Remove Prisoner's Right to Vote

Started by TheAngel, Feb 14 07 05:36

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TheAngel

 The Supreme Court of Canada needs to reverse it's 2002 decision that allowed inmates the right to vote in federal elections.  Prisoners should not have a say in who gets sent to Ottawa to make decisions affecting free, law-abiding citizens in Canada.  

weird al

Were they actually not allowed to vote pre-2002?

TheAngel

It was a biased ploy set up by the then Federal Liberal gov't of Canada in 2002, to pass this bill to the SCC for approval, before the next election was held.

The Liberals knew, that if prisoners were given right to vote, the prisoners would always vote for political parties who favour luxurious situations for inmates in federal penitenciaries.






 

TheAngel

Thanks,that's my 2cents. :)  

gunta0

TheAngel wrote:
The Supreme Court of Canada needs to reverse it's 2002 decision that allowed inmates the right to vote in federal elections.  Prisoners should not have a say in who gets sent to Ottawa to make decisions affecting free, law-abiding citizens in Canada.  
     Rights shouldn't be granted to people by means of  the government picking and choosing who gets them.  This completely contradicts the concept of rights. if you are a citizen, you should get rights. Now landed immigrants shouldn;t have any rights and we should be able to do whatever we want to them.

gunta0

TheAngel wrote:
It was a biased ploy set up by the then Federal Liberal gov't of Canada in 2002, to pass this bill to the SCC for approval, before the next election was held.

The Liberals knew, that if prisoners were given right to vote, the prisoners would always vote for political parties who favour luxurious situations for inmates in federal penitenciaries.

 

 LOL.

 

 And the government could just tell every 20-30 year old that they will buy them cars if they vote for them. Politics simply doesn't work like that. Your premise is skewed. Rights are granted to all citizens. The government works for us.






 


 

gunta0

TheAngel wrote:
Yup, so it seems.

I think it isn't right that those who have lost their rights to be members of a free civil society, should have a say on who gets sent to Ottawa to make decisions...  seems wrong to me.
 

 

 When did they LOSE their rights?


 

don't

 gunta0 wrote:
TheAngel wrote:
It was a biased ploy set up by the then Federal Liberal gov't of Canada in 2002, to pass this bill to the SCC for approval, before the next election was held.

The Liberals knew, that if prisoners were given right to vote, the prisoners would always vote for political parties who favour luxurious situations for inmates in federal penitenciaries.[/p]  [/p] LOL.[/p]  [/p] And the government could just tell every 20-30 year old that they will buy them cars if they vote for them. Politics simply doesn't work like that. Your premise is skewed. [span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"]Rights are granted to all citizens. The government works for us.[/span]


^^ hear, hear



 
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TheAngel

[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] gunta0 wrote:[/span][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]TheAngel wrote:[/span][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]The Supreme Court of Canada needs to reverse it's 2002 decision that allowed inmates the right to vote in federal elections.  Prisoners should not have a say in who gets sent to Ottawa to make decisions affecting free, law-abiding citizens in Canada.  [/span][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] [div style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] [/div] [div style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] [/div] [span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]Rights shouldn't be granted to people by means of  the government picking and choosing who gets them.  This completely contradicts the concept of rights. if you are a citizen, you should get rights. Now landed immigrants shouldn;t have any rights and we should be able to do whatever we want to them.[/span]


Prisoners have been removed from society because they lost their rights.

 

TheAngel

[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] gunta0 wrote:[/span][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]TheAngel wrote:
Yup, so it seems.

I think it isn't right that those who have lost their rights to be members of a free civil society, should have a say on who gets sent to Ottawa to make decisions...  seems wrong to me.
  [/p]  
[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]When did they LOSE their rights?
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[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][/span][/p]When they broke the law.[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]
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TheAngel

[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] don't wrote:[/span][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] gunta0 wrote:[/span][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]TheAngel wrote:
It was a biased ploy set up by the then Federal Liberal gov't of Canada in 2002, to pass this bill to the SCC for approval, before the next election was held.

The Liberals knew, that if prisoners were given right to vote, the prisoners would always vote for political parties who favour luxurious situations for inmates in federal penitenciaries.[/p] [p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"] [/p] [p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]LOL.[/p] [p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]
[/p] [span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]And the government could just tell every 20-30 year old that they will buy them cars if they vote for them. Politics simply doesn't work like that. Your premise is skewed. [/span][span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0); font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]Rights are granted to all citizens. The government works for us.[/span][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"][span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]^^ hear, hear[/span]



  Are prisoner's really citizens?  Do they live a civil life in a civil society?  
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TheAngel

Would you really want someone like Robert Picton having a say in the electoral system?  

P.C.

You're right weird al....they have always been allowed to vote.  [FONT face=Times]In October 2002, the Supreme Court of Canada rejected a law forbidding inmates in federal prisons from voting. The court decided "the right to vote lies at the heart of democracy in Canada."[/FONT]

I also agree that they forfiet that right when they chose to not live within the confines of a civilized society.  

 
Sir Isaac Newton invented the swinging door....for the convenience of his cat.

TheAngel

*lol* maybe i read that wrong.  

P.C., it's nice to see we agree......
 

TheAngel

[span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]The Prisoners, are living the good and easy life.[/span][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]They don't have to work, everything gets handed to them.  It's simple really.[/span][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]Think of the heinous crimes they committed?[/span][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]If they get out, they'll commit more crimes because hey, [/span][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]life in prison - it ain't that bad.[/span][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-style: italic;"][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-style: italic;"]They can vote for the Liberals who give them TV's and nice things.[/span][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]