Last night after posting a couple of messages on DS (mostly addressed to modulus) it dawned on me this morning that there's more to this story than meets the eye.
I believe at a symbolic level, this so called major policy announcement is modulus' way of saying "I quit".
There may've been some disagreements before, but push came to shove last night when raor asked for modulus' help in dealing with a repeat harrasser:
At that moment ydv jumps in in her capacity as a mod, and completely ignores and denies that any kind of harrassment was taking place.
[TABLE id=Table2 style="COLOR: midnightblue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica; 10pt: " cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=10 width="100%" border=0] [TBODY] [TR bgColor=gainsboro] [TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" vAlign=top align=left]ydvmod[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 3/22/2007 11:31:34 PM[/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] [FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]maybe if you would leave me alone i would ask the mod to just delete the offending posts and let you go with a warning, but you use so many handles to abuse me. how could i get the reassurance you'll stay out of my way?[/SPAN][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]if you're willing to leave me alone (under any nickname), i'm willing to ask the mods to only give you a warning instead of a second banning.[/SPAN]
I don't think it works that way raor. You can't ask for someone to be banned only cause you don't like them or cause they say things you don't like.
Harassment and stalking are what happens over several threads and over several days. It usually involves posting personal information of a poster and I don't think either is the case here.
As a matter of fact, if you look at it that way, your constant accusations that a certain poster[/FONT][FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"] is harassing you[/FONT][FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"] (even though the posts you are referring to are posted anonymously), are also a form of harassment.
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Contradicting herself, twisting and deliberately misinterpreting everything enough to suggest that raor is the one perpetrating the harrassment.
She confounds the issue further by making it as difficult as possible to identify who's actually harrassing her:
[TABLE id=Table2 style="COLOR: midnightblue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica; 10pt: " cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=10 width="100%" border=0] [TBODY] [TR bgColor=gainsboro] [TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" vAlign=top align=left]ydvmod[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 3/22/2007 11:47:03 PM[/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] [FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"][FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]She is the one who always harasses me - to the point of finding it necessary to ask for assistance in dealing with the matter, from the moderating team.[/SPAN]
There are at least three different posters among those that you identify as being only viv. I don't think mods should ever interfere in cases like this. It becomes different when personal information and/or RL details are revealed.
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(Hello? You're the mod, you're the one who has access to IPs. So how hard is it to identify and warn those individuals?)
But no, DV mods are potted plants. They're not supposed interfere. Even when harrassment goes on for weeks and months, spanning across a number of threads... (I'm speaking from a variety of past incidents, not just this one.)
Anyhow at that moment modulus shows up, and after a quick examination of the case he makes his decision known:
[TABLE id=Table2 style="COLOR: midnightblue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica; 10pt: " cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=10 width="100%" border=0] [TBODY] [TR bgColor=gainsboro] [TD style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold" vAlign=top align=left]modulusruptura[/TD] [TD colSpan=2][img title="" height=15 alt="" hspace=3 src="vny!://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_posticon.gif" width=15 border=0][FONT size=1]Posted - 3/23/2007 12:20:33 AM[/FONT] [HR noShade SIZE=1] ok, the situation is as follows, I looked at the link that raor posted, at the beginning of the thread, and what viv has posted in that thread constitutes harrassment, in that it is a continued behaviour. the postings were completely off topic and were harrassing
viv does know that this kind of behaviour is not tolerated, and this is not a first offence
if there was ever any doubt in her mind that this kind of behaviour not be defined as harrassing, that doubt is no longer accepted and I am giving a FINAL WARNING
a ban is justified now, but I am giving one last chance, ANY HINT of this kind of harrassing behaviour toward any of the posters that you have been stalking will be dealt with with a long term ban of no less than a month
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Note the strong wording, and how his judgement differs so dramatically from ydv's.
[FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1](Got to fold the laundry. Epilogue to follow soon...)[/FONT]
