Help with labour codes

[P.C.]

Awww.....Thanks CK.  I think I'm going to have a little chat with him.  I don't like to take advantage, as he's between a rock and a hard place right now with another few employees walking.....but maybe  this is exactly the time he will be able to hear.

[49er]

found this in the California Labor Code

 [A href="vny!://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=lab&group=00001-01000&file=500-558"]vny!://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=lab&group=00001-01000&file=500-558[/A]

  [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff40"]512.  (a) An employer may not employ an employee for a work period
of more than five hours per day without providing the employee with a
meal period of not less than 30 minutes, except that if the total
work period per day of the employee is no more than six hours, the
meal period may be waived by mutual consent of both the employer and
employee. An employer may not employ an employee for a work period of
more than 10 hours per day without providing the employee with a
second meal period of not less than 30 minutes, except that if the
total hours worked is no more than 12 hours, the second meal period
may be waived by mutual consent of the employer and the employee only
if the first meal period was not waived.
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[P.C.]

49er....that's not too different from ours, except that we have that little paragraph that wipes that out.

Is there anything after that ?  LOL

[49er]

Is there anything after that ?

  here is complete para.

      512.  (a) An employer may not employ an employee for a work period
of more than five hours per day without providing the employee with a
meal period of not less than 30 minutes, except that if the total
work period per day of the employee is no more than six hours, the
meal period may be waived by mutual consent of both the employer and
employee. An employer may not employ an employee for a work period of
more than 10 hours per day without providing the employee with a
second meal period of not less than 30 minutes, except that if the
total hours worked is no more than 12 hours, the second meal period
may be waived by mutual consent of the employer and the employee only
if the first meal period was not waived.
   (b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the Industrial Welfare
Commission may adopt a working condition order permitting a meal
period to commence after six hours of work if the commission
determines that the order is consistent with the health and welfare
of the affected employees.
   (c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to an employee in the wholesale
baking industry who is subject to an Industrial Welfare Commission
wage order and who is covered by a valid collective bargaining
agreement that provides for a 35-hour workweek consisting of five
seven-hour days, payment of 1 and1/2 the regular rate of pay for time
worked in excess of seven hours per day, and a rest period of not
less than 10 minutes every two hours.
   (d) If an employee in the motion picture industry or the
broadcasting industry, as those industries are defined in Industrial
Welfare Commission Wage Orders 11 and 12, is covered by a valid
collective bargaining agreement that provides for meal periods and
includes a monetary remedy if the employee does not receive a meal
period required by the agreement, then the terms, conditions, and
remedies of the agreement pertaining to meal periods apply in lieu of
the applicable provisions pertaining to meal periods of subdivision
(a) of this section, Section 226.7, and Industrial Welfare Commission
Wage Orders 11 and 12.


 

[Sportsdude]

The only cool thing about being an independent contractor is that if you make just under 20k, as my self (although I work part time now) you don't have to pay taxes. Although taxes never really have bothered me personally, even thou I've never filled out a tax statement.

  The bad thing, your an independent contractor, health benefits or benefits or plans of any kind do not exist.

[Future Canadian]

  P.C. wrote:

I'm definitely not for unions,
Hiya PC. You're not for unions? You don't really expect the fat cats at the top of the food chain to look after your interests, do you? Especially if it effects their bottom line. I know they have problems (they make lazy workers that can't get fired, make trouble with management, etc.) but they are neccesary to give the little guy a voice. You'll have to forgive me, I was raised with my Grandpa lecturing any chance he got how unions enabled us to live the (modestly comfortable middle-class) life we have. My inheritance put the down payment on our house. Those at the top will take any chance they can to make an extra buck.

As to your situation (8 hrs. no bathroom break?!?!? Do they issue you a carbon-fibre bladder?), since it doesn't sound legal or healthy or even good business sense perhaps you could innocently bring up to your manager that you were talking to a friend that works in (whatever Canada's labour authority) about this and maybe that's why there's such high turnover. Whether you do know someone like that or not, it'll put the bug in his ear that someone official might get on his case.

The only nice thing about my last job was the breaks. When one did a double shift they rolled your 30 min lunch, and two 15 min breaks we're legally allotted here, all into one glorious fully paid hour.
 

[P.C.]

No, FC...I'm not a big union person at all.  I think your grandfather knew of what he was speaking though.  They were necessary then....they served a good purpose.  NOW, they protect the wrong people  (IMHO).  The owner of this company is a really GOOD man.....a little old school, but a good man.  He would be mortified at the thought of union.....which is why I'd like to go in with a gentle approach (even though I FEEL like it requires guns ablazing).  I've been working on the courage all day to talk with boss guy tomorrow.  

  The new managers are astounded at the response from their clientele of my return...so I have a teeny bit of 'clout', but if I don't use it now, the time will pass.  When you realize that I am in a seniority position after 3 or 4 days of work, it's pretty clear something isn't working.

[Future Canadian]

I see what you are saying PC. There are good people that run companies and there are evil ones as well. The folks at the bottom end need some voice when up against the evil ones.
My new job doesn't have cushy breaks like my last one, but I don't mind because I enjoy the  job and he's a cool guy.
 

[CK]

Just a thought from experience.

If you can find a good deal with a good company without even thinking the word "union" you are far better off. Yes, unions were, and are, needed in some cases. I just found with my experience with the BC forest workers, the negatives have far out weighed the positives.

Another thing, every union is different.  

[CK]

is that avatar ronnie james dio?

[Future Canadian]

 CK wrote:
is that avatar ronnie james dio?

Good eyes! I used to be crazy about Dio.

 

[CK]

lol! sweet. My oldest sis is an old school metal head! Dio, Sabbath, Megadeth. I grew up hearing it and actually have downloaded some recently.

[P.C.]

Well, people who own businesses have some responsibility to keep abreast of how their employees are running things....but their interests are usually centered on numbers, and these people, who are next in the chain of command are the messengers.  WE....(the next level down) depend on them to paint the WHOLE picture....and often this is not the case.      

[CK]

Its all about common sense on both sides.

My workplace has many weed smelling draftspeople. They are really fast and amazing at their jobs. I find myself turning a blind..nose to it. If we lost them, we would be in trouble, and they would find another good job within a week.

[CK]

Best of luck tomorrow P.C. if it is another workday.