Trollio wrote:
First time I've seen this thread.
Gopher wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Quakers are pretty good at seeing through the dark stuff...[/SPAN]
Gopher, you cannot possibly be a Quaker (can you?), or know too many of them.
I've known Quakers who, for all their pacifism, are some of the most intellectually violent people on the planet. I know what you mean, the whole quiet and the inner light thing of course, but people are people. Quakers themselves joke about this, and they have serious family-renting arguments over the spelling and pronunciation of words. (I've heard this crazy story about semantics from three different devout Quakers in different places with no relation to each other.)
Trollio, I DO know a lot of Quakers and I'd be the first to agree with you about the matter of semantics: my point was that in matters of comprehensivity re. the matter, and acceptability of the 'inner core' of other religions, they're right on the ball.
Tenkani, check out the work of Yukio Mishima. He'll tell you fairly quick about the flaws of Buddhist monks. The eastern religions are no better than the ones that came out of the Levant. Most monks are monks for a period of time, then they go back to their regular lives. Those regular lives could involve all sorts of debauchery, and then they can go back to being a monk again at any time. Many people are romanced by eastern religions for one reason or another after reading a primer on their belief system. The reality is often much different. Then there's that bit about Gautama not allowing women to become monks for 500 years because it would "delay enlightenment".
To our Wiccan friend, yes, I'm sure they all look alike to you, especially from your perspective of being shunned or persecuted by their followers, but there is a world of difference between Judaism and Christianity on the one hand and Islam on the other. Islam is actually closer in its structural origins to Mormonism (not in doctrine, but in how it came to be a religion from the musings of one individual).
The "truth" is where you find it. Each religion has a version of the "golden rule," and many are derived in great part from those that came before them.