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Title: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on Apr 14 10 09:10
...to be remembered?
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Little Fish on Apr 14 10 11:59
Friendly, easy going, a nice person, honest and brave. Hopefully well liked.

 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on Apr 14 10 01:12
With love.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 14 10 01:25
Caring, sweet, forgiving, good mother, loyal  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 14 10 01:27
As one who became at peace with himself, familly and loved by them
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on Apr 14 10 01:37
Oh they're all superb.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 14 10 01:52
 Gopher wrote:
Oh they're all superb.

Yours was real good, "with love". How are we suppose to outdo that? lol kidding. No matter who you are there is always someone out there who loves you whether that person realizes it or not.
 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on Apr 14 10 01:57
Thanks heavens, we should always remember that when we have those periods of not loving ourselves.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 14 10 02:15
That always comes to mind when I hear of someone committing suicide.    
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 14 10 03:57
Gopher wrote:
 Thanks heavens, we should always remember that when we have those periods of not loving ourselves.[/DIV]
       Thats about all keeping me going forward right now but has more to do with being stressed out
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: P.C. on Apr 14 10 04:00
Was just listening to the story on the radio while driving home, about the young boy who killed himself in 2000 (? I think).  His mother was on there reading his goodbye note.  It was heartbreaking.  They were doing a live broadcast from Walnut Grove Secondary for Pink Shirt Day.

I don't know how a parent could bear that.
 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 14 10 04:04
suicide is so sad............  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Little Fish on Apr 14 10 05:22
Suicide is sometimes a forever solution, to a temporary problem. Sometimes it is a permanent problem but no solution. MS is a life time trapped in a body that degenerates around you. ALS. I can some times see why someone options out through suicide. But it is one of the most selfish acts.    
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: *Natasha on Apr 14 10 06:24
  I know a person who threatens and has even attempted suicide every time things go bad in her relationships no matter who they are with or how long they lasted. She's in a new relationship couple weeks later so why get that emotional about it? I've tried to convince her that professional help is what is best for her but she doesn't agree. She's an older woman too, 39/40 so you'd think at that age she would be more wise.

Little Fish-- do you have MS? If you'd rather not answer that's ok, I completely understand. I have to visits patients with that disease and the fighting spirit they exude is inspiring.
   

..and yes this is the same Natasha that's been posting, I'm waiting for my registration email so I have to use a variation of my name until I receive it.
 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Russ on Apr 16 10 07:48
Gopher wrote:
<DIV>...to be remembered?</DIV>


Over a beer with people smiling and laughing at my expense. Not crying or dwelling on the past.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Orik on Apr 17 10 05:20
^ I agree Russ

a wake, a chance for friends and family to party, to remember the good times, to talk about the bad and the ugly to love each other and celebrate the life they have. I want people to have a good time, to have fun, to laugh, I do not want any one to cry at my passing.

It is a time to grieve but not at the experience of life I lived it to the full for the nonce and will till the spark of life goes out. Take time to remember and think of the good, laugh at the things that were funny.. and weep not, for we shall see each other again, in another time &amp; another place..  This new mystery of the greatest fear of the greatest unknown.

It is a new beginning, on forward into the unknown, a time to travel, with no more fears, a freedom from pain, a chance to live once again.. Or onwards to heven or hell purgatory or rebirth.. I don't know what it is that comes after this life but I can only think it is going to be one hell of an adventure along the way..


 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 20 10 06:41
Orik wrote:
^ I agree Russ

a wake, a chance for friends and family to party, to remember the good times,

 That's easier to do when the person has lived a long full life. When the deceased is a younger individual it's hard to avoid that feeling of a young life cheated.  


 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Orik on Apr 20 10 07:14
Aye Natasha that is true, it is the rare occasion when a young person has lived a full life. but what is classified as young. Once upon a time, the average life expectancy was 33 to 38 years old. and now the average life expectancy is 70 years of age.

though ones average life expectancy  can increase or decrease to this mitigating situations / circumstances such as where you live on the planet, what your heritage / ethnicity is.   whether you are obese or not, &amp; if you are male or female.

The average life exspectancy of a first nations male in the down town east side is 54 years of age and 58 for a caucasion male. and for West Vancouver (north shore side)  the same life expectancy is 68 and 74 years of age respectively.

these may not be the exact ages I am going on memory from a TV show I watched 3 or 4 years ago and my memory is a bit fuzzy on the full details of that program. I think the ages are more or less correct with in 2 to 5 years of what the tv show was stating.

I wish I could find a link to that Special it was a tv special on global I remember that much =( but who did it, for the life of me has left my fuzzy brain pan for the depths of the abys, I blame learning about the snailfish for making me forget =D

 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 20 10 08:07
Natasha wrote:
 Orik wrote:
^ I agree Russ

a wake, a chance for friends and family to party, to remember the good times,

 That's easier to do when the person has lived a long full life. When the deceased is a younger individual it's hard to avoid that feeling of a young life cheated.  


 
     I agree
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 21 10 11:18
Orik wrote:
Aye Natasha that is true, it is the rare occasion when a young person has lived a full life. but what is classified as young. Once upon a time, the average life expectancy was 33 to 38 years old. and now the average life expectancy is 70 years of age.

I think everyone has an idea of what is young (numerically speaking). Who is going to look at someone in their 90's and say "bless his heart, he died young"? When I say young, I mean young. Babies, toddlers and children. They are young no matter how much the average life expectancy changes.
 
 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Orik on Apr 21 10 12:47
What age do you place a cap the young at then... I consider any one under 20 as young.

Death is never a good thing, but sometimes it is a freedom....


 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 21 10 03:22
25 and down
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Orik on Apr 21 10 10:41
and what age do you allow a person to commit suicide it is there choice and they wish to go throw euthanasia at what age do you allow some one to make that decision...

in this case and situation the death is painful it will be a very long time of suffering as they slowly slip away from the reality of this world there body rots around them... at some point they will be unable to do it for themselves but they want it done.. what age do you allow someone to say I have had enough &amp; I want to go home they want to be free from the pain they are in.

 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 22 10 05:17
Orik wrote:
and what age do you allow a person to commit suicide it is there choice and they wish to go throw euthanasia at what age do you allow some one to make that decision...

in this case and situation the death is painful it will be a very long time of suffering as they slowly slip away from the reality of this world there body rots around them... at some point they will be unable to do it for themselves but they want it done.. what age do you allow someone to say I have had enough &amp; I want to go home they want to be free from the pain they are in.

 
 Allow? I'd never "allow" a person to commit suicide. Why would anyone allow another human being to do that? What type of person would seriously think a suicidal individual is capable of making proper decisions? Sometimes a body just needs to be taken care of regardless of age. If a person really loves you (not neceassarily a spouse either) that person will make decisions for you based on what they're more coherant mind feels is best. They will do some type of intervention. They will allow your burdens to be their own and help you through them all. It's inhumane to allow someone to end their own life.

  As for your example- with modern medical field being what it is now, most people don't suffer in pain. There are medicines, places and even jobs devoted solely to making ones suffering and last days minimal. "at some point they will be unable to do it for themselves but they want it done.." well if they are unable to do it for themselves but want it done then they aren't commiting suicide are they? They're asking you to murder them... totally different.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Orik on Apr 22 10 06:12
I disagree. but that is neither here nor there. euthanasia is not murder. and suicide is a personal option, true it is selfish but I can understand the reason behind it. Some people do not want to live on machines or spend their remaining time in a hospital slipping away Natasha...

 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 22 10 07:14
I understand that Orik. And that is why a person can in advance sign legal forms stating what to do in such cases so that major decisions that would burden ones soul aren't places upon another person. At some point in time as an adult everyone should get these types of things in order.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 22 10 04:09
Give me a beer and a fishing rod and send me out to sea...........
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Russ on Apr 23 10 04:06
DDD wrote:
<DIV>Give me a beer and a fishing rod and send me out to sea...........</DIV>


I agree! <bless> Great idea there

Um on the fishing part not on sending you out to sea.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 27 10 05:21
well if i am going to die ........ out to sea with my fishing rod in hand ...........cooler full of beer........."I" phone so I can look at porn...hey i am not dead yet.......LOL........and a nice fat one.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on Apr 27 10 07:34
 DDD wrote:
well if i am going to die ........ out to sea with my fishing rod in hand ...........cooler full of beer........."I" phone so I can look at porn...hey i am not dead yet.......LOL........and a nice fat one.
So you'd rather leave this world watching people have sex instead of actually doing it? ;)
 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on Apr 28 10 04:07
LOL........you so bad............if i could still have sex then OK sex it is  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Neeener on May 06 10 08:01
(http://i39.tinypic.com/11u97kn.jpg)  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on May 07 10 08:01
^ even if a person does things worth writing in time interest is lost. The attention span of society with each passing year decreases. Respect for others decreases. Passion for our past decreases. The only ones who will truely keep you alive in death are those who truely loved you.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 14 10 07:58
How would you like your steak?
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 14 10 10:34
My uncle committed suicide. He had MS and was confined to a wheelchair. He attempted suicide a couple times and his daughter found him and saved him once... understandably. But he was eventually "successful". Can't say I really blame him.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on May 14 10 10:53
 DDD wrote:
How would you like your steak?

My steak?

I like it well done. lol  I don't mean that in a pervy way but with you I just don't know what you mean sometimes.
 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 14 10 11:54
med - rare.....................I like my sex well done
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 14 10 01:57
I like it rare.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 17 10 11:08
How would you like to go water skiing
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 17 10 01:34
That's on my to-do list this summer.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 17 10 01:40
Itsy Bitsy wrote:
 That's on my to-do list this summer.[/DIV]
 cool.....................i know just the place
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 17 10 02:14
Your place?
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 17 10 02:36
Itsy Bitsy wrote:
 Your place? [/DIV]
 Well I did take one person from DV (BC Marie) up there a few years back..........
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Orik on May 18 10 05:08
and no one has seen her since...  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Neeener on May 19 10 01:55
Hey I preach this all the time to people, go spend some time with your elders and the kids in the family if possible, even a phone call once a week mean so much.
Your time is more valuable than gold to them.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/wjgbjt.jpg)  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: P.C. on May 19 10 03:05
Nice thoughts Neener. (http:///forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/14.gif)  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Neeener on May 19 10 06:05
From the heart and I believe it. :) You should see some of the people I visit on occasion and my little Nephew, you can see the gleam in their eyes.
Funny thing about a lot of old people, all you have to do is sit and listen. They will tell you a lot of history sometimes, and likely the same story a few times, lol  Really it's worth it for both of you in the end.
 
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: P.C. on May 19 10 07:28
 You're so right Neener.  One of the biggest problems, is that often we learn that just after it's too late.    
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 20 10 07:26
P.C. wrote:
You're so right Neener.  One of the biggest problems, is that often we learn that just after it's too late.    
       SO TRUE
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on May 20 10 08:17
P.C. wrote:
You're so right Neener.  One of the biggest problems, is that often we learn that just after it's too late.    
   True and some never learn it at all. Society just doesn't respect their elders like they once did.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 20 10 09:42
you all must be OLD              [img border=0 src="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif"]
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 20 10 01:04
I like hearing elders tell stories about their life. They come from a much more interesting time imo and have had amazing experiences. The only problem is, if you're around the same elders often enough, they tell you the same stories over and over and over. That I can't stand.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on May 20 10 01:31
You'd never get tired of listening to mine.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on May 20 10 06:24
Itsy Bitsy wrote:
 I like hearing elders tell stories about their life. They come from a much more interesting time imo and have had amazing experiences. The only problem is, if you're around the same elders often enough, they tell you the same stories over and over and over. That I can't stand.[/DIV]
 lol.. neither can I but I try to keep in mind that they're old and are probably a little mental.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on May 20 10 06:25
Gopher wrote:
 You'd never get tired of listening to mine.[/DIV]
 We're ready to read whenever you're ready to type.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 21 10 09:31
Are you an elder, gopher?
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: P.C. on May 21 10 01:45
I'd ask for a clear definition of elder before I answered if I were you.  You might be able to fudge a full decade if you play your hand right.  I remember when I was 20, I thought 35 was elder.   (http:///forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/4.gif)  
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on May 22 10 09:14
To me an elder is someone in their 80's. Actually, I my mind says "Gosh, they're friggen old". So I guess elder (imo) would be 60-70's. It's hard to tell really these days. People live longer and are more active.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 25 10 09:01
Yeah some 60 year olds seem so young to me, whereas some seem freaking ancient. 80+ would certainly qualify as elder, but 60-80 would probably depend on the person.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on May 25 10 01:12
In that case, I'm an older rather than an elder.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Itsy Bitsy on May 25 10 01:39
^ a young at heart one too it seems. Most 60+ year olds I know don't quite get how to use internet forums.  :p  :)
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Natasha on May 26 10 05:49
^ very true. Even some younger (numerically speaking/typing) than that. The fact that Gopher seems to be so computer savvy has me wondering what else does he do online? [img border=0 src="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/8.gif"]
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on May 26 10 07:21
Very little.
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: DDD on May 26 10 10:24
Gopher wrote:
 Very little.[/DIV]
 LOL..................How true for most
Title: Re: How would you like...
Post by: Gopher on May 26 10 10:25
But only a few are brave enough to admit it!