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Title: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Nov 30 08 03:25

Heres the linky:
http://beta.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?CatID=National&ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/n113049A.xml

[span id="FullStoryHeadline"]Tories toss policy, release secret tapes to dodge defeat[/span][div id="FullStoryPhotoDiv" class="ptFSPhoto"][img id="FullStoryPhoto" src="http://ptimage.infospace.com.edgesuite.net/images/news/cap/national-n113049A.jpg"][/div][div id="FullStoryDateLineDiv" class="ptFSDateLine"][span id="FullStoryDateLine"]at 17:34 on November 30, 2008, EDT.[/span][/div][div id="FullStoryDateTimeDiv" class="ptFSDateLine"][span id="FullStoryDateTime"][div class="StorePanelDate"]11/30/2008 12:00:00 AM[/div][/span][/div][div id="FullStoryByLineDiv" class="ptFSByLine"][span id="FullStoryByLine"]Bruce Cheadle, THE CANADIAN PRESS[/span][/div][span id="FullStoryText"] OTTAWA - The Conservative government bumped up the federal budget date, scrapped a second controversial element of its economic plan and hinted at a stimulus plan Sunday in a frantic bid to save itself from being toppled.

 And that was only the beginning of a tumultuous day of political intrigue in Canada's capital.

 Finance Minister Jim Flaherty announced the budget will be delivered on Jan. 27 - "the earliest date in modern times" - while he simultaneously relented on a plan to ban public service strikes.

 But the Conservatives were not just playing defence.

 They covertly taped an NDP conference call in which Leader Jack Layton spoke of plotting with the Bloc Quebecois to bring down the government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper even before the economic update.

 After waiting a day, the Prime Minister's Office released the tape and pointed to it as proof of an NDP-Bloc conspiracy hatched long before the government produced its fall financial blueprint.

 The New Democrats - who apparently inadvertently provided the call's co-ordinates to a Tory - responded by saying nothing in the NDP-BQ talks is anything different than the contingency planning Harper himself engaged in with the two parties during the last Liberal minority in 2004.

 And NDP MP Thomas Mulcair said his party will be "examining the possible application of the Criminal Code" in the Tories' clandestine recording and distribution of the private meeting.

 He said the extraordinary event "shows the desperation of the Conservatives."

 It capped a weekend of dramatic reversals.

 Flaherty said the provocative, three-year strike ban in the fiscal update is now "unnecessary" because a settlement had been reached covering minimal wage increases for the vast majority of public service workers.

 "So our view is that it's not necessary, given what has happened in terms of the agreement so far, to proceed with that."

 The wage agreement came three days before Flaherty delivered the fall update last week.

 The government dropped its incendiary plan to strip public, per-vote financing from political parties on Saturday, a move that would have financially crippled the Conservative's political opponents.

 In a conference call Sunday with media, Flaherty refused to characterize the moves as concessions in the face of opposition negotiations to form a coalition government.

 "It's a reaction to the reality . . . of the global financial crisis and the fact that Canada's not an island and is being buffeted by this," Flaherty said in response to a question about what's motivating the Harper government to change course.

 "We need stability. We need to take a longer term view and we need to consult widely. That's the paramount concern."

 But opposition parties say they've also been hearing from Canadians, and nothing in the government's weekend climbdown changes the dynamic of a Parliament that has been poisoned.

 Liberal MP Scott Brison, his party's finance critic, said the putative coalition partners are being "overwhelmed" by supporters and non-partisans alike "in support of us moving forward and building an alternative government."

 "Nothing in Jim Flaherty's offer changes anything," said Brison.

 He said the absence of a firm economic plan coupled with what he called the government's refusal to come clean on looming budgetary deficits in the fiscal update make a Conservative-lead government untenable.

 "It's very hard to work with a prime minister and a finance minister we don't trust."

 A spokesman for the Bloc agreed, noting the government is still refusing to provide a stimulus plan for the economy.

 Harper's government was clearly taking the threat of its demise seriously.

 Flaherty wouldn't tip his hand on whether any big bailouts are in the works, but he did suggest a targeted "temporary, one-time" stimulus package is likely.

 "Will we have to help a particular (business) sector, or more than one particular sector? The answer is probably yes," said Flaherty.

 The prime minister, his cabinet and senior officials scrambled all weekend to derail opposition negotiations to supplant the Conservatives with a Liberal-NDP coalition supported by the Bloc.

 The Tories are also using the crisis to issue an "emergency" funding appeal to their donorship base.

 A Liberal-NDP coalition, supported by the Bloc Quebecois, shows the "Liberals are trying to take power through the back door," said the mass email from Irving Gerstein, chairman of the Conservative Fund Canada.

 Gerstein appealed for donations of $200 or $100 - "whatever you can afford to protect . . . Canada's democracy from being hijacked by politicians who care about nothing more than power and entitlements."

 The Conservative's claim that a coalition government would have no legitimacy does not accord with Harper's own position on the matter just four years ago.

 In September 2004, Harper wrote to then-governor general Adrienne Clarkson to argue that she should "consider all your options" if the Liberal minority of Paul Martin was to fall on a confidence vote.

 "We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation," Harper wrote.

 Harper co-signed the letter with NDP Leader Jack Layton and Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe.



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Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: stretchedout on Dec 01 08 10:30
So why not save us the thousand word post and just post the link properly?

  [A href="http://beta.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?CatID=National&ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/n113049A.xml"]http://beta.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?CatID=National&ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/n113049A.xml[/A]  
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 06:38
How did you post the link properly?

I used to be able to, but like I mentioned numerous times over the past few months, I cant anymore.

Ive always posted the link first, and then most if not part of the article afterwards.

 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 06:41
 stretchedout wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]So why not save us the thousand word post and just post the link properly?[/div] [div style="font-style: italic;"] [/div] [a  href="http://beta.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?CatID=National&ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/n113049A.xml"]http://beta.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?CatID=National&ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/n113049A.xml[/a]


Did you just smite me again for this? LOLOLOL, and you accused me of acting like a child.


 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 08:19
TEST:

  [A href="http://beta.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?CatID=National&ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/n113049A.xml"]http://beta.mytelus.com/telusen/portal/NewsChannel.aspx?CatID=National&ArticleID=news/capfeed/national/n113049A.xml[/A]

    You know.. I just figured out why. Im using FF and I havent been able to post links properly for a while.. I just got reminded about another problem I had and tried IE. It works.    
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Michel on Dec 01 08 08:26
   
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 08:30
Michel wrote:
Ah this explain why I coloured your world DSers. I use Firefox too.

 [META content="text/html; charset=utf-8" XXXX-EQUIV="Content-Type"] [META content=Word.Document name=ProgId] [META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Generator] [META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Originator][LINK href="file:///C:/Users/User1/AppData/Local/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_filelist.xml" rel=File-List] [STYLE] [!--  /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal    (mso-style-parent:"";    margin:0in;    margin-bottom:.0001pt;    mso-pagination:widow-orphan;    :12.0pt;    font-family:"Times New Roman";    mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";    mso-ansi-language:EN-CA;) a:link, span.MsoHyperlink    (color:blue;    text-decoration:underline;    text-underline:single;) a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed    (color:purple;    text-decoration:underline;    text-underline:single;) @page Section1    (size:8.5in 11.0in;    margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;    mso-header-margin:.5in;    mso-footer-margin:.5in;    mso-paper-source:0;) div.Section1    (page:Section1;) --] [/STYLE] [SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-FAMILY: ; 12pt: " Roman?;? New Times][A href="http://itorganization2017.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/recession.gif"]http://itorganization2017.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/recession.gif[/A][/SPAN]

 Evening Michel.. nice pic!

  Really? And you posted that just by copying the link in the window address thingy at teh top of the page?

Im going to change to FF to try this.
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 08:33
test:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/politics/story.html?id=1017301


 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 08:34
 Russ wrote:
test:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/politics/story.html?id=1017301

Blast it. <sigh>. Off to mr google I go.
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Michel on Dec 01 08 08:36
     
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: P.C. on Dec 01 08 08:47
[FONT color=#ff007f]I'd [/FONT][FONT color=#80ff00]sure [/FONT][FONT color=#0000ff]like[/FONT] [FONT color=#ff7f00]to[/FONT] [FONT color=#6000bf]know[/FONT].  
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Michel on Dec 01 08 08:51
       
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 08:56
I tired searching but it didnt tell me what I wanted..

HOW OH HOW great Michel.. do I post a link in FF to another site...
please?

I detest using IE.
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Michel on Dec 01 08 08:59
   
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: P.C. on Dec 01 08 09:02
I just right click on the url in the address bar and copy/paste.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c028.gif" border=0]
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Orik on Dec 01 08 09:06
 i use right click copy link location then i use
get this control v to post it here on ds

[a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" href="http://news.bio-medicine.org/"]http://news.bio-medicine.org/[/a]
   
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Michel on Dec 01 08 09:09
   
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: P.C. on Dec 01 08 09:13
Mine work.    (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/4.gif)

  [A href="http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thecuteproject.com/images/news/313.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thecuteproject.com/%3Fpage%3D12&usg=__ZnwNLtexk3IPYidHpEhabToJal8=&h=336&w=450&sz=47&hl=en&start=31&sig2=uW9DJgwWIqhcCjrlyikjfQ&um=1&tbnid=UPZC6OXtt5lBaM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=127&ei=l8M0SYexF5-0sQOK6dj-BQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSticking%2Btongue%2Bout%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGGLC,GGLC:1969-53,GGLC:en%26sa%3DN"]http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thecuteproject.com/images/news/313.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thecuteproject.com/%3Fpage%3D12&usg=__ZnwNLtexk3IPYidHpEhabToJal8=&h=336&w=450&sz=47&hl=en&start=31&sig2=uW9DJgwWIqhcCjrlyikjfQ&um=1&tbnid=UPZC6OXtt5lBaM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=127&ei=l8M0SYexF5-0sQOK6dj-BQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSticking%2Btongue%2Bout%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGGLC,GGLC:1969-53,GGLC:en%26sa%3DN[/A]
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 09:16
 P.C. wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]I just right click on the url in the address bar and copy/paste.  [img style="cursor: pointer;" onclick="url(this.src);" src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c028.gif[/img][/div]
Thats what I did in IE, adn then continued doing when I started using FireFox after getting a new laptop and hating IE immensely.

EDIT: See See! It doesnt work for Orik either!

EDIT EDIT: hey orik.. on another note, I cant find the link I used to have to a site you posted a long time ago for changing your ip. I dont supposed you still have a link to a site that will do that for you.. do you? I think I got the link off you on DV.. the real DV that is, lol.
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 09:22
 Michel wrote:
It's annoying, I just copy my link in Word than cut and paste it here.  



 
 Fawk me that worked great. I am completely lost and confused as to that working. I feel like someone that has seen something for the first time and feels its like magic.
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Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Michel on Dec 01 08 09:25
   
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Sportsdude on Dec 01 08 09:29
bahaha.

well my bike looks good as new.  My foray into sweat equity is totally ruined the Canadian GDP in bike cleaners. lol
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Orik on Dec 01 08 09:42
EDIT EDIT: hey orik.. on another note, I cant find the link I used to have to a site you posted a long time ago for changing your ip. I dont supposed you still have a link to a site that will do that for you.. do you? I think I got the link off you on DV.. the real DV that is, lol.

sorry russ i lost that link to ages past i dont keep them for long only when they were needed sorry old shoe

[a href="http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/how-do-I-change-my-ip-address"][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]ip change 1[/span][/a]

[a style="color: rgb(128, 255, 0);" href="http://www.astahost.com/info.php/how-change-ip-address_t15826.html"]ip change 2[/a]

[a href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/316790/how_to_change_your_ip_address/"]ip change 3 [/a]

hope those r of some help


 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 09:52
 Orik wrote:
sorry russ i lost that link to ages past i dont keep them for long only when they were needed sorry old shoe

[a  href="http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/how-do-I-change-my-ip-address"][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]ip change 1[/span][/a]

[a style="color: rgb(128, 255, 0); font-style: italic;" href="http://www.astahost.com/info.php/how-change-ip-address_t15826.html"]ip change 2[/a]

[a  href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/316790/how_to_change_your_ip_address/"]ip change 3 [/a]

hope those r of some help

Thanks.. one of those I had found before, but the others look like they will help. Thanks! I just wish I had kept that link somewhere..



 
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Orik on Dec 01 08 09:53
  Michel wrote:
Of course but your links do not work and don't come with colours like mine... (//forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/13.gif)  

most of my links work just fine and yes they come in colours too

helps if i copy the right links :D

[font style="color: rgb(192, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(160, 255, 64);" size="1"][a href="http://th08.deviantart.com/images/300W/i/1/2/f/Nergal.jpg[/img]Shmeghead [/a][/font]

[a style="color: rgb(255, 64, 255);" href="http://th08.deviantart.com/images/300W/i/1/2/f/Nergal.jpg[/img]http://th08.deviantart.com/images/300W/i/1/2/f/Nergal.jpg[/a]

(http://th08.deviantart.com/images/300W/i/1/2/f/Nergal.jpg)
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 09:55
 Michel wrote:
Special powers ! Super Russ !

Actually, I think YOU are the one with special powers oh great and wonderous Michel!
 
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Michel on Dec 01 08 10:00
   
Title: Re: NDP and Bloc plot overthrow before Economic Plan
Post by: Russ on Dec 01 08 10:16
 Michel wrote:
lol, it's no longer a secret !  

shhh dont burst my bubble.
 
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