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im not a big fan of wine. cant stand the taste of beer. gimme chocolate anyday!

A glass of red, a slice of strawberry cheesecake drizzled with dark chocolate sauce..........................heaven!

I guess I didn't make it very clear, that I wasn't suggesting that you necessarily drink wine with chocolate, although kittens' suggestion sound delicious.

(Somehow I already knew your answer kitten.)[/DIV][img height=446 alt="White Chocolate Cheesecake picture" src="http://recipes.caribseek.com/Paul_Owens/images/white-chocolate-cheesecake.jpg" width=400 border=0]

yum...i love cheesecakes. i went to dine out the past month and had the best chocolate souffle ever at diva @ the met. i might have to go back there and just order the dessert!

Mmmmm, sounds yummy kingy.  Mr. P.C. makes incredible cheesecake. You name it.  He's made B-52 cheesecake, 4 cherry (4 different kinds  of cherries, not 4 lone little cherries) New York  and mucho others.  I think I'll keep Mr. P.C.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c032.gif" border=0]

With talent like that you should rent him out as a dessert chef!  People would be lining up for desserts like that.[/DIV][img onmouseover="this.style.backgroundColor='#C6D3EF';this.style.border='1px solid #3169C6'; " style="BORDER-RIGHT: #3169c6 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #3169c6 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #3169c6 1px solid; CURSOR: pointer; BORDER-BOTTOM: #3169c6 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c6d3ef" onclick="InsertImage('/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/17.gif');" onmouseout="this.style.backgroundColor=''; this.style.border=''" src="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/17.gif" align=absMiddle]

Red wine[/DIV]Medium dark beer[/DIV]mmmmm....chocolate...

LOL....FC, I don't think you understood the question.  LOL

Oops. I saw the lil' smilies raising their wine and beer and thought that's what you meant. Then got distracted by the cheesecake.....mmmmm.....cheesecake....(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Other/18.gif) [/DIV]And so the question is...?

LOL, FC.  I know.....mmmmmm cheesecake.  Please vote, before you salivate.  Heeheeeee

Duhhhhhh.....(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/4.gif) [/DIV]Zog see poll thing top screen. Bash with stone.[/DIV]Zog like milk chocolate.

I'm a milk chocolate red wine person. But I'm a wine carnavore at heart. So it really doesn't matter to me.

LOL LOL LOL.....You guys are tooooo funny.

FC...sounds like Mrs FC is home????? That must feel a whole lot better.

...sounds like Mrs FC is home????? That must feel a whole lot better.

Indeed it does. And I've been getting her to post some on DS (primefactor). It's fun to share new obsessions.[/DIV]We've got some nice pinot noir to finish off this weekend.(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/19.gif)  
 

Sweet FC. Sweet.  So Mrs. FC is Primefactor ?????  Well, no big surprise....another lovely poster.

Gee thanks! She's my best pal. We owe ourselves a nice relaxing weekend after this week. (you can read the "Evil Boss" thread to see what what kind of upheaval we (she) have been dealing with. But all is good and right with the world now.

I've got relatives who live in portland. When they get away from the city the go to Tillamook.

Yay Cheese![/DIV]I went up there last couple of years to warch the SCCA Oregon Trail Rally.

Ooooo, Tilamook.  We passed through there in September on our Oregon Coast trip.  THE BEST.  Lovely people ALL the way.  Travelled down to San Fran....cut across to Vegas....back to SanDiego and the back up the coast to Monterey.

The most hospitable lovely people one could ever hope to run in to.  LOVED the American people we met all the way.  *sigh*  What a fabulous adventure for us.

Sounds like a great trip PC. We've driven from here to San Diego and back once before. Love the West Coast.

"LOVED the American people we met all the way."[/DIV] [/DIV]Thats because mostly (except for my relatives who listen to everyword rush limbaugh says as the gospel) the people on the west coast have a head on their shoulders.  The only place I could live in the u.s. is the west coast but the midwest is slowly killing the u.s. part in me to the point that I probly couldn't live there for too long either.

You know, we've had discussions amongst friends here to the effect of .....If you absolutely couldn't live where you are....what would be your second choice.  And several places along that path of our journey ,were the only options that came to mind.  Absolutely beautiful.

On that note.....off to La La land for me.  G'night FC, and Mrs. FC.      

....and to you too sportsdude.    Zzzzzzzzz......

We need a dark chocolate only option in that poll!  (http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/poo.gif)

 (http://www.chocolove.com/images/bar_strongdark_575.jpg)

I have this theory that people who prefer dark chocolate, are red wine drinkers, and milk chocolate people are white wine people.  IF they drink wine at all.  So I'm less curious about just finding out which chocolate people prefer.

So my guess is, what you're saying is you like dark chocolate, but you don't like wine. ???

Is that you doin all that smiting GT ???  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c003.gif" border=0]

Hmm..I like milk chocolate and red wine. But I  have always been mixed up.

Sportsdude, when I lived in northern Cali, I met some of the most interesting and down to earth people ever. On the same note, I met a lot of flag waving, SUV driving, Wal Mart addicts that have bumper stickers that read "Bomb Iraq". Decent folks and a*shats everywhere.

I don't think MY theory, makes YOU mixed up CK.  lol[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/c020.gif" border=0]

I only learned to enjoy wine (red) about three years ago. Is there a red wine people/white wine people difference anyone can put a finger on? My mother likes white, and I think it smells like something with which you should only wash your face or sterilize dental picks, so I've always thought, maybe at 36, I'm still not grown up enough for white.

I about wet my pants laughing in "Sideways" when the guy threatens to leave if anyone orders merlot at dinner. Because I'm a big baby and I like merlot, it's so safe. And cabernet, and I had a really nice pinot noir last weekend. I'm sure the wine store dude thought I was such a hick -- he asked if I wanted a recommendation and I was like, "Um... I want something that's not too, you know, pointy." He said he knew what I meant and kindly advised me, but probably secretly thinking, You philistine. Give me your $27 and get out of my store.

And I love milk chocolate. Which is probably futher evidence that I'm not yet a grown up. I always wished I was one of those girls who likes dark chocolate and jazz and clove cigarettes, maybe wears a beret and understands abstract art. Alas.

I've made it as far as the dark chocolate and jazz.  My late mate was a jazz musician.  I even own a black beret which I only wear when it's really cold out.  But I balk at the thought of clove ciggies and I never did get the point of abstract art, so I guess I have a long way to go.   (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)

Well, it sounds like I'm really sliding into last place.  I've never even HEARD of clove cigarettes.[/DIV]And I've always maintained, when it comes to art....if it requires an explanation, it isn't good.  [img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" src="http://ghettobaby.net/Emoticons/0726emotes/gallery.gif"]

primefactor....I'm thinking my theory doesn't hold wine....errr water.  If you don't like 'pointy' wine (love that), try some of the German whites.  2 of my faves are the most un-German sounding, but they are not pointy.  Silver Bell, and Golden Eagle.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a056.GIF" border=0]

I've never known how to appreciate something I didn't have the vaguest clue about.  And I can't be bothered faking approval just to make me seem more "with it".

A white wine I do like is Zinfandel.  I toured a small winery in Northern California, I think it was north of San Francisco, and tried it for the first time there.  I can't remember the name of the winery, and they probably don't make enough to export to Canada, but I don't think I've ever tasted a better Zinfandel than that one.  I even tried a chocolate wine there.  Not that great, but certainly different!

P.C. wrote:
Well, it sounds like I'm really sliding into last place.  I've never even HEARD of clove cigarettes.

They were big when I was a teenaged Reagan-80s goth girl. I think they still are with the artsy and gloomy kids. I have a weird nostagia reaction when I smell them. They are sort of oily and crackle when you inhale. Which, supposedly, is why they are extra-bad for you.  

Ain't that the truth kitten.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c014.gif" border=0]

I used to have a 'friend', who would try to educate me in art.   I told him just because I didn't have it in me to pretend to like what was approved of by the 'Art Community', didn't mean I didn't have taste.  There's clearly a missing element when I have to be TOLD what I should like...WHY I should like it, and What the artist was TRYING to say.  

I've known a couple of artists as well as some "avant-garde" musicians that painted abstract art or blew far-out weird melodies.  They tried to tell me that I simply didn't have a discerning palate if I didn't appreciate what they were doing.  I informed them that pretentiousness for its own sake was a waste of their time and mine, and I didn't impress that easily.

You know, I actually think saying I don't like abstract art isn't sompletely accurate.  Some are pleasing to look at , or have just the right combination of colours that may enhance a rooms decor.  (I even use to do a bit of it myself)  But they often only have 'meaning' to the artist themselves and my inability to recognize what it is, doesn't make me any less art savvy as the next guy.

Also, if you can paint it with a roller, it doesn't qualify as art to me.[/DIV](http://www.harley.com/art/abstract-art/images/(rothko)-white-center-(small).jpg)This one is thoughtfully called White Centre.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/k055.gif[/img]

Sort of like a marshmallow trapped in lint.  Am typing with one hand because my cat decided to lie on my hand.

P.C. wrote:
I have this theory that people who prefer dark chocolate, are red wine drinkers, and milk chocolate people are white wine people.  IF they drink wine at all.  So I'm less curious about just finding out which chocolate people prefer.

Never heard or read that theory before. Doesn't seem to make much sense from a nutritional point of view.

Food pairs that've traditionally been enjoyed together (like rice and beans) more often not not have a foundation that can be backed by scientific data.

So my guess is, what you're saying is you like dark chocolate, but you don't like wine. ???

Precisely. I don't drink. If I was to drink, it would be rose (with an accent on e,  don't wanna fiddle with the international keyboard now)

I'm a big dark chocolate fan. Red wine would be on the bottom of my preferences among other wines, if I was ever to drink that is...

Is that you doin all that smiting GT ???  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c003.gif" border=0]

Nope, not me. Do you feel you have said or done something that'd elicit that kind of response from me?

P.C. wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]Also, if you can paint it with a roller, it doesn't qualify as art to me.[/div]
I agree. It may be pretty, but is it 'art'? I dunno. Art is indeed in the eye of the beholder, but some stuff is just so 'not art' to me, even though it may be attractive to the eye.

I guess that raises the question, "What is art?".

Or, if you like, "What isn't art?"


Full Disclosure: I have not an 'arty' bone in my body. Stick figures are about the limit of my expertise. If I tried to actually paint a picture the Art Police would come and arrest me for vandalism.
 

Oh, there is no scientific data backing my idea. And I'm not suggesting they would taste good together.  I just wondered if there was some connection.  People seem to generally like one or the other in the chocolate, and one or the other in wine.  I wondered if it was somehow related.

I don't think I've said anything to you that's 'smiteable' GT.  (I don't even think anything about you that's 'smiteable')  I didn't think I'd said anything to ANYONE that was smite worthy.  Apparently I've gotten under someones skin.

Perhaps it's a spite smite.  It only happens at night....which would make it a night spite smite.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/d030.gif" border=0]

Hi guys, how's it going? [embed src="" height="1" width="1"]

Naughty Priest wrote:
Hi guys, how's it going?

Going great. :)
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Oy vay.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c003.gif" border=0]

P.C. wrote:
Oy vay.[img style="cursor: pointer;" onclick="url(this.src);" src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c003.gif[/img]
Never underestimate the power of a basement-dwelling loser. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)

I'm resigned to the thought that there are some things I will never understand......mind you, I've never been that bored in my life.

I think people spend too much energy trying to "understand" abstract art. You either take a liking to a piece or you don't, often for reasons that don't become clear until you've lived with a work of art. Painting can be about any number of things from strict representation to meditating on the quality of a line, and all points in between.[/DIV]Have a chat with a pal about a painting or other work of art over a bottle of wine and see what comes out. You don't have to speak in lofty terms to talk about why you like or dislike a painting.(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/19.gif) [/DIV]And there are tons of hacks out there to be sure. You can usually tell when someone has put a lot of effort into their work.

Rats.....just typed a lenghty reply that just disappeared.  aaaarrrrrgggg.

D'oh!

I agree FC about finding it necessary to 'understand'.  If there were a clear message, it wouldn't require discussion or debate.  The artsy farsty crowd are missing this.  (either that, or it would leave them without a platform to try to impress)  I like what I like.

A lot of the work that I've done I just did intuitively and figured it out later. Of course that was just my interpretation, and everyone else's could be different.

Anyway, neat thread and I wish I could keep the discussion up, but I gotta tuck into bed soon. Sleep tight PC.

Hope the lost little troll finds his mommy.

Night FC.   Trolls don't have mommys.  That's the missing link for them.

Naughty Priest wrote:
Hi guys, how's it going? [EMB width="1" height="1" src="" ed]
 You should register that nickname! We can make one happy family with many happy pics like this:  

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P.C. wrote:
> (I don't even think anything about you that's 'smiteable')

Thanks. Obviously some people think otherwise.

Must be my views on DV, because it was all quiet until I started expressing my views. That's exactly when they started frantically hacking away at the smite link.

I figured since there's no delete key at their disposal here, that's how they're substituting for their neurotic requirements. After all, old habits die hard. But I shall not be silenced here, ha!  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/froehlich/a049.gif" border=0]

And of course the amusing question is: If they love DV so much that they can't bear the sight of my openly talking about all the dysfunctionality in that place, then what the heck are they doing here as registered members?

[/DIV]> Perhaps it's a spite smite.  It only happens at night....which would make it a night spite smite.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/d030.gif" border=0][/DIV]Yes try saying those last 3 words 20 times without spitting.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/g025.gif" border=0]

Well, I got it figured out GT.  My Saturday morning smite cleared it up.  I've seen the light.....it's not quite right to smite for spite. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/d030.gif" border=0]

 [A href="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824DFCA" target=_blank][img alt=Roll src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_21.gif[/img][/A] Hey, P.C., looks like I'm getting the smiting now.  It's about time.......everybody else has them.  I was feeling left out.[/DIV]Looks like if you are nice, polite and inoffensive someone is going to get really upset about it!  So funny.





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Kitten who on earth would smite you? Someone's kinda cranky around here....[/DIV]Funny that we all get extra smite the same time the little trolls were poking around.

We're all in the same boat, we 3 who've been smote.[/DIV]As a guest I've made note of those who could vote.

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LOL! I was just trying to come up with a clever rhyme today about our little night-smite-sprite.[/DIV]You beat me to it.(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/21.gif)

Hey, P.C., looks like I'm getting the smiting now.  It's about time.......everybody else has them.  I was feeling left out.Looks like if you are nice, polite and inoffensive someone is going to get really upset about it!  So funny.[/DIV][/DIV]Everybody finds their fun in something I guess.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/n030.gif" border=0]

Cute......very cute.  You did yourself proud with that rhyme.    So we have an idiot that has signed up just to smite people.  How very odd.  And what a waste of time.  Don't know for sure if it's a brainless juvie, but it sure smells like one.  Whoever it is is probably flunking elementary school.

I learned once more why one should never assume. It's sure not who I thought it was at all. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/n035.gif" border=0]

OMG! P.C. I just noticed that you are now a hero member. Wow....(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/2.gif)

OMG.........

[img height=390 src="http://www.geocities.com/mechanicalreindeer/superwoman.JPG" width=198 border=0]I am WOMAN......ROOOOOOAAAARRRR...[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a100.gif" border=0]

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ROFL.....imagine getting a new title, for simply being the yappiest.  LOL [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/g025.gif" border=0]

Future Canadian wrote:
LOL! I was just trying to come up with a clever rhyme today about our little night-smite-sprite.[/div][div]You beat me to it.(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/21.gif)

how bout' some white wine and white chocolate -  sweet and tart baby !

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how bout' some white wine and white chocolate -  sweet and tart baby !
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I guess I should read them instructions for this site ???  ,looks fun though !

before you dig into the chocolat , you eat some niice chicken , white meat or brown hey ?

You like da legs or da bresss  oh mamma ! ;)

So my choice is , for dessert , dark chocolate & an old bottle of rouge ..

Love the icon- it's you. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)

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