how do you get into dos mode?

Started by tmapj, Mar 23 06 11:57

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tenkani

Okeydoke, try this at your own risk.

  If you remove the battery from your motherboard (FOLLOWING ALL PROPER ESD PRECAUTIONS FIRST) it should wipe out the password on your BIOS.

  If you don't feel comfortable working inside your computer case then don't mess with it.

  Did you try just booting to the CD-ROM?

  If you already answered this forgive me, I was too lazy to read all the previous posts....
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Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

tmapj

Thanks.

  I have three questions.

  1) What other effects does removing the motherboard battery have

  2) Where is the motherboard battery located

  3)Whats esd  

tenkani

If there are any true propeller heads in the audience please correct me, but this is my understanding. Removing the motherboard battery will clear the temporary data stored in the CMOS chip. For instance, if a previous user had set the computer to boot to the hard drive before the floppy drive, it might default back to the factory setting of booting to the floppy drive first. The password will be wiped out.

  If someone has updated the BIOS since purchase, I'm not sure whether those updates will be lost if the battery is removed. I don't think so, since BIOS updates are "firmware" updates, and firmware doesn't need power to store information.

  ESD is electro-static discharge. If you walk around on carpet in sock feet and then reach into your computer and grab a RAM module you've probably just made a very expensive mistake.

  When I'm working on my computer I:

  1. Unplug it.

2. Open the case.

3. Touch a BARE METAL (unpainted) part of the computer case. This will equalize the charge between myself and my computer. ESD occurs when two objects have a different amount of charge and the electrons go flowing to equalize it.

4. Periodically touch bare metal just in case I've somehow gathered a charge moving around. They actually sell a little wrist strap that connects your skin to the case through a wire, so that you don't have to keep touching it, but if you touch metal every minute or so you'll be fine.

  The location of your motherboard battery varies from board to board. You may have to do some research online to find out where it's supposed to be, assuming you can't find it with your eyeballs. It will probably look like a flat, circular battery held in place by a metal clip.

  Please don't do anything I've talked about until a geek corrects me     :)
For thou art with me; thy cream and thy sugar they comfort me
Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

TehBorken

 tmapj wrote:
To be more specific on my problems, I am having problems with two computers. On the first computer, I have gotten a virus, or rather, virus[b style="font-style: italic;"]es[/b], trojans and worms. I'm able to remove all of them with my AVG free antivirus software,

Don't waste any more time. Backup your docs and format the drives down to the bare metal, then install WinXP, or better yet, install [a href="vny!://www.ubuntu.com/"]Unbuntu[/a].
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

tmapj

Teh, thanks but I've got a little problem with getting my boot disk to get my CD-ROM drivers. Once I wipe my harddrive clean will my CDROM automatically work?

TehBorken

 tmapj wrote:
Teh, thanks but I've got a little problem with getting my boot disk to get my CD-ROM drivers. Once I wipe my harddrive clean will my CDROM automatically work?

The two don't really have anything to do with one another, only of your CD needs to load a specific driver to work (most recent ones don't). You may need to go into your BIOS to set the CD drive so it's bootable (assuming your BIOS supports that).
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

tmapj

TehBorken wrote:

The two don't really have anything to do with one another, only of your CD needs to load a specific driver to work (most recent ones don't). You may need to go into your BIOS to set the CD drive so it's bootable (assuming your BIOS supports that).


 

 This is a really old computer. The CD is bootable, but DOS doesnt recognize it for some reason.


 

tenkani

My understanding is that if your BIOS is set to boot to CD-ROM first, DOS is irrelevant. Your computer will look at whatever's in your CD-ROM drive and try to find boot files. Your Windows installation CD-ROM has these boot files, so even with a blank hard drive, you should be able to boot to CD-ROM in order to partition, format and install your OS.

  Does that sound right Borken??
For thou art with me; thy cream and thy sugar they comfort me
Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

tmapj

tenkani wrote:
My understanding is that if your BIOS is set to boot to CD-ROM first, DOS is irrelevant. Your computer will look at whatever's in your CD-ROM drive and try to find boot files. Your Windows installation CD-ROM has these boot files, so even with a blank hard drive, you should be able to boot to CD-ROM in order to partition, format and install your OS.



Does that sound right Borken??[/DIV]
 Yeah, I've got it set up to boot first from CDROM then from harddrive, but I restart the computer with the windows 98 installation CD in the CDROM and it ignores it, and continues to load windows ME as normal.

TehBorken

   tenkani wrote:
My understanding is that if your BIOS is set to boot to CD-ROM first, DOS is irrelevant.

Yep. If your system has a CDROM that can act as a boot device and the BIOS is set to try it first, then it doesn't matter what's on the hard drive.

   
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

TehBorken

 tmapj wrote:
[em][/em]Yeah, I've got it set up to boot first from CDROM then from harddrive, but I restart the computer with the windows 98 installation CD in the CDROM and it ignores it, and continues to load windows ME as normal.
 
There's the problem: the WIn98 CD isn't a bootable CD. There's a 'BOOTDISK' dir on it somewhere that lets you make a set of boot disks, though.
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

tmapj

TehBorken wrote:
tmapj wrote:
Yeah, I've got it set up to boot first from CDROM then from harddrive, but I restart the computer with the windows 98 installation CD in the CDROM and it ignores it, and continues to load windows ME as normal.

There's the problem: the WIn98 CD isn't a bootable CD. There's a 'BOOTDISK' dir on it somewhere that lets you make a set of boot disks, though.



 still, DOS isnt recognizing my D:\ drive period when I boot with a boot floppy.


 

tenkani

Hmmm, you know how you can get to a boot menu by pressing um...was it F8 during the boot process??

  Isn't there an option for "command line with CD-ROM support" or something similar?
For thou art with me; thy cream and thy sugar they comfort me
Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

tmapj

tenkani wrote:
Hmmm, you know how you can get to a boot menu by pressing um...was it F8 during the boot process??



Isn't there an option for "command line with CD-ROM support" or something similar?

  Just tried that. It gives you that screen... "1)Safe mode 2) Logged mode 3) Normal mode 4) Step-by-step confirmation"

tenkani

Brezzledrek!!

  I haven't played with 98 in a long time. I guess the command line with CD-ROM support is only for the newer OSes. Either that, or I'm remembering incorrectly.

  I seem to remember finding a generic boot disk online with generic CD-ROM drivers included. I know that's not very helpful...
For thou art with me; thy cream and thy sugar they comfort me
Thou preparest a carafe before me in the presence of Juan Valdez
Thou anointest my day with pep; my mug runneth over
Surely richness and taste shall follow me all the days of my life
And I will dwell in the house of coffee forever.

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