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Title: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Van on Mar 10 08 12:22
 [H3]I still don't see "Sex crimes against young boys" on the list. Give me a break!! [/H3] [H3][A href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080310/vatican_sins_080310/20080310?hub=TopStories"][FONT size=2]http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080310/vatican_sins_080310/20080310?hub=TopStories[/FONT][/A][/H3] [H3]Vatican lists new sins for a new century[/H3] [P class=timeStamp]Updated Mon. Mar. 10 2008 2:20 PM ET

 [P class=storyAttributes]CTV.ca News Staff

 The Vatican has unveiled some new sins for the 21st century, such as genetic manipulation, pollution and social injustice.

 Archbishop Gianfranco Girotti, the Vatican's number-two official for sins and penance, told L'Osservatore Romano that he saw bioethics as posing the greatest risks for the human soul.

 "(Within bioethics) there are areas where we absolutely must denounce some violations of the fundamental rights of human nature through experiments and genetic manipulation whose outcome is difficult to predict and control," he told the Vatican's official newspaper on Sunday in an interview headlined "New Forms of Social Sin."

 The Roman Catholic Church has previously spoken out against stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, believing that life begins at conception.

 Girotti also attacked drugs, saying they "weaken the mind and obscure intelligence."

 On the growing gap between rich and poor, he said it causes "an unbearable social injustice."

 Pope Benedict has made several strong statements on the environment in recent months, saying problems like climate change had become critical to humanity's future.

 Catholicism has two basic types of sin: Venial, which are relatively less important and forgivable, and mortal. T

 Mortal sin can include acts like abortion and murder, although the church doesn't keep a well-defined list.

 Mortal sins can cause a person to go to Hell unless confessed to a priest, who then absolves the sinner in God's name.

 With files from The Associated Press

Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Sportsdude on Mar 10 08 12:42
or taking over churches because they make millions, excommunicating people for political beliefs, my way or the highway bible thumping destroying society. I kept telling the hard liners that they're dangerously close for the catholic church to blow up in their face like it did in Quebec in the 60's. Especially in St. Louis with the fascist arch bishop who thinks he's god threatening to excommunicate people because of political views.
(churches now hand out bulletins on how to vote and vote for who, deny democrats the right to communion, excommunicate priests who go against heirarchy)

lol if the Quebec situation happened to me and I came from a liberal church, liberal background etc which doesn't fit the usual profile of (oppressed ultra conservative upbringing grows to hate it, turns away from the religion) scenario. It's most certainly going to happen en mass in north america.
 
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Gopher on Mar 10 08 12:45
When will the come out with a list of present day virtues ? Such as: selfishness, mendacity, lying, cheating, war-mongering, racism, sexism, capitalism etc. etc.  
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: P.C. on Mar 10 08 01:02
And let's not forget bad spelling. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a060.gif" border=0]
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Gopher on Mar 10 08 01:04
And foul language.
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: P.C. on Mar 10 08 01:09
Foul language is a sin ?    %*#$ !!!!
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Gopher on Mar 10 08 01:12
No, my point is that it seems to have turned itself into a present day virtue.(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/3.gif)  
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: P.C. on Mar 10 08 01:18
I'm not a huge cusser.  Well....except when I'm golfing.  Or if I spill something...or maybe when I hit my thumb with a hammer.  On occasion if I see something bad on the news.  Sometimes if I burn something when I'm cooking and once in a blue moon when I can't find the mate to a sock.  Once or twice if I read something shocking and every now and then when I open the bills.  I've been known to let one fly when it rains.  But other than that, I don't swear. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/n020.gif" border=0]
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: P.C. on Mar 10 08 01:22
.........oh....and when my computer is slow or if my cat scratches my couch.  And MAYBE if someone is driving too close behind me or if there's too much exhaust coming out of their vehicle.  Stale bread sometimes does it too.  ........and when I can't find the scissors or the tape. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/a035.gif" border=0]
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Van on Mar 10 08 01:37
I find I swear most when I hear about Catholic virtues..

Or if I see the Popes face in the news or in a newspaper "G** da*m F*%$^%&*8#%$!!"
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Michel on Mar 10 08 01:52
   
 
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: purelife on Mar 10 08 02:10
Michel wrote:
Back East I swear terribly, [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"]here no[/FONT], nobody ever reproached me swearing. Oh wait, yeah right nobody understand lol

 


What a bunch of (*#(#*$&$%*&^$%*&$#^%*&$^%(&(&$%(ê6º4~~!~!!!  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/8.gif)
 
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Van on Mar 10 08 02:36
By "Back East", do you mean Banff??(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/10.gif)
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Michel on Mar 10 08 02:48
     
 
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Sportsdude on Mar 10 08 04:14
oh oh what about the sin of being a nazi pope! ah ah  
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Van on Mar 11 08 08:05
It is a sin to be wealthy too now! Wow! The Pope must be Satan himself!?? (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/4.gif)

  I hope I am not offending too many people on here. Don't really care if I do though, that is how strong I feel against the Catholic religion.

  Jesus seems like a cool cat, I am sure he is not impressed either!
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Gopher on Mar 11 08 11:52
I'm sure he isn't either. The fundamentalists and some of the more dictatorial mainstream churches are crucifying him over and over again every day.
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Van on Mar 11 08 11:54
Good point Gopher. Like those two on TV. The girl has big hair, and the man looks like a reverend pervert? Blabbing on about the End Times....selling books and videos for lots of $$$$, etc.

I forget the name of them? They are creepy.
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Gopher on Mar 11 08 12:00
I don't know them, but I certainly know the type.
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: P.C. on Mar 11 08 12:03
Never ceases to amaze me that there are still people left that can't see through these type.
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Gopher on Mar 11 08 12:07
purelife wrote:
 


What a bunch of (*#(#*$&$%*&^$%*&$#^%*&$^%(&(&$%(ê6º4~~!~!!!  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/8.gif)  .................

 

 That's right Purelife, you tell it like it is!


 
 
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: P.C. on Mar 11 08 12:16
I always like a straight-talker.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c008.gif" border=0]
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Van on Mar 11 08 12:28
Jack Van Impe is the show I am thinking of.  This dude is scarier than the actual thought of the world ending!

[A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Van_Impe#Jack_Van_Impe_Ministries"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Van_Impe#Jack_Van_Impe_Ministries[/A]
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: P.C. on Mar 11 08 12:30
Jack Van Pimpe ?
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Van on Mar 11 08 12:33
Here is one of his quotes: "1974 is the year that they´re now planning for sex on the streets on every major city from coast to coast. And get ready for shock: the music that they´re planning to use to crumble the morals of America is this rotten filthy dirty lascivious junk called rock and roll. It isn´t just the lyrics, it´s the beat."



That darn Rock and/or Roll!!!
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Gopher on Mar 11 08 12:34
Take off the 'e', and the surname says it all.    
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Sportsdude on Mar 11 08 03:48
 P.C. wrote:
Never ceases to amaze me that there are still people left that can't see through these type.

well considering there's about 25 million "evangelicals" or so I think in the states, is shocking enough. Considering, american evangelicalism started from televangelism which was shown to be a sham with PTL club back in the 80's. Yet, it lives on. Olsteen and his "happy gospel" the guy has a smile on his face 24/7 because he's got it made. Say some happy stuff every week, rake in the millions. Then say "oh the church gave me this private jet so I could spread the good news" etc. lol

Falwell went above and beyond really, he's got his own university.

 
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Lil Me on Mar 11 08 03:55
  Sportsdude wrote:

well considering there's about 25 million "evangelicals" or so I think in the states, is shocking enough. Considering, american evangelicalism started from televangelism
 
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 Uh no.  American evangelism really took off the mid-1800s with tent revival meetings.  It's the same movement that sparked the CCF/NDP Party and the United Church in Saskatchewan.
 
 Evangelism is a personal way of life  (personal relationship with God - without a priest or pope as an intermediary).  Has nothing to do with televangelism.
 
 
 
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Lil Me on Mar 11 08 04:05
Btw, I don't buy any Joel Olsteen, Oprah, The Secret, Celestine Prophecy, etc.
 But I think it's apperciated by those who choose to partake in it.
 
   
Title: Re: Updated Sins for the 21st century
Post by: Sportsdude on Mar 11 08 04:13
 I'm not talking about that evangelicalism.

when you say " evangelicals" in the united states as of now, that's jerry falwell/pat robertson types. then it goes into focus on the family, right to life groups, aids is punishment from god for the gays, environmentalism is satan worship. etc.

bush won '04 because of evangelicals voting en mass for him because of gay marriage bans in most of the united states. They're the voters who are close minded, have a very small world view, only go to the polls on social issues (the three g's) and they have bumper stickers, telling the world who they are. Then they inflitrate your schools, universities communities, with their hate groups.