Good Times wrote:
While we await clarification from Adam...
[FONT color=#a040ff]I don't know which moderator submitted his ip for banning or if he really got banned. [/FONT]
purelife wrote:
... most of us use instinct and damn common sense when we delete a post or submit an ip for submission.
I'm glad DV mods don't rely solely on instinct or even common sense to survive. Because from what I've observed, they're wholly inept at using either!
[FONT color=#a040ff]If you don't use common sense, meaning deleting porn pictures, racist "I hate ch*nks..etc" then how do you suggest we base our deletions? We can't make everyone happy. Some are really happy and some, like yourself, are just f*cking pissed. C'est la vie in the balance of the jing and jang crap.[/FONT]
As is the tradition on DV totally irrelevant, frivilous posts get deleted (because a hysteric mod happens to be PMSing or having some shitfit that day) however racist crap is left to fester for days.
[FONT color=#a040ff]I wish that there was a "Report to Moderator" button that others can click to send that post for examining. Otherwise, NO ONE CAN USE THE F*CKING EXCUSE THAT ALL OTHER THREADS REMAIN UNCLEANED FOR DAYS! Hey, and no one would help by pointing them out to us. How long do you think it takes to view all posts on ONE PAGE?! More than an hour, for sure! More than half an hour of my time at WORK! One morning, I'd wake up to dv at work and find disturbing pictures on each and every thread on the first page and then on the second, blank topics, about 20 or so. That took me about an hour just deleting, hitting the back button and repeating these steps over and over again. [/FONT]
Oh and don't you dare criticize the holy mods - those posts get deleted instantly.
And more often than not totally wrong IPs are submitted for banning:
Why was P.C. banned...? Oh she was on a shared IP,
Why was Adam Fulford banned...? Oh he was on a shared IP,
Why was Good Times banned...? Oh he was also on a "shared IP"
Get fk'ing real, will ya?!
[FONT color=#a040ff]We do have lives. Our lives don't revolve around dv. There are about 10 moderators at the moment and most of them, don't have the time to mod like they used to. However small or great the number is, we still get complaints. [/FONT]
[FONT color=#a040ff]As far as how they got banned, I don't know. Do I need to know on behalf of the moderators? It's hard to keep track of bannings and sometimes, the admins do banning themselves and we wouldn't know. Is that fair? Who knows. I guess that we'll take all the blame for everything that goes wrong on the dv forum. Heck, if anyone else wanted to, blame us for crap on the Clubvibes site as well. I think that it's totally fair and EASY to blame moderators for EVERY F*CKING ERROR THAT GOES ON. DV has become a day time soap. Days of Our Lives on DV after the Bannings Part 2. :P[/FONT]
For the record I'm on dynamic IP, no one is sharing my connection. Never has, and never will!
I see that you have this handy excuse of "shared IPs" now and you will be milking it for all it's worth, aren't you? [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/konfus/a014.gif" border=0] Do you even have a clue as to how these things work?
What're the chances of 2 people's sharing the same IP visiting the same site day after day?
The fact remains: The incompetent mods/admins have banned hundreds of wrong people so far!
[FONT color=#a040ff]Yes, I'm sure that some innocent people couldn't make their way to dv because of the particular ip address that is used by other trolls. What would you do in an unregistered forum? Ban the troll's ip address knowing that the troll responses are much greater than helpful responses? Or, would you just keep that ip in hopes that these trolls will change and more nice people can visit the forum? Or, just continue deleting crap in hopes that these trolls give up? NOTHING seems to make people like yourself happy. And, I'm not about to make you happy or think differently about the moderators. I just want you to know my life as a moderator. :P[/FONT]
It's like a dentist pulling the wrong tooth, surgeon cutting the wrong organ... and they have been consistently wrong!
DV mods aren't even capable of reading a simple IP associated with a post. What's more, those retarded admins who do the actual banning don't bother verifying the information given to them. So abuse and incompetence is rampant at all levels in that shithole.
So you tell me: How're we not supposed to get annoyed?
> And most of all, no moderator can do a 24/7 job FOR FREE! We are so unappreciated it's not even funny anymore. Most importantly, nothing is genuine coming from these "new" owners.
I know, it's a thankless job. But at least in your case I see that your common sense has started to prevail, esp. with regards to your observations about the new owners...
Not genuine, ha! Try "user" (ie. meaning, people who like using others to get them to serve their interests.)
Yes, you're correct. Have you met the CZ staff yet? Have you talked to Elkay...? Mind you they're not "bad" people per se. They'll remain your "friend" so long as you agree to serve their interests, preferably for free.
However once you cease to be useful for them, then you're disposable.
> Why haven't I quit moderating? Just because I still feel a part of dv and please, refrain yourself from giving me the lecture of "being in a co-marriage" crap.
Considering that you can't even quote what I said properly (however you still call it "crap") indicates to me and to everyone else, how little you understood what I was referring to.
In an earlier message you were trying to quote, I was referring to co-dependent relationships. I'll let you do the research on that.
This business of not fully understanding what's being talked about (due to lack of English proficiency) but deleting our posts anyway, has been one of the major issues on DV as well.
Many people have complained and nothing has been done about it. I could tell particularly when Orca wrote while disguising herself as a mod. Because her grammatical errors are so consistent: She never learned the passive voice, proper use of plurals, or how to conjugate the third person singular in simple present tense...
How are we not supposed to get annoyed when our posts are deleted without even being understood?! [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/boese/a020.gif" border=0]
[FONT color=#a040ff]Ok, here we go again about complainers that some moderators can't speak a word of english nor can they write properly. We can read and write and all of us have jobs and most of us compeleted schooling at a university level. So? I think that we're not dumb to not know the difference between a racist post versus a non racist post. I'm sure you know, right? Should I go on now and give you my life qualifications? So what, I didn't graduate from university holding a degree. Do I need one to moderate dv? I'll just go get a prof to sign some paper for me, k? So what if I'm not born in Canada? I'm "categorized" as an ethnic minority. Should I be "Canadian" and "White" to moderate dv? Should my mother-tongue be English? Will that make you people more happy? To know that moderators speak fluent English? [/FONT]
How can we have any sympathy (let alone appreciation) for you guys, when you treat everyone with such arrogance and total disrespect?
[FONT color=#a040ff]It's so easy and CONVENIENT for you to blame the moderators for their lack of everything, huh? Do you blame your g/f for everything that goes wrong in the relationship? (I'm assuming that you have one or perhaps have had one here.)[/FONT]
> Being a moderator is totally different than being a poster on dv. And to have both, I already feel the responsibility ever since I had moderating, yet limited, "powers."
I'd think that it's up to you to attain those powers. You have to ask for them, however be prepared to act if you're denied.
> Ok...throw your tomatoes at me. I'm ready! :P
No tomatoes, just the facts. [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="vny!://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/konfus/a050.gif" border=0]
Please understand that I have nothing against you a person. But I hate the way DV treats its visitors.
[FONT color=#a040ff]Hey, I don't have anything against you either. But as soon as you start to utter wrong facts out of your mouth, I can't be heartless and sit back in my chair and let you throw these onto the ds site. And, I can't speak for other moderators as well. [/FONT]
