=1]- [A href="mailto:[email protected]"]Cicero A. Estrella and Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff Writers[/A]
[/FONT][FONT face=geneva,arial size=-2]Thursday, June 22, 2006
[/FONT] (06-22) 21:38 PDT -- Petaluma animal control workers expected to find a horde of cats when they knocked on the door of a 67-year-old man whose neighbor complained of stench. Instead, they stumbled onto a scene straight out the movie, "Willard." About 1,000 pet rats -- ranging from 3-year-old adults to little, pink newborns -- shared the one-room house with Roger Dier. Dier kept nearly all of his small furry friends in about 20 huge cages that he lined up around the room. About 20 of his rats were running around loose, said Nancee Tavares, Petaluma Animal Services manager. He also shared the place with seven cats. "His bed was in the middle of the room, and there was food, cat litter and who knows what else all over the floor," Tavares said. Whatever else was on the floor wafted into the noses of neighbors, who complained to animal services about what they thought was the smell of cat urine coming from Dier's house. When Dier opened the door to the Animal Services workers on Tuesday, he told them that he had only seven cats, but added that he did own "a lot of rats," Tavares said. Animal Services confiscated the rodents Tuesday and spent about $1,000 dollars for cages that are serving as temporary homes at the animal shelter. Dier was cited for misdemeanor animal cruelty. He kept as many as 50 rats in each of the 30-by-24 inch cages -- crowded conditions, but most of his pets were otherwise well-fed and cared for, Tavares said. "He made some attempt to segregate the males from the females, but he just became overwhelmed," Tavares said. Dier also purchased about 250 pounds of rat food every week, she said. Neighbors described Dier as a quiet man who sometimes worked a computer-related job at night. They said he lived in the home -- one of four in a complex -- on the 800 block of Bodega Avenue for 17 years, and sometimes, they added, he didn't have enough money to pay for electricity. Dier's landlord, Saverio DiTomaso, said he recently sold the four-house complex because of the headaches that Dier and the rats have caused. "I could smell the piss from the cats, and then when I saw the rats I went berserk," DiTomaso said. "I didn't want to report him though because I felt sorry for him." DiTomaso said Dier promised to get rid of the rats. About two weeks ago DiTomaso went against his policy and entered Dier's house. He found that the rats had dug holes through the basement to the yard outside. "I think it was a dirty trick because I trusted him," DiTomaso said. "I knew there were cats, but rats?" Neighbor Dave Blake said he killed one of the rats, which strayed too close to his home. "I can't envision anybody living like that because I hate rats," Blake said. Animal Services will put the adolescent male rats up for adoption for $5 each starting Tuesday. They will put the females up for adoption in 21 days -- their usual gestation period -- to make sure they aren't pregnant. About 70 rats were euthanized because they were sick or injured, Tavares said. That leaves the shelter with more than 900 rats. Tavares doesn't expect many will be adopted. Those that are not adopted will be euthanized, she said. "They're not that popular," she said. "But they're nice pets, believe it or not. They're very social, they like to ride on their owner's shoulder." Tavares hopes Dier, whom she described as a "classic hoarder," doesn't face any charges or additional citations. She hopes he will submit to mandatory monitoring by Animal Services and be allowed to keep no more than two rats. "Hoarders have a 100 percent rate of recidivism unless some action is taken," she said. Petaluma animal control workers have experience dealing with hoarders. In 2001, they found 196 cats living inside a Petaluma home owned by a San Francisco resident, Marilyn Barletta. Anyone interested in adopting a rat can reach Petaluma Animal Services at 707-778-4396. E-mail the reporters at [A href="mailto:[email protected]"][email protected][/A] and [A href="mailto:[email protected]"][email protected][/A].
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[FONT face=geneva,arial size=1]- [A href="mailto:[email protected]"]Cicero A. Estrella and Peter Fimrite, Chronicle Staff Writers[/A]
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[/FONT] (06-22) 21:38 PDT -- Petaluma animal control workers expected to find a horde of cats when they knocked on the door of a 67-year-old man whose neighbor complained of stench. Instead, they stumbled onto a scene straight out the movie, "Willard." About 1,000 pet rats -- ranging from 3-year-old adults to little, pink newborns -- shared the one-room house with Roger Dier. Dier kept nearly all of his small furry friends in about 20 huge cages that he lined up around the room. About 20 of his rats were running around loose, said Nancee Tavares, Petaluma Animal Services manager. He also shared the place with seven cats. "His bed was in the middle of the room, and there was food, cat litter and who knows what else all over the floor," Tavares said. Whatever else was on the floor wafted into the noses of neighbors, who complained to animal services about what they thought was the smell of cat urine coming from Dier's house. When Dier opened the door to the Animal Services workers on Tuesday, he told them that he had only seven cats, but added that he did own "a lot of rats," Tavares said. Animal Services confiscated the rodents Tuesday and spent about $1,000 dollars for cages that are serving as temporary homes at the animal shelter. Dier was cited for misdemeanor animal cruelty. He kept as many as 50 rats in each of the 30-by-24 inch cages -- crowded conditions, but most of his pets were otherwise well-fed and cared for, Tavares said. "He made some attempt to segregate the males from the females, but he just became overwhelmed," Tavares said. Dier also purchased about 250 pounds of rat food every week, she said. Neighbors described Dier as a quiet man who sometimes worked a computer-related job at night. They said he lived in the home -- one of four in a complex -- on the 800 block of Bodega Avenue for 17 years, and sometimes, they added, he didn't have enough money to pay for electricity. Dier's landlord, Saverio DiTomaso, said he recently sold the four-house complex because of the headaches that Dier and the rats have caused. "I could smell the piss from the cats, and then when I saw the rats I went berserk," DiTomaso said. "I didn't want to report him though because I felt sorry for him." DiTomaso said Dier promised to get rid of the rats. About two weeks ago DiTomaso went against his policy and entered Dier's house. He found that the rats had dug holes through the basement to the yard outside. "I think it was a dirty trick because I trusted him," DiTomaso said. "I knew there were cats, but rats?" Neighbor Dave Blake said he killed one of the rats, which strayed too close to his home. "I can't envision anybody living like that because I hate rats," Blake said. Animal Services will put the adolescent male rats up for adoption for $5 each starting Tuesday. They will put the females up for adoption in 21 days -- their usual gestation period -- to make sure they aren't pregnant. About 70 rats were euthanized because they were sick or injured, Tavares said. That leaves the shelter with more than 900 rats. Tavares doesn't expect many will be adopted. Those that are not adopted will be euthanized, she said. "They're not that popular," she said. "But they're nice pets, believe it or not. They're very social, they like to ride on their owner's shoulder." Tavares hopes Dier, whom she described as a "classic hoarder," doesn't face any charges or additional citations. She hopes he will submit to mandatory monitoring by Animal Services and be allowed to keep no more than two rats. "Hoarders have a 100 percent rate of recidivism unless some action is taken," she said. Petaluma animal control workers have experience dealing with hoarders. In 2001, they found 196 cats living inside a Petaluma home owned by a San Francisco resident, Marilyn Barletta. Anyone interested in adopting a rat can reach Petaluma Animal Services at 707-778-4396. E-mail the reporters at [A href="mailto:[email protected]"][email protected][/A] and [A href="mailto:[email protected]"][email protected][/A].
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