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Orik · Apr 17 10 06:20

^ I agree Russ

a wake, a chance for friends and family to party, to remember the good times, to talk about the bad and the ugly to love each other and celebrate the life they have. I want people to have a good time, to have fun, to laugh, I do not want any one to cry at my passing.

It is a time to grieve but not at the experience of life I lived it to the full for the nonce and will till the spark of life goes out. Take time to remember and think of the good, laugh at the things that were funny.. and weep not, for we shall see each other again, in another time & another place.. This new mystery of the greatest fear of the greatest unknown.

It is a new beginning, on forward into the unknown, a time to travel, with no more fears, a freedom from pain, a chance to live once again.. Or onwards to heven or hell purgatory or rebirth.. I don't know what it is that comes after this life but I can only think it is going to be one hell of an adventure along the way..

Natasha · Apr 20 10 07:41

Orik wrote:
^ I agree Russ

a wake, a chance for friends and family to party, to remember the good times,

That's easier to do when the person has lived a long full life. When the deceased is a younger individual it's hard to avoid that feeling of a young life cheated.

Orik · Apr 20 10 08:14

Aye Natasha that is true, it is the rare occasion when a young person has lived a full life. but what is classified as young. Once upon a time, the average life expectancy was 33 to 38 years old. and now the average life expectancy is 70 years of age.

though ones average life expectancy can increase or decrease to this mitigating situations / circumstances such as where you live on the planet, what your heritage / ethnicity is. whether you are obese or not, & if you are male or female.

The average life exspectancy of a first nations male in the down town east side is 54 years of age and 58 for a caucasion male. and for West Vancouver (north shore side) the same life expectancy is 68 and 74 years of age respectively.

these may not be the exact ages I am going on memory from a TV show I watched 3 or 4 years ago and my memory is a bit fuzzy on the full details of that program. I think the ages are more or less correct with in 2 to 5 years of what the tv show was stating.

I wish I could find a link to that Special it was a tv special on global I remember that much =( but who did it, for the life of me has left my fuzzy brain pan for the depths of the abys, I blame learning about the snailfish for making me forget =D

DDD · Apr 20 10 09:07

Natasha wrote:
Orik wrote:
^ I agree Russ

a wake, a chance for friends and family to party, to remember the good times,

That's easier to do when the person has lived a long full life. When the deceased is a younger individual it's hard to avoid that feeling of a young life cheated.

I agree

Natasha · Apr 21 10 12:18

Orik wrote:
Aye Natasha that is true, it is the rare occasion when a young person has lived a full life. but what is classified as young. Once upon a time, the average life expectancy was 33 to 38 years old. and now the average life expectancy is 70 years of age.

I think everyone has an idea of what is young (numerically speaking). Who is going to look at someone in their 90's and say "bless his heart, he died young"? When I say young, I mean young. Babies, toddlers and children. They are young no matter how much the average life expectancy changes.

Orik · Apr 21 10 01:47

What age do you place a cap the young at then... I consider any one under 20 as young.

Death is never a good thing, but sometimes it is a freedom....

DDD · Apr 21 10 04:22

25 and down

Orik · Apr 21 10 11:41

and what age do you allow a person to commit suicide it is there choice and they wish to go throw euthanasia at what age do you allow some one to make that decision...

in this case and situation the death is painful it will be a very long time of suffering as they slowly slip away from the reality of this world there body rots around them... at some point they will be unable to do it for themselves but they want it done.. what age do you allow someone to say I have had enough & I want to go home they want to be free from the pain they are in.

Natasha · Apr 22 10 06:17

Orik wrote:
and what age do you allow a person to commit suicide it is there choice and they wish to go throw euthanasia at what age do you allow some one to make that decision...

in this case and situation the death is painful it will be a very long time of suffering as they slowly slip away from the reality of this world there body rots around them... at some point they will be unable to do it for themselves but they want it done.. what age do you allow someone to say I have had enough & I want to go home they want to be free from the pain they are in.

Allow? I'd never "allow" a person to commit suicide. Why would anyone allow another human being to do that? What type of person would seriously think a suicidal individual is capable of making proper decisions? Sometimes a body just needs to be taken care of regardless of age. If a person really loves you (not neceassarily a spouse either) that person will make decisions for you based on what they're more coherant mind feels is best. They will do some type of intervention. They will allow your burdens to be their own and help you through them all. It's inhumane to allow someone to end their own life.

As for your example- with modern medical field being what it is now, most people don't suffer in pain. There are medicines, places and even jobs devoted solely to making ones suffering and last days minimal. "at some point they will be unable to do it for themselves but they want it done.." well if they are unable to do it for themselves but want it done then they aren't commiting suicide are they? They're asking you to murder them... totally different.

Orik · Apr 22 10 07:12

I disagree. but that is neither here nor there. euthanasia is not murder. and suicide is a personal option, true it is selfish but I can understand the reason behind it. Some people do not want to live on machines or spend their remaining time in a hospital slipping away Natasha...

Natasha · Apr 22 10 08:14

I understand that Orik. And that is why a person can in advance sign legal forms stating what to do in such cases so that major decisions that would burden ones soul aren't places upon another person. At some point in time as an adult everyone should get these types of things in order.

DDD · Apr 22 10 05:09

Give me a beer and a fishing rod and send me out to sea...........

Russ · Apr 23 10 05:06

DDD wrote:
<DIV>Give me a beer and a fishing rod and send me out to sea...........</DIV>

I agree! <bless> Great idea there

Um on the fishing part not on sending you out to sea.

DDD · Apr 27 10 06:21

well if i am going to die ........ out to sea with my fishing rod in hand ...........cooler full of beer........."I" phone so I can look at porn...hey i am not dead yet.......LOL........and a nice fat one.

Natasha · Apr 27 10 08:34

DDD wrote:
well if i am going to die ........ out to sea with my fishing rod in hand ...........cooler full of beer........."I" phone so I can look at porn...hey i am not dead yet.......LOL........and a nice fat one.
So you'd rather leave this world watching people have sex instead of actually doing it?