So now that you have what you wanted...

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jay

What happened to all the ranting and raving about 'voter fraud' on this board?  Oh.... you got what you wanted, so of course, it didn't happen.  It just happened in 2004, and in 2000.  You won't hear me crying foul.  But it is laughable that your 'voter fraud' has dropped by the wayside now that you seem to have the results you wanted.  And if the elections had tipped the other way?   ...well, we all know what your reaction would be to that, don't we?  So what is it like to have the ends justify the means?  


to describe you in a word:  predictable.
 

TehBorken

  jay wrote:
What happened to all the ranting and raving about 'voter fraud' on this board?

Who said there was no voter fraud this time? Apparently there wan't enough to suit you, however.


Oh.... you got what you wanted, so of course, it didn't happen.

Yes, it did. And only a bonehead could claim it didn't happen in 2000 and 2004. The fact that the Dems won this election doesn't mean it didn't happen before. That's a pretty stupid argument and extremely faulty reasoning.


to describe you in a word:  predictable.
 
 To describe you in a word: dumbest f*cking troll evar.
 
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

Adam_Fulford

jay wrote:
 crying foul.  But it is laughable that your 'voter fraud' has dropped by the wayside now that you seem to have the results you wanted.  And if the elections had tipped the What happened to all the ranting and raving about 'voter fraud' on this board?  Oh.... you got what you wanted, so of course, it didn't happen.  It just happened in 2004, and in 2000.  You won't hear meother way?   ...well, we all know what your reaction would be to that, don't we?  So what is it like to have the ends justify the means?  


to describe you in a word:  predictable.


Actually, no. The battle to protect American citizens' voting rights in the War Against American Voters has just entered a new phase. A hopeful phase, granted.  There was  myriad of severe voting machine failures all across the USA.  Just because the Democrats overwhelmingly won, doesn't make me happy to see elections reduced to a crapshoot.  I certainly didn't get what I wanted which is a reliable system of counting votes in the United States (whether the winner is Democratic, Republican, or another party).  Debra Bowen -- author of the Voters' Bill of Rights -- who's won the Secretary of State in California will certainly help ensure that the next round of elections has integrity, at least in California.

I feel great shame that Canadians in British Columbia, where I reside, were largely responsible for the vile and corrupt programming of Diebold voting machines.  Why is the United States getting foreigners involved -- including Communist Chinese (gotta ask why they wanted Republicans to win), in the case of Florida's machines -- in how American votes are counted.

Implementation of the Voters Bill of Rights is what I want:

[p style="font-weight: bold;"]1.       The Right to Register to Vote    [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]2.       The Right to Vote     [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]3.       The Right to Vote in a Tamper-Proof Election     [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]4.       The Right to Vote on Paper     [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]5.       The Right to Have Your Vote Counted Accurately     [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]6.       The Right to Have Election Results Properly Audited     [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]7.       The Right to an Open, Transparent, Public Process     [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]8.       The Right to Elections Officials who Operate Free of Partisan Influence     [/p][p style="font-weight: bold;"]9. The Right to Know that Elected Officials are Free from the Influence of Campaign Contributions from Voting Machine Vendors [/p]10.       The Right to Find Out How Money is being Raised and Spent in the Political Process  [/p]


 
 

Adam_Fulford

I'd  also like to see full criminal investigations into vote-tampering activities, leading to prosecutions of all guilty parties.  And for the vendors to reimburse the billions in American taxpayers' money looted for the purposes of buying their crappy machines via HAVA (whose authors are mostly already in jail).
 

Adam_Fulford

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Adam_Fulford

[h1]New Def. Sec. Gates Was Director Of Voting Company[/h1]       [span class="byline"]Thursday, 9 November 2006, 3:42 pm
       Opinion: Bev Harris - Blackboxvoting.Org[/span]        [!--first blockquote gone!--]
[h3] Rumsfeld Replacement (Robert Gates) Was Director Of Voting Company[/h3]
by [a href="vny!://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0611/S00178.htm#a"] Bev Harris[/a] - [a href="vny!://www.blackboxvoting.org/" target="_blank"]Blackboxvoting.Org[/a]
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld will resign, reportedly to be replaced by former CIA director Robert Gates. [/p]Gates was on the board of directors of VoteHere, a strange little company that was the biggest elections industry lobbyist for the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). VoteHere spent more money than ES&S, Diebold, and Sequoia combined to help ram HAVA through. And HAVA, of course, was a bill sponsored by by convicted Abramoff pal Bob Ney and K-street lobbyist buddy Steny Hoyer. HAVA put electronic voting on steroids. [/p]You can find copies of the VoteHere lobbying forms here: [a href="vny!://sopr.senate.gov/cgi-win/m_opr_viewer.exe?DoFn=0" target="_blank"] vny!://sopr.senate.gov/cgi-win/m_opr_viewer.exe?DoFn=0[/a][/p]I can't get them to save to pdf, perhaps you can. Enter search terms in both "registrant" and "client" fields and put in terms "Rhoads" "Livingston" and "Votehere" (one at a time.). Then look at the gravy train while it was in the process of derailing American democracy. [/p]I first became acquainted with VoteHere when I met a source, Dan Spillane, who is the wonderful guy that identified the Diebold source code modules for me after I found the Diebold files. He is the person who introduced me, and subsequently everyone else, to the odd role of The Election Center and R. Doug Lewis in the elections industry. [/p]Spillane also filled me in on The Livingston Group, VoteHere lobbyists, run by Bob Livingston -- the fellow that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt outed during the Bill Clinton blow job days. Larry Flynt offered a million dollars to anyone who could locate a Republican congressman committing adultery, and out popped peccadilloes by Livingston. [/p]Livingston couldn't live that one down, so he resigned his post as House Speaker-Elect and became a lobbyist -- but that's not all! He also launched a group called "Center for Democracy" which was going to "monitor elections." This group also featured several good old boys from the tobacco industry and some mining companies.
  Former VoteHere test engineer Dan Spillane was looking into all this because he had been fired after he questioned the certification process on a touch-screen system in which he had identified 250 flaws. It was way back in November 2002 that Spillane told me, "The voting machine industry is a house of cards. And the certification and testing process is the bottom card in the house of cards." [/p] BUT DON'T RUN OUT OF THE ROOM TO TAKE A SHOWER YET. There's more.[/p]VoteHere was a company shilling cryptographic solutions and filled with NSA types (another director was Admiral Bill Owens, another crony of Rummy, Perle and Wolfowitz). For some reason this company claims it was unable to prevent itself from being hacked. In this alleged hack, VoteHere claims that someone stole their source code. Said source code was offered to me in October 2003, an obvious attempt at entrapment which I refused.[/p]Nevertheless, VoteHere claimed to the media that its master security experts had supposedly "tracked" the hacker and had identified the hacker as an activist in the election reform community. [/p]For some reason, it was decided that I should be investigated in connection with this "hack" of VoteHere -- nevermind that I can't remember how to change the password on my own laptop. Therefore I was interviewed by the Secret Service several times about this. Curiously, they never seemed to ask any questions about VoteHere, only my role in finding the Diebold files and publishing the Diebold memos. [/p]This nonsense eventually culminated in a gag order and a letter from the U.S. Attorney to appear in front of a federal grand jury with information on all the visitors to the Black Box Voting Web site. (As if they couldn't get that in less dramatic ways in post-Patriot Act America). [/p]Attorney Lowell Finley (now with [a href="vny!://www.voteraction.org/" target="_blank"] vny!://www.VoterAction.org[/a]) went to bat for me on this. A reporter named George Howland from the Seattle Weekly also got wind of it. When it hit the press, and with Lowell Finley's help, their harassment of me stopped. [/p]VoteHere never sold any voting machines that I can find, but apparently did set up some deals to embed its cryptography into some voting systems. We found memos in the Diebold trash about VoteHere's crypto-crap, and Maryland Director of Elections Linda Lamone shows up in VoteHere-related letters. Sequoia Voting Systems signed an agreement with VoteHere, but its not clear to me whether they ever did anything about it. [/p]Robert Gates stepped away from VoteHere shortly before he showed up in Chapter 8 of my book, Black Box Voting, in a short bit about the VoteHere company history. You can read that here:[/p][a href="vny!://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf" target="_blank"] vny!://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf[/a] [/p]I don't know about you, but I'd rather use a paper, pencil, and count by hand at the polling place than have former CIA director Robert Gates fooling around with my vote. [/p]But that's just me. [/p][a name="a"][/a]-- Bev Harris
Founder, [a href="vny!://www.blackboxvoting.org/" target="_blank"]Black Box Voting[/a] [/p]P.S. Since the HBO special, I have plenty of moral support, but even after the Secret Service interviews and all the rest of the nonsense my husband and I have had to put up with, there are others who have had it rougher.[/p]I'd like you to take a moment to visit this Web site -- not affiliated with Black Box Voting -- to meet one of the heroic citizens in this movement who has faced the most brutal retaliation of all: Stephen Heller. If you saw the HBO film "Hacking Democracy" you may remember a scene where I am chastising Diebold for lying about correcting problems with its product. I refer to "Release Notes." Those notes came from a source. Stephen Heller is being threatened with up to five years in prison for allegedly leaking me those documents. Kevin Shelley then decertified Diebold, and recommended criminal prosecution of Diebold. Diebold was never prosecuted, but Stephen Heller is being prosecuted RIGHT NOW. I hope you will donate to his defense. If not for citizens like him, where would your vote be now? [/p]To contribute to Stephen Heller's defense fund:
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Adam_Fulford

[div style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;" class="ItemHeadline"][a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com"]Zogby 'Exit Poll' of San Diego's CA50 Busby/Bilbray Election Suggests 6-Point Distortion in Announced 'Results'[/a]

[/div]                   [div style="font-weight: bold;" class="ItemSubHeadline"]Election Attorney Paul Lehto Blames Registrar Mikel Haas' Administration of Election, Refusal to Properly Count Paper Ballots for Discrepancy[/div]                            [div style="font-weight: bold;" class="ItemSubSubHeadline"]Says, 'Abuse of Discretion' Improperly Delayed Count of Paper Ballots, Creates 'Second Class Ballots, Voters'[/div]                       [!-- Print the time the article was posted --][!-- The article content --]                           [!-- [div class="post-content"] --]                [img]vny!://www.bradblog.com/Images/BusbyBilbrayWhoWonWhoKnows.jpg" align="right" border="0" hspace="6" vspace="3"]This just in from attorney Paul Lehto concerning the People's Republic of San Diego, where one of the country's most irresponsible Registrar of Voters, Mikel Haas defied the California Secretary of State by refusing to count paper ballots as "normal ballots" on Election Night.[/p] Lehto says Exit Polling data commissioned from Zogby International shows a '6-Point Distortion' from the "results" as so far announced by Haas' office in the Francine Busby/Brian Bilbray U.S. House election in California's 50th Congressional district.[/p] The complete results of the Zogby polling is [a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com/Docs/BusbyBilbrayExits-CA50thFINAL.pdf"]available for download here [PDF][/a].[/p] NOTE: Busby (D) has appropriately [a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com/?p=3765"]refused to concede[/a] the race against her opponent Bilbray (R) until all votes have been properly counted. As of this moment, the [a href="vny!://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/voters/results/general.xml"]San Diego County Registrar's website[/a] shows "100%" of precincts reporting despite thousands of uncounted paper ballots, absentee ballots and provisional ballots. Those "results" show Bilbray leading Busby 53% to 43%.[/p] In fact, however, given Haas' [a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com/?p=3685"]defiance[/a] of the California Secretary of State's order to provide an adequate number of paper ballots for all voters who, in California, may vote by paper for any reason if they wish, coupled with his irresonsible — and likely illegal — decision to send all of the county's pre-programmed, election-ready, hackable Diebold touch-screen voting systems home on "sleepovers" with pollworkers for a full three weeks prior to the election, it is literally impossible for there to be any confidence in any of the reported "results" as announced for any election this year in San Diego. The county's elections are now officially and wholly corrupted by Haas' abominable and disgraceful election administration, fed by his apparent loathing of voters and democracy.[/p] ALSO NOTE: The [a href="vny!://velvetrevolution.us/ElectionStrikeForce"]VelvetRevolution.us Election Strike Force[/a], of which [a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com/"]The BRAD BLOG[/a] is a co-founder, contributed to the funding of this Zogby poll. Please consider [a href="vny!://www.velvetrevolution.us/donate.php"]donating to VR[/a] in support of such efforts![/p] Lehto's press release follows in full...[/p] [div class="document"]FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - NOVEMBER 10, 2006
 Contact: Paul Lehto, Esq., 425.422.1387 [p align="center"]CA 50 EXIT POLL ESTIMATES 6-POINT DISTORTION ENABLED BY REGISTRAR'S ABUSE OF DISCRETION[/p] [p align="center"]Haas' Decision To Delay Paper Ballot Count
 Artificially Inflates Votes For Republican
[/p] November 10, 2006 San Diego, CA – Attorney Paul Lehto, a national expert on election integrity, today released the results of an independent Zogby exit poll of voters in the November 7 election in California's 50th District. The exit poll shows the race much tighter than the results published by the San Diego Registrar of Voters as of the day after the election, six percentage points closer. Moreover, after adjustment for an oversampling of Bilbray voters, the adjusted poll shows Democrat Francine Busby well within the margin of error, making the race uncertain in actual outcome. Paper based votes yet to be counted favor Francine Busby, such as paper ballots obtained at the polls, which constitute 6.4% of all voters and favor Busby 58% to 39%.[/p] The poll also contains important findings about the relationship between different forms of voting and voter demographics, revealing a tendency for Democrats to use paper ballots versus other forms of voting such as electronic machines. In violation of state and federal law, and despite lawsuits filed to stop the process, San Diego Registrar of Voters Mikel Haas delayed the paper ballot count for paper ballots obtained at the polls by fully qualified voters, preferring to have other forms of ballots have been counted preferentially first, attempting to justify this second class service to paper-based voters by stating "this is an electronic election" when in fact the public is legally allowed a choice of either technology.[/p][/div]  [/p] [div style="font-weight: bold;" class="MoreText"][a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com/?p=3772#more-3772"]— Click here for REST OF STORY!... —[/a][/div]

Adam_Fulford

jay wrote:
 crying foul.  But it is laughable that your 'voter fraud' has dropped by the wayside now that you seem to have the results you wanted.  And if the elections had tipped the What happened to all the ranting and raving about 'voter fraud' on this board?  Oh.... you got what you wanted, so of course, it didn't happen.  It just happened in 2004, and in 2000.  You won't hear meother way?   ...well, we all know what your reaction would be to that, don't we?  So what is it like to have the ends justify the means?  

[br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191); font-weight: bold;"]Check this out.  It's not so pretty when the tables are turned, is it, jay?

AF  [/span]

[table class="contentpaneopen"][tbody][tr][td class="contentheading" width="100%"]             Santorum Calls For Machines To Be Impounded                        [/td]                      [td class="buttonheading" align="right" width="100%"]          [a href="jvascript:void window.DOH!('vny!://votetrustusa.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2012', 'win2', 'status=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=yes,titlebar=no,menubar=no,resizable=yes,width=640,height=480,directories=no,location=no');" title="PDF"]          
         [/a]          [/td]                      [td class="buttonheading" align="right" width="100%"]             [a href="jvascript:void window.DOH!('vny!://votetrustusa.org/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2012&Itemid=113&pop=1&page=0', 'win2', 'status=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=yes,titlebar=no,menubar=no,resizable=yes,width=640,height=480,directories=no,location=no');" title="Print"]             
            [/a]             [/td]                      [td class="buttonheading" align="right" width="100%"]          [a href="jvascript:void window.DOH!('vny!://votetrustusa.org/index2.php?option=com_content&task=emailform&id=2012', 'win2', 'status=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=yes,titlebar=no,menubar=no,resizable=yes,width=400,height=250,directories=no,location=no');" title="Email"]          
         [/a]          [/td]                   [/tr]          [/tbody][/table]                              [table class="contentpaneopen"][tbody][tr]          [td colspan="2" align="left" valign="top" width="70%"]          [span class="small"]          By KDKA.com         [/span]                      [/td]       [/tr]                [tr]             [td colspan="2" class="createdate" valign="top"]             November 07, 2006            [/td]          [/tr]                [tr]          [td colspan="2" valign="top"]          [a set="yes" target="_blank" href="vny!://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2011&Itemid=1212"]View Letter from Pennsylvania Republican State Committee[/a]
[/p] [/p]In one of the most closely-watched US Senate races in the nation, some controversy started brewing before the polls even closed tonight. The race between the two-term Republican Senator Rick Santorum and Democratic Challenger Bob Casey has been a heated battle throughout the campaign from the political mudslinging to their contentious debate.

Now KDKA has learned that the Republican State Committee has sent a letter to the Secretary of State asking that voting machines in 27 counties that have been accused of being malfunctioning be impounded tonight

The issue has to do with reports that some of the electronic voting machines were not working properly.

Pennsylvania GOP officials claimed there were reports that some machines were changing Republican votes to Democratic votes. They asked the state to investigate and said they were not ruling out a legal challenge.

According to Santorum's camp, people are voting for Santorum, but the vote either registered as invalid or a vote for Casey.

Asked if the party would consider legal action, state Republican executive director Scott Migli said, "We've got all options on the table at this point. We feel like the electoral system has been left up to computer technicians."[/p] [/p][a target="_blank" href="vny!://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_311194635.html"]Read the Entire Article on KDKA.com [/a][/p][/td][/tr][/tbody][/table]
 
 

Adam_Fulford

  jay wrote:
 crying foul.  But it is laughable that your 'voter fraud' has dropped by the wayside now that you seem to have the results you wanted.  And if the elections had tipped the What happened to all the ranting and raving about 'voter fraud' on this board?  Oh.... you got what you wanted, so of course, it didn't happen.  It just happened in 2004, and in 2000.  You won't hear meother way?   ...well, we all know what your reaction would be to that, don't we?  So what is it like to have the ends justify the means?  


to describe you in a word:  predictable.


[span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"]American patriots who believe in the American Constitution are defending all Americans, whatever their political beliefs, since their rights are being violated in The War Against American Voters.  [/span][span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"]The War Against American Voters has not ended[/span][span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"].

Regards,
AF[/span][br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"]
[a href="vny!://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9004987&taxonomyId=17&intsrc=kc_feat"]Opinion: E-voting transition a disaster
A smooth transition to electronic balloting? Not so fast, America[/a]
written by Brad Friedman

November 10, 2006 ([a href="vny!://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9004987&taxonomyId=17&intsrc=kc_feat"]Computerworld[/a])

ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE SLAYS NINE
Terrorizes Florida in Thrill-Kill Rampage

That headline was from a satirical column written by Andy Borowitz published last Monday, the day before Tuesday's midterm elections. Unfortunately, given the post-election coverage by some of the nation's leading media -- or at least their headline writers -- it seems that only an event such as a Diebold voting machine becoming "unmoored from the floor and...trampling everyone and everything in its path," as Borowitz wrote, would qualify as anything more than a "glitch," "hiccup," "snag" or "snafu."

"Voting System Worked, With Some Hiccups," declared the AP headline on Wednesday. "Polling Places Report Snags, but Not Chaos," echoed The New York Times. "Hiccups"? "Snags"? Try telling that to the thousands of voters around the country who were unable to simply cast a vote last Tuesday because new, untested electronic voting machines failed to work. Monumentally. Across the entire country.

[a href="vny!://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=security&articleId=9004987&taxonomyId=17&intsrc=kc_feat"]CLICK HERE to read full article[/a]
 

weird al

But it is laughable that your 'voter fraud' has dropped by the wayside now that you seem to have the results you wanted.  And if the elections had tipped the [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]other[/SPAN] way?   ...well, we all know what your reaction would be to that, don't we?  So what is it like to have the ends justify the means?  

 Considering the hue and cry regarding the astounding "irregularities" that took place in the last two "elections", it's likely that this one was much more closely scrutinised than the other two were. So it's not surprising that there would less egregious examples of fraud this time around.

  If the Dems won by fraud, we could expect the Reps to find it and expose it. That doesn't seem to have happened.

  So what is it like to have the ends justify the means?  


I always thought that this phrase referred to the excuse that the desirability of a goal justified the  unworthy, or at least questionable, means used to reach that goal. How are you using it here, jay? What ends are you referring to? What means?

Adam_Fulford

[a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com/?p=3782"]Jeb Bush Admits Problems with Florida U.S. House Race Featuring 18,000 Missing Votes
After State Denials, Says It's 'Obviously Something We Need to Look Into, And Very Quickly'[/a]
[a href="vny!://www.bradblog.com/?p=3782"]
vny!://www.bradblog.com/?p=3782[/a]

The Ghost of Katherine Harris' Old Seat Continues to Haunt Florida's 13th Congressional District Race...

After the state's initial denial that there were any problems in Florida's 13th Congressional District U.S. House race, even Jeb is now admitting there may be problems "worth investigating". From AP...
Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday the unusually high number of voters who didn't choose a candidate in a congressional race in Sarasota County was worth investigating, and said the state has "the law in place to do it right."

"This is obviously something we need to look into, and very quickly," Bush said as state elections officials prepared to oversee an expected recount next week in the 13th District race between Republican Vern Buchanan and Democrat Christine Jennings.

Jennings was behind in the initial count by 373 votes and was pressing for answers about why more than 18,000 voters didn't register a selection in the race, but did make choices in other contests. That rate was much higher than what the district's other counties registered in the same congressional race.

State elections officials planned an audit of the Sarasota County's election system after the recount, which is expected to occur next week.