Census - Anyone not fill in their census?

Started by Lise, May 18 06 05:06

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Lise

Wondering if anyone from BC not fill in their census?

  I've done mine... just wondering if ppl here have fill in their census or whether they'll stick it to the man and not do it.
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Bill Cosby.

kitten

I got the impression that I could lose my pension if I didn't fill it in, so I sent it back the day I received it.  I was lucky, though.  They sent me the short form.
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Alumni

I saved it for the last minute.

Took way too long especially since I'm filling it out for my family.

  Anyway, I'm part of Canada's 32 million. I'm sure there are many who don't do this civil deed. Stats Canada will give an estimate of the population - including homeless and others.
"People Who Don't Make a Commitment to Me Don't Get My Time" - Annonymous CEO

Sportsdude

I heard somewhere that if you don't fill it out you will disapear from the record books in the future.
"We can't stop here. This is bat country."

kitten

I believe it is 92 years from now, but I won't be around to worry about it.
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Orik

You can [A href="vny!://www.countmeout.ca"]www.countmeout.ca[/A]    not gona do it , i belive it is a invasion of my private life  so i told the cesus person to count me out . i also find the candian government to be complete dumbasses to alowe  loukheed martin  one of the Us's largest defence contracted companies to  take all the info and file it for us.... bah  talk about feeding the  NWO .

i have huge trust issues and i do not trust the company  to not peek and feed the info back to american agents.  ( which is just what it will do ) .... sheep u r and be ... boycot the census    

Lise

Whoa Orik. You're pretty brave. Aren't you afraid of the stiff penalties? I guess you are entitle to your rights.... only this time you may pay the price for it.
Always end the name of your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry.
Bill Cosby.

Orik

3 months in jail and a 500 dollar fine and a criminal record for disobeying a antiquated law . bring it on i will fight it all the way to the supreme court . i belive they have all the info they ever will need on me from the tax return i fill out every year.  thats all they need to know and all i am willing to give them .

what ever happen to our right to privacy our basic charterd rights  what ever happend to our basic constitution. nope i have no fear . i relish the idea of taken the legality of this all the way to the supreme court .

and if i win  :) now that would be the best , but considering all i will have is a legal aid lawyer i will prolly lose . but as i said 3 months in jail and a 500 dollar fine is a small price to pay .

  for my freedom of giving my personal info . i want the choice  i want it volentary . nothing should ever be mandatory . by damn .

  okay im ranting .      

Lise

Hmmm....... still pretty daring of you. Do keep us up-to-date on what's happening with you and your census stand there, Orik.
Always end the name of your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry.
Bill Cosby.

Orik

Will do Lise.

  if it goes to court i will invite u all thier for morall support :)  

Lise

Haha. Yeah, we'll be rooting for you...................... *cheerleader wave*
Always end the name of your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry.
Bill Cosby.

Dissident

A friend of mine emailed me this today:




Subject: Count me out of the census!

To the Honourable Industry Minister Maxine Bernier,

I am writing to express my deep concern that Lockheed Martin has received a contract to work on the 2006 Canadian census.

As I'm sure you are aware, Lockheed Martin is the largest defence contractor in the U.S. and in fact the world. The company not only makes weapons of mass destruction, but also directly benefits from the Iraq war and is leading the development of the "Ballistic Missile Defence
System"--two U.S.-led policies that Canadians have rightly opposed and rejected. I question why we are now supporting this company with Canadian tax payers' dollars.

Statistics Canada defends Lockheed Martin's involvement with the Canadian census because they say that Stat Can did not have the expertise to develop the needed software and hardware itself, and because Lockheed Martin won the contract through fair competition. First, I question why Stat Can is billing itself the world over as a leader in gathering and sorting information if it must rely on outside sources to develop this capability. I'd also like to point out that I am well aware that once a
contract is opened for bid in Canada, NAFTA ensures that American companies must be treated the same as Canadian companies, and this does not in fact allow for fair competition for contracts. The comparatively huge American market and economy (the "elephant") virtually ensures that
American companies will beat out Canadian companies the majority of the time.

I am also concerned because both Lockheed Martin and its Canadian subsidiary could potentially be asked to give census information to the U.S. government under the U.S. PATRIOT Act, should any census information, despite your assurances, fall into the company's hands.  Due to public outcry and a national boycott during the 2003 census test, Stat Can and Chief Statistician Ivan Fellegi now assure the public that the contract has been "changed" to ensure that no such information can be obtained by Lockheed Martin.  While I certainly hope this is true, I am also well aware that despite similar assurances from the U.S. Census Bureau over a million American census records were used by NASA as part of a terrorist screening study without the knowledge of U.S. citizens. I also wonder whether we should fully trust Lockheed Martin, a company that has been frequently marred by bribery, corruption, and human rights abuses. And even if I were to accept the premise that my census personal information is secure (and I don't) my other concerns, mentioned above, have not been allayed.

Due to my deep concerns, I plan on protesting Lockheed Martin's involvement in the census. I support the "Count Me Out" campaigns launched by ViveleCanada.ca and CountMeOut.ca.

I sincerely hope that you will look into these issues and support all of the Canadians like myself who don't want Lockheed Martin involved in the 2006 Canadian census.


Sincerely,

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So, if you want to be a xenophobe and not send in your census forms, here is a whole laundry list of objections.  

I guess I have a different perspective.  I understand the desire to protect one's privacy, but if that were the case, you probably wouldn't be on the internet receiving this information.  If you have a credit card, a mortgage, a bank account, even phone or electrical service, your name is on more databases than you can imagine.

I know someone who did contract work for NASA--believe me, they don't have the kind of information technology to do anything beyond compile statistical and demographic information.  Interestingly enough, this person also warned me about the kind of anti-Americanism that I have, in fact, encountered--thanks to a his experiences living in Canada in the 90s, after the firm he worked for was unable to find anyone in Canada qualified to fulfill his position.  That "huge American market and economy" elephant is sheer sour grapes, from my point of view.  Canadians can rest assured that their government has set such high boundaries for immigrants that those of us who have entered the country have done so on our own merits.  How many people with advanced degrees do you want to have in menial labour jobs before you understand that?

I'm not interested in being an apologist for Lockheed Martin--they are the lowest scum-sucking guttersnipes of the corporate world next to Halliburton, from my point of view.  But you know what?  So are Citicorp, Wells Fargo, HSBC, CIBC and a whole lot of other information-gathering entities with whom you are doing business right now.

I mean, honestly.  The Canadian government couldn't even stop some dumb putz who put together a bomb less than a kilometre away from where I live destined to blow up LAX.  The US and Canadian governments let billiions of dollars of counterfeit goods and illegal drugs inside their borders on a regular basis.  The American government can't even keep the records of its veterans secure.  

The governments are not the enemy--the banks, financial institutions and multinationals are.   Once you wake up and understand that, you'll realise that a simple form from the government is nothing compared to what you give up every time you use your Air Miles card.

Get real, people.

 
fenec rawks!