That site sucks along with the small number of jerks that post there. Right wing extremists like more tea vicar, mr beeg, cc la femme, twilight turtle, oscar mayer post disgusting gay porn daily, there have even been pics of underage girls. These sickos play around on that site because they have no lives of their own and probably small dicks
FLANGE wrote:
That site sucks along with the small number of jerks that post there. Right wing extremists like more tea vicar, mr beeg, cc la femme, twilight turtle, oscar mayer post disgusting gay porn daily, there have even been pics of underage girls. These sickos play around on that site because they have no lives of their own and probably small dicks
We know. That's why we're here instead of there. It's easy to be a dickhead; it's considerably harder to be nice or polite (or at least civil). I think this image from [a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/"]Penny Arcade[/a] explains DV quite clearly:
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Guys - I would not listen to this Flange - He or She has been banned from DV foir trolling and posting porn
This "FLANGE" is just some idiot. The posters he has mentioned do not post gay porn. There are no pics of underage girls. There has been a nutjob spammer posting gross pics lately which are instantly deleted. I wouldn't be surprised if this "FLANGE" is that very person.
Hey Qwerty - Stop defening the little shit.. It is Flange alright no question
chris wrote:
Hey Qwerty - Stop defening the little shit.. It is Flange alright no question
I think this Qwerty is an imposter
umm y do all the I.S.P numbers read the same IP address except tehborks
More Tea Vicar wrote:
chris wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]Hey Qwerty - Stop defening the little shit.. It is Flange alright no question[/div] [div style="font-style: italic;"] [/div] I think this Qwerty is an imposter
I couldn't care less about defending Flange. I have no motive to defend him. I'm just saying that we don't know for sure. The gross pic spammer on DV has been handlejacking real members.
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Wut's up doc wrote:
umm y do all the I.S.P numbers read the same IP address except tehborks
We wouldn't all have the same ip's because I have been only posting as Qwerty. Not to mention the fact that you can't see ip's. Amateur.
^ ^sez the little DV/memebee mod puke
STFU Queerty wrote:
^ ^sez the little DV/memebee mod puke
No, sez common sense since I've only been posting as Qwerty here and no other. You may be confused, but I'm not.
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[/DIV][/TD] [TD vAlign=top width="85%" height="100%"] [TABLE width="100%" border=0] [TBODY] [TR] [TD vAlign=center align=left][A href="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?topic=7174.msg165328#msg165328"][img alt="" src="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif" border=0][/A][/TD] [TD vAlign=center align=left][A href="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?topic=7174.msg165328#msg165328"][FONT color=#000000]Re: DV is a cesspit of porn and extremism[/FONT][/A] [DIV class=smalltext]« Reply #3 on: Jul 18 10 07:55 »[/DIV][/TD] [TD style="FONT-SIZE: smaller" vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right height=20][A onclick="if (!currentSwap) doQuote(165328); else window.location.XXXX = this.href; return false;" href="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?action=post;quote=165328;topic=7174.0;num_replies=10"][FONT color=#000000]Reply with quote[/FONT][/A] [/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE] [HR class=hrcolor width="100%" SIZE=1] [DIV style="OVERFLOW: auto; WIDTH: 100%"]This "FLANGE" is just some idiot. The posters he has mentioned do not post gay porn. There are no pics of underage girls. There has been a nutjob spammer posting gross pics lately which are instantly deleted. I wouldn't be surprised if this "FLANGE" is that very person.
There has been pics of underage girls posted on DV
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[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]what's up doc wrote: umm y do all the I.S.P numbers read the same IP address except tehborks [/span]
May I ask how you came to this conclusion ?
Yawns nothing new here. Flange trolling away. others Trolling. DV is a cesspit. there are some decent posters on every forum. There is always some obnoxious and foul mouthed posters as well. It is just here those foul mouthed obnoxious posters are normally very quickly given the boot out the door.
Which is why I still post here, it may be slower than the other forums but the ones that do post on here are usually kind, courteous & beneficial aka helpful. Some topics can get heated and trolling does still occur, heck that happens everywhere. Here the flame wars or trolling is done mostly in love with many lols to be had by all.
You are more than welcome to register a handle or to stay around and continue posting as a guest if you wish but only if you can be a decent poster. If you persist in being disgusting, foul mouthed or out right offensive the Admins on this here forum will quickly show you the exit.
So stay around & continue to post have some fun but mind your manners...
I have been there & done that, I changed my posting styles along the ways. I like DS it is a nice calm place, it is comfortable & feels like home. Most of the posters here are friendly, helpful and kind decent posters. Some of those kind courteous posters seem to be missing in action and missed.
[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]"Some of those kind courteous posters seem to be missing in action and missed.[/span]"
I miss them too. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/11.gif)
There are a lot of decent posters mixed in with the complete idiots. It's how it is on most forums.
FLANGE wrote:
That site sucks along with the small number of jerks that post there. Right wing extremists like more tea vicar, mr beeg, cc la femme, twilight turtle, oscar mayer post disgusting gay porn daily, there have even been pics of underage girls. These sickos play around on that site because they have no lives of their own and probably small dicks
Also note, there has never been underage porn posted.
FLANGE wrote:
That site sucks along with the small number of jerks that post there. Right wing extremists like more tea vicar, mr beeg, cc la femme, twilight turtle, oscar mayer post disgusting gay porn daily, there have even been pics of underage girls. These sickos play around on that site because they have no lives of their own and probably small dicks
Why you have to add Twilight Turtle, she one of the nicest persons on the forum, your posting this voids your creditability even as a Troll.
Neener, we already know Flange is just another troll. He is just one more obnoxious louts to add to the ranks. Their is just one subtle difference between this troll and most others. Flange decided to bring his trolling to D.S. perhaps thinking no one would recognize him as one or maybe he was hoping for more of an outrage on our behalf, nothing that happens on DV is that surprising anymore.
I know it's a troll, it even tried it on DV but people got wise to him soon as he posted, or at least I did.
I reply because some people might think he's real and has a real voice, I certainly don't care what he thinks.
I appreciate a good troll I even do it sometimes, but like the thread on DV, where did they all go ? It used to be kind of fun jousting with them.
Orik, you think that's the real Flange? LOL
Oh look, now I'm FLANGE too!
Actually I would like to sincerely apologize for acting the fool. Small penis syndrome and all that :( Please forgive my silly intrusions.
Exactly
DV sucks the end
Gordy posts here. Enough said.
Yup. He's racked up 2 posts in 2010. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/4.gif)
Uh huh wrote:
Gordy posts here. Enough said.[/DIV]
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Underage porn was indeed posted but the mods deleted it quickley or didnt recognise it? they should have taken more time to look at them and then inform RCMP
Was it the Miley Cyrus picture ? some of them was calling that porn. Anyhow it's easy to put anything on an Open forum, I don't think that is something to hold against one unless they didn't remove it.
Lately they have been really slow, that can and should be held against them. You don't need a forum of that type if it's not being modded.
I don't know who is handling it now but they are dropping the ball.
^ no it wasnt miley cyrus! it was vile girl on girl or tranny and and posted on about 20 threads.
Smelly wrote:
Underage porn was indeed posted but the mods deleted it quickley or didnt recognise it? they should have taken more time to look at them and then inform RCMP
Funny, I've never heard of it being posted nor have I ever seen it on DV. You'd think it was posted there would have been a slew of comments about it. Nothing. Quit making shit up.
Smelly wrote:
^ no it wasnt miley cyrus! it was vile girl on girl or tranny and and posted on about 20 threads.
I didn't see it thankfully but I hope they deleted it soon enough. Besides the pedo part I think it couldn't be worse than the poo butt stuff posted the other day.
Most of it had a gay edge to it. Thats the thing about homophhobes they are usualy homosexuals in denial
P.C. wrote:
[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]"Some of those kind courteous posters seem to be missing in action and missed.[/span]"
I miss them too. [img style="font-style: italic;" src="/forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/11.gif[/img]
Yep....I miss tenkani and a few of the others.
Yup. He sure had a way of breathing life into anything.
I miss Lil Me too. Always got a laugh from her quick wit.
DV was good way back when..........
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MISERABLE PUNKS!
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you check under your bed every night just to be sure RDL isn't hiding there don't you?
LOL............with that boy you never can tell.......thank god he lives on the island
DDD, so tell us, what's the schedule for the Bitter Bus? You're obviously a driver.
Honk Honk wrote:
DDD, so tell us, what's the schedule for the Bitter Bus? You're obviously a driver.[/DIV]
about what i can post at all those places...........DV is a shit hole now............use to be a great site............
I just call it as i see it
What's the matter, can't make up your mind as to who you want to pretend to be? (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif) lol
Looks like a case of split-personality to me. (Of course, you've got to actually have a personality for that to be an accurate diagnosis, I guess.)
[hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;"][table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" width="100%"][tbody][tr class="catbg"][td style="font-weight: bold;"]IP address[/td] [td style="font-weight: bold;"]Poster[/td] [td style="font-weight: bold;"]Subject[/td] [td style="font-weight: bold;"]Date[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Flange [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=7119.msg165518#msg165518"] Re: is dV server down? [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 09:24[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Smelly [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=7119.msg165526#msg165526"] Re: is dV server down? [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 10:52[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Slack Jawed [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=7171.msg165542#msg165542"] Re: Racists Reappear on DV [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 12:56[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Hard Facts [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=5242.msg165548#msg165548"] Re: Someone hacked DV [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:01[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Idiot Patrol [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=5242.msg165550#msg165550"] Re: Someone hacked DV [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:04[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] EED [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=7174.msg165555#msg165555"] Re: DV is a cesspit of porn and extremism [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:09[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Comeback Critic [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=5242.msg165557#msg165557"] Re: Someone hacked DV [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:13[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Spell Check [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=5242.msg165561#msg165561"] Re: Someone hacked DV [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:19[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Insanity [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=7174.msg165562#msg165562"] Re: DV is a cesspit of porn and extremism [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:28[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Salty's Mom [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=7171.msg165563#msg165563"] Re: Racists Reappear on DV [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:33[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] EED [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=7119.msg165564#msg165564"] Re: is dV server down? [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 01:41[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?action=trackip;searchip=207.195.249.251;"]207.195.249.251[/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] Spell Check [/td] [td class="windowbg2"] [a href="index.php?topic=5242.msg165570#msg165570"] Re: Someone hacked DV [/a] [/td] [td class="windowbg2"]Jul 21 10 02:24[/td][/tr][/tbody][/table]
Let that be a warning to any new asswipe posters like me. Unlike DV, Memebee, DATW and any other public forum for that matter, the mods here will expose your IP addresses when you act like a jackoff (the way I have).
Awww, did the widdle multiple handle-jacker get his delicate widdle feewings hurt? Oooooh, so sad.
Stop trying to impersonate the mods here, fool. And by "fool", I mean 'Flange', 'Smelly', 'Slack Jawed', etc etc. As for the rest of it, yes- you come here at your own risk. Remember that. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)
Management wrote:
Let that be a warning to any new asswipe posters like me. Unlike DV, Memebee, DATW and any other public forum for that matter, the mods here will expose your IP addresses when you act like a jackoff (the way I have).
Oh no! Not IP address exposure! The humanity!
I am going to haxor your web proxy! haha
(Sorry, I can't help but be a smart ass. Just having fun. I don't want my IP address exposed!)
TehBorken wrote:
Awww, did the widdle multiple handle-jacker get his delicate widdle feewings hurt? Oooooh, so sad.
Stop trying to impersonate the mods here, fool. And by "fool", I mean 'Flange', 'Smelly', 'Slack Jawed', etc etc. As for the rest of it, yes- you come here at your own risk. Remember that. [img border=0 src="/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif"]
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Management wrote:[/SPAN][BR style="FONT-STYLE: italic"][SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Let that be a warning to any new asswipe posters like me. Unlike DV, Memebee, DATW and any other public forum for that matter, the mods here will expose your IP addresses when you act like a jackoff (the way I have). [/SPAN]
LOL......................
I think the record should be set straight about DV - In the eyes and ears of many leftist anyone who has conservative views is a White Supremisist or Nazi. This would be typical of Flange - The guy is a pompous, arrogant, know it all little Brit that has made himself very unpopular on that forum.
I have posted on DV for many years and I have come across no Nazi's or child porn...
Don't beleive any of it...
Take6 wrote: [div style="font-style: italic;"]I have posted on DV for many years and I have come across no Nazi's or child porn...[/div]
I call bullshit. I've seen plenty of white power and pro-nazi comments on there. I haven't seen child porn myself, but trust me, I've seen loads of white power and pro-nazi comments. For you to say you haven't seen any borders on the ridiculous.
[span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"]'I haven't seen child porn myself[/span]'
I have. But that was a long time ago, and only on the occasion where a rogue troll exercised his stupidity. It was removed promptly.
TehBorken wrote:
Take6 wrote: [DIV style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]I have posted on DV for many years and I have come across no Nazi's or child porn...
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]I call bullshit.[/SPAN] I've seen plenty of white power and pro-nazi comments on there. I haven't seen child porn myself, but trust me, I've seen loads of white power and pro-nazi comments. For you to say you haven't seen any borders on the ridiculous.
What is your definition of Nazi and Whites power?
Take6 wrote:
What is your definition of Nazi and Whites power?
Overt racist comments claiming that whites are "superior", etc etc, and/or that other races (black, Asian, etc) are inferior or have some inherent negative characteristics. Trash-talking about non-white races.
Do they come right out and admit or state they're nazis? Not usually, but the sentiment is identical. I don't think you have to identify yourself explicitly as a "nazi" in order to make comments that echo the classic "nazi" or "white power" sentiments.
And let's not forget all of the "I hate muslims", "muslims suck", comments, and the comments about "n*ggers", "chinks", "ragheads", "pakis", "jews" and so on.
You can't tell me you haven't seen boatloads of those kinds of remarks. They were part of the forum every day when I was going there. Every. Single. Day. Maybe it's different now, but I wouldn't know, I haven't gone to DV in quite some time.
But feel free to go to DV and say that you "like Asian women" or that you think "Black or Asian women are attractive", and see how far you get. See what kind of responses you get.
I have seen some extreme comments on DV but no child porn. There have been some racist people posting on the board but there aren't as many as people like to invent.
Take6 wrote:
I think the record should be set straight about DV - In the eyes and ears of many leftist anyone who has conservative views is a White Supremisist or Nazi. This would be typical of Flange - The guy is a pompous, arrogant, know it all little Brit that has made himself very unpopular on that forum.
I have posted on DV for many years and I have come across no Nazi's or child porn...
Don't beleive any of it...[/DIV]
Oh great, another Flange groupie. Weren't you one of cc la femme's lackies who spouts off about hating Muslims all do-da-day or have I mistaken you for another poster?
Marty wrote:
I have seen some extreme comments on DV but no child porn. There have been some racist people posting on the board but there aren't as many as people like to invent.
Like I said, it's been quite a while since I was there, but at the time there was no shortage of them. AT times it seemed like 30% of the posters were on a racist rampage, day in and day out. Maybe it got better after I left.
Marty wrote:
Take6 wrote:
I think the record should be set straight about DV - In the eyes and ears of many leftist anyone who has conservative views is a White Supremisist or Nazi. This would be typical of Flange - The guy is a pompous, arrogant, know it all little Brit that has made himself very unpopular on that forum.
I have posted on DV for many years and I have come across no Nazi's or child porn...
Don't beleive any of it...[/DIV]
Oh great, another Flange groupie. Weren't you one of cc la femme's lackies who spouts off about hating Muslims all do-da-day or have I mistaken you for another poster?
You have probably mistaken me - You seem like a bit of loose cannon...
TehBorken wrote:
Marty wrote:[BR style="FONT-STYLE: italic"] [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]I have seen some extreme comments on DV but no child porn. There have been some racist people posting on the board but there aren't as many as people like to invent.[/SPAN]
[/DIV]Like I said, it's been quite a while since I was there, but at the time there was no shortage of them. AT times it seemed like 30% of the posters were on a racist rampage, day in and day out. Maybe it got better after I left.
I thought all those guys like Duce went to memebee.
Take6 wrote:
Marty wrote:
Take6 wrote:
I think the record should be set straight about DV - In the eyes and ears of many leftist anyone who has conservative views is a White Supremisist or Nazi. This would be typical of Flange - The guy is a pompous, arrogant, know it all little Brit that has made himself very unpopular on that forum.
I have posted on DV for many years and I have come across no Nazi's or child porn...
Don't beleive any of it...[/DIV]
Oh great, another Flange groupie. Weren't you one of cc la femme's lackies who spouts off about hating Muslims all do-da-day or have I mistaken you for another poster?
You have probably mistaken me - You seem like a bit of loose cannon...[/DIV]
So you are saying you didn't have your lips firmly planted on cc's ass?
TehBorken wrote:
And let's not forget all of the "I hate muslims", "muslims suck", comments, and the comments about "n*ggers", "chinks", "ragheads", "pakis", "jews" and so on.
But feel free to go to DV and say that you "like Asian women" or that you think "Black or Asian women are attractive", and see how far you get. See what kind of responses you get.
Schmoozer says he likes Asian woman a lot and even posts pictures. No one gives him a hard time over it. Everyone talks about what type of women they like and posts pictures to go along with their own comments.
As for the other referrences, I can't comment about. Some threads I do stay out of because some posters tend to get carried away with their opinion and how they choose to voice it.
Natasha wrote:
Schmoozer says he likes Asian woman a lot and even posts pictures. No one gives him a hard time over it. Everyone talks about what type of women they like and posts pictures to go along with their own comments.
Like I said, perhaps it's changed. Saying that there before would start a racist firestorm every time.
Oh I'm sure it's still around. But when you post a photo of a half nude hot female along with your comment people tend to be tolerant.
People post all sorts of hot pics on DV. Aside from the ladies, no one tends to complain.
Ladies? I've never seen any ladies complain about the hot pics posted on DV. Hell, some of us contirbute.
I don't mind the sexy pictures within reason of course, as long as they are over 19 and still clothed sexy pictures are fine.
What I do have problems with, is the blatant racism/fascism and the ongoing homophobia that is allowed to continue through out the years. I also have a problem with the DV admins and mods deleting everything that proves they support racism or that they are incompetent of the job they are in..
I am not sure which it is but I really am starting to think DV supports the racism that is allowed to proliferate within the site.
If you delete every little comment every made that might offend someone, you end up with a forum much like this with a handful of active posters.
Curious though why you aren't on memebee's case given the crap Duce posts. He posted a KKK wedding photo for Christ's sake.
[a href="http://discoverseattle.net/forums/index.php?topic=7286.0"]I am really seeing the truth in the fact, that DV supports racism and is Pro Nazi.You are starting to disgust me. D.V. You should really start doing something to curb the trend before it becomes as bad as that other forum. Has any one else gone to [span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"][span style="color: rgb(192, 0, 0);"]Memebee[/span] have you seen the crap they let be posted there? All those racist posters. [/span][/a]
Marty wrote:
If you delete every little comment every made that might offend someone, you end up with a forum much like this with a handful of active posters.
Yes and no. I think what you end up with is a decent place. DS has never been about trying to get loads of traffic, all people here want is a fun place where the community isn't littered with a**holes. If it turns out that that means a small number, personally I'm okay with that. I'd much rather have that than sifting through 500 posts that are all about hating muslims and blacks and asians etc etc etc. There's enough crap in my life, I don't need a bonus round or extra helpings, lol.
Curious though why you aren't on memebee's case given the crap Duce posts. He posted a KKK wedding photo for Christ's sake.
When you have a wide-open forum, that's the kind of stuff you get. Sad but true.
Ah I see. So discussions around contentious social, political and religious issues should be curbed and culled because they might contain some offensive material? Let's not talk about race, religion, politics, etc because there will be a**holes with opinions we don't agree with. I see. I find hearing another side of a debate important in solidifying my stance on an issue and perfecting rebuttal. It sounds like you guys have a problem with dissension if it doesn't agree with your own values.
In terms of Orik being up and arms over a picture, I have to say it was a lame attempt at a troll post and got far more attention when he jumped up and down about it than when it hit the board. I opened the post, say it was a pathetic troll, and moved on to the next topic. I suggest you learn to do the same or consider posting a statement about how distasteful you find two Asian chicks in front of a Nazi flag. That's the beauty of having an opinion. Then again, you might prefer posting in this isolated forum talking about what you last bought or are having for dinner.
Marty wrote:
Ah I see. So discussions around contentious social, political and religious issues should be curbed and culled because they might contain some offensive material?
No, that's not at all what I said. I think there's a big difference between a discussion of race (even a very spirited discussion) and 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS", don't you? I have no problem with offensive material in context, but that's not what 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS" is all about, is it? Is that what you consider a "discussion around contentious social, political and religious issues"?
If people want to discuss race, religion, whatever, that's fine. If you want to advocate killing muslims, jews, blacks, or asians, then no, it's not. At least not in my house.
It sounds like you guys have a problem with dissension if it doesn't agree with your own values.
I don't think so, but I can only speak for myself.
I suggest you learn to do the same or consider posting a statement about how distasteful you find two Asian chicks in front of a Nazi flag.
I saw the picture, it was no big deal. It's not at all what I'm talking about when I talk about racism. And if two Asian girls want to pose in front of a flag that represents a culture that would see them put to death for being Asian, that's their problem, not mine.
[FONT color=#8b8b8b]No, that's not at all what I said. I think there's a big difference between a discussion of race (even a very spirited discussion) and 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS", don't you? I have no problem with offensive material in context, but that's not what 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS" is all about, is it? Is that what you consider a "[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]discussion around contentious social, political and religious issues[/SPAN]"?[/FONT]
Where on DV do you see threads saying "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS"? This references the troll that was let lose on both DV and DS and the same actions were taken against this troll on both forums. But that's not what we are talking about here is it?
[FONT color=#8b8b8b]If people want to discuss race, religion, whatever, that's fine. If you want to advocate killing muslims, jews, blacks, or asians, then no, it's not. At least not in my house.
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Can't say I have seen those posts survive on DV either.
[FONT color=#8b8b8b]I saw the picture, it was no big deal. It's not at all what I'm talking about when I talk about racism. And if two Asian girls want to pose in front of a flag that represents a culture that would see them put to death for being Asian, that's their problem, not mine. [/FONT]
You see Bork, we have Orik jumping up and down screaming racism and fascism over that picture. It's misplaced labelling and further erodes the term racism. If everyone and everything is racist, how do you identify real racism? It's yelling wolf imho.
Marty wrote:
Where on DV do you see threads saying "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS"?
I used to see them frequently, but as I said (and according to what people have reported) it's changed since my experience.
You see Bork, we have Orik jumping up and down screaming racism and fascism over that picture. It's misplaced labelling and further erodes the term racism. If everyone and everything is racist, how do you identify real racism? It's yelling wolf imho.
To me the picture was no big deal. It's how the community responds. And it looks like it was a yawn, by all account.
It is not just that photo, it is the reaction of the Moderators to things that are ongoing.. things i find ludicrous.. I just had to say something.. by the way it was well thought out and it is not jumping up and down... but I do love the picture you are trying to paint with your words marty very impressive.
Thanks for taking the time out to respond. That is all I am asking of the other netizens and posters on the forums. I am asking for people to talk about these things, preferably in a civilized manor. To respond to the threads without resorting to name calling or using insults..
I am asking for good, clean, social discourse, to occur, on what I perceive to be an ongoing problem... but you know, as well as I, that the odds of that happening, are slim to none. There'll be just far to many trolls aka instigators for that to ever happen.
There are time's like this when I miss the comments from posters such as Tenkani and (schadeunfruade) (how ever that name is spelled). I sometimes find myself missing the flame wars & the open natured insults with the crew of posters, Posting amongst the likes of curses or Raging Poodle, let's not forget or random guy and far to many good posters that have left over the years.
And where is sheLise for goodness sake ? is she alright?.. then their is the other posters who have all left for places unknown over the years...
There is a time and a place for many things, even the flaming of a thread was done in a way to bring on social discourse. often the open pages went on and on and on. true it was often off topic BUT The social discourse was awesome..
We said whatever we had to say and no one really ever left feeling angry or slighted. We all had an opinion and the amazing thing is we listened to each other, even though we insulted one another or we did not agree with one another but at the same time we may not have always gotten along
there was a strange camaraderie within the DV community, that DV seems to be lacking now... back in the day, things where more chaotic, but at the same time, it was more civilized, mind that was civilized in it's own way.
Give and take, their's always something we will never completely agree on but sometimes things that do go on are just simply disgusting and this time I had seen enough. I might have chosen the wrong time to say something but damn it all I just had to say something.
Orik wrote:
[FONT color=#8b8b8b]It is not just that photo, it is the reaction of the Moderators to things that are ongoing.. things i find ludicrous.. I just had to say something.. by the way it was well thought out and it is not jumping up and down... but I do love the picture you are trying to paint with your words marty very impressive.[/FONT]
I think the moderators are doing a decent job of attempting to balance discussion while keeping the peace. I actually love the ability to have uncensored dialogue with relaxed censorship. There is a line. Many have crossed it and been added to the ban list. If you go over to Memebee, they constantly bitch that the mods are too tough.
[FONT color=#737373]Thanks for taking the time out to respond. That is all I am asking of the other netizens and posters on the forums. I am asking for people to talk about these things, preferably in a civilized manor. To respond to the threads without resorting to name calling or using insults..[/FONT]
[FONT color=#000000]Did you really just use anonymous forum and civilized in the same sentence? ha ha I actually love a lot of the insult wars that go on. It's hilarious to watch the progression. There are some real fire crackers over there.[/FONT]
[FONT color=#737373]I am asking for good, clean, social discourse, to occur, on what I perceive to be an ongoing problem... but you know, as well as I, that the odds of that happening, are slim to none. There'll be just far to many trolls aka instigators for that to ever happen. [/FONT]
[FONT color=#000000]Bingo![/FONT]
[FONT color=#737373]There are time's like this when I miss the comments from posters such as Tenkani and (schadeunfruade) (how ever that name is spelled). I sometimes find myself missing the flame wars & the open natured insults with the crew of posters, Posting amongst the likes of curses or Raging Poodle, let's not forget or random guy and far to many good posters that have left over the years. [/FONT][FONT color=#5b5b5b]And where is sheLise for goodness sake ? is she alright?.. then their is the other posters who have all left for places unknown over the years... [/FONT]
You may as well be talking Swahili. I am new here.
[FONT color=#737373]There is a time and a place for many things, even the flaming of a thread was done in a way to bring on social discourse. often the open pages went on and on and on. true it was often off topic BUT The social discourse was awesome..
We said whatever we had to say and no one really ever left feeling angry or slighted. We all had an opinion and the amazing thing is we listened to each other, even though we insulted one another or we did not agree with one another but at the same time we may not have always gotten along [/FONT][FONT color=#737373]there was a strange camaraderie within the DV community, that DV seems to be lacking now... back in the day, things where more chaotic, but at the same time, it was more civilized, mind that was civilized in it's own way. [/FONT][FONT color=#8b8b8b][FONT color=#000000]
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I still see that on DV. Watch some of the ladies go at it and you'll see it as well, specifically cc la femme and Realwoman. Those two go at each other like a couple of bitches in heat, but they do listen to each other. They have this argumentative dance they constantly partake it and goad each other into responding. I think they both enjoy their conversations even though they are on different sides of the fence. [/FONT]
[FONT color=#000000]If you look for something, you will find it over there - good or bad.
[FONT color=#737373]Give and take, their's always something we will never completely agree on but sometimes things that do go on are just simply disgusting and this time I had seen enough. I might have chosen the wrong time to say something but damn it all I just had to say something.[/FONT]
When I see something over there I don't agree with, I type a reply. Going at the mods in public will get you absolutely nowhere. From my experience, the mods seem to be willing to listen if nothing else. PM one or two and see where you get.[/FONT]
[FONT color=#737373]TehBorken wrote:
Marty wrote:[BR style="FONT-STYLE: italic"][SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Where on DV do you see threads saying "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS"? [/SPAN]
I used to see them frequently, but as I said (and according to what people have reported) it's changed since my experience. [/FONT]
I have been on DV, not DDV, for years. I can't say I have seen anything like that on the DV board. Now what went on over at DDV, I haven't the foggiest. It was a little too chaotic for my liking.
[FONT color=#5b5b5b]To me the picture was no big deal. It's how the community responds. And it looks like it was a yawn, by all account. [/FONT]
That tells me something right there. The DV community didn't even bat an eyelash at that crap because the posters realized it was a lame attempt at trolling.
Marty wrote:
[div style="font-weight: bold;"]Ah I see. So discussions around contentious social, political and religious issues should be curbed and culled because they might contain some offensive material?
No, that's not at all what I said. I think there's a big difference between a discussion of race (even a very spirited discussion) and 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS", don't you? I have no problem with offensive material in context, but that's not what 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS" is all about, is it? Is that what you consider a "discussion around contentious social, political and religious issues"?
If people want to discuss race, religion, whatever, that's fine. If you want to advocate killing muslims, jews, blacks, or asians, then no, it's not. At least not in my house.
It sounds like you guys have a problem with dissension if it doesn't agree with your own values.[/div]
I don't think so, but I can only speak for myself.
Well said TehBorken.
I'm curious Marty, when exactly have you seen that type of discussion curbed here, or are you just assuming that's what would happen.
P.C. wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]Marty wrote:[/SPAN][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"] [DIV style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"][SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Ah I see. So discussions around contentious social, political and religious issues should be curbed and culled because they might contain some offensive material? [/SPAN][BR style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]
No, that's not at all what I said. I think there's a big difference between a discussion of race (even a very spirited discussion) and 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS", don't you? I have no problem with offensive material in context, but that's not what 100 posts that say "KILL ALL THE N*GGERS" is all about, is it? Is that what you consider a "[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]discussion around contentious social, political and religious issues[/SPAN]"?
If people want to discuss race, religion, whatever, that's fine. If you want to advocate killing muslims, jews, blacks, or asians, then no, it's not. At least not in my house.
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]It sounds like you guys have a problem with dissension if it doesn't agree with your own values.[/SPAN][/DIV][BR style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"][SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"]I don't think so, but I can only speak for myself.[/SPAN]
Well said TehBorken.
I'm curious Marty, when exactly have you seen that type of discussion curbed here, or are you just assuming that's what would happen.
Who is advocating for the killing of Jews, Muslims, Blacks, Asians, etc on DV?
I was asking if you curb that kind of discussion. I asked because it seems contentious issues on DV are an issue for discussion here.
Once again I note: I have never seen anyone saying "Kill The N*ggers" aside from a known troll who's posts I don't consider to be a discussionable contribution to any board.
mv trollposts /dev/null/
Sorry, I am going to re-reply this. I meant to delete the stuff above and just post my post... (PS - your quoting set-up sucks ;)
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Who is advocating for the killing of Jews, Muslims, Blacks, Asians, etc on DV?
I was asking if you curb that kind of discussion. I asked because it seems contentious issues on DV are an issue for discussion here.
Once again I note: I have never seen anyone saying "Kill The N*ggers" aside from a known troll who's posts I don't consider to be a discussionable contribution to any board.
mv trollposts /dev/null/[/DIV]
Marty wrote:
(PS - your quoting set-up sucks ;)
If you have the skills, feel free to write a nicer one. I'll wait.
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I was asking if you curb that kind of discussion. I asked because it seems contentious issues on DV are an issue for discussion here.[div] [div]
We might, but it's hard to predict the future. (I always have a difficult time doing it reliably.) It's all done on a case by case basis but there's a good chance that if someone starts a "Kill The N*ggers" thread here that I or another mod would delete it. Why? Because we'd probably consider in inappropriate. There are plenty of places one can go to have that kind of discussion; this isn't one of them.
And before you go all "freedom of speech blah blah blah" on me, please understand that there's no more freedom of speech here than there is in my living room. There are lots of things you wouldn't let me do in your home, and it's no different here. There are some limits imposed, some things we won't tolerate or allow, and I personally don't lay awake at night feeling guilty over it.
In short, we reserve the right to do whatever we want as the situation warrants, just like you do in certain areas of your life. The users here are guests, not shareholders. Check the TOS; unlike the Constitution there's no right to free speech mentioned anywhere.
We're not obligated to provide anything for anyone at any time, regardless of whether or not a particular person feels it's fair or not. That includes providing an open forum with unlimited "free speech" or allowing stuff we don't like. In short, yes, there are some things we don't want here and won't go along with.
If you want that kind of forum, feel free to start your own. Run it however you like. Nothing's stopping you from doing that except yourself.
Once again I note: I have never seen anyone saying "Kill The N*ggers" aside from a known troll who's posts I don't consider to be a discussionable contribution to any board. [/div]
You never saw it so it didn't happen. Right. Look, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Several people here have said they've seen those kinds of posts (including me). I don't feel the need to try and convince you of what I saw, but if you want to dispute it, feel free.
TehBorken wrote:
Marty wrote:
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"] (PS - your quoting set-up sucks ;) [/SPAN]
If you have the skills, feel free to write a nicer one. I'll wait.
I do but I ain't gonna.
We might, but it's hard to predict the future. (I always have a difficult time doing it reliably.) It's all done on a case by case basis but there's a good chance that if someone starts a "Kill The N*ggers" thread here that I or another mod would delete it. Why? Because we'd probably consider in inappropriate. There are plenty of places one can go to have that kind of discussion; this isn't one of them.
As would it be deleted on DV so where's the beef?
And before you go all "freedom of speech blah blah blah" on me, please understand that there's no more freedom of speech here than there is in my living room. There are lots of things you wouldn't let me do in your home, and it's no different here. There are some limits imposed, some things we won't tolerate or allow, and I personally don't lay awake at night feeling guilty over it.
In short, we reserve the right to do whatever we want as the situation warrants, just like you do in certain areas of your life. The users here are [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]guests[/SPAN], not shareholders. Check the TOS; unlike the Constitution there's no right to free speech mentioned anywhere.
We're not obligated to provide anything for anyone at any time, regardless of whether or not a particular person feels it's fair or not. That includes providing an open forum with unlimited "free speech" or allowing stuff we don't like. In short, yes, there are some things we don't want here and won't go along with.
If you want that kind of forum, feel free to start your own. Run it however you like. Nothing's stopping you from doing that except yourself.
I believe in limits to freedom of speech. I understand that people set their own limits on their own forums and don't challenge that. If I don't like it, I know where I can go. Although racism is not illegal, I see no place for it on any forum I frequent.
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Once again I note: I have never seen anyone saying "Kill The N*ggers" aside from a known troll who's posts I don't consider to be a discussionable contribution to any board.[/SPAN]
You never saw it so it didn't happen. Right. Look, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Several people here have said they've seen those kinds of posts (including me). I don't feel the need to try and convince you of what I saw, but if you want to dispute it, feel free.
Note the topic here Bork. DV is a cesspit of porn and extremism. The example provided is Kill the N*ggers. No such thread or even sentiment currently exists on the DV board. If people want to use real examples, I would be happy to entertain them as they pertain to the claim, however, that isn't the case here. Kill the N*ggers was a thread I saw on this board no less, provided by a troll. You can try to turn it back on me and try to lay claim that I just missed it on DV, but we both know that's a crock of crap.
I won't challenge what DV used to be, but the topic at hand is in present tense. Presently, that crap isn't on DV. Would that denote improvement?
Listen, the point is, if you or anyone else here would like to make a claim based on real examples that actually exist, I would happy to have a discussion about it.
Marty wrote:
I do but I ain't gonna.
Then I guess you'll just have to live with it.
I believe in limits to freedom of speech. I understand that people set their own limits on their own forums and don't challenge that. If I don't like it, I know where I can go. Although racism is not illegal, I see no place for it on any forum I frequent.
Well then, apparently we're in total agreement. Case closed.
Note the topic here Bork. DV [strong style="font-style: italic;"]is[/b] a cesspit of porn and extremism. The example provided is [em style="font-style: italic;"]Kill the N*ggers.[/em] No such thread or even sentiment currently exists on the DV board.
I didn't say it currently exists. I said that at one time such subjects did exist. And for the record, perhaps you missed these comments of mine:
> "Like I said, it's been quite a while since I was there, but at the time there was no shortage of them."
and...
> "Like I said, perhaps it's changed."
and...
> "I used to see them frequently, but as I said (and according to what people have reported) it's changed since my experience." [/b]
Honestly, Marty, what part of "maybe it's changed since I last saw it" is hard to understand?
You can try to turn it back on me and try to lay claim that I just missed it on DV, but we both know that's a crock of crap.
So even though I personally did, in fact, see stuff like that there previously, your saying that you didn't see it somehow negates my experience and makes it false? It means it never happened? I don't think it works that way, lol. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif) Look, I saw what I saw. And not to belabor the point, but as I mentioned several times, apparently it's not that way anymore.
[/p]I won't challenge what DV used to be, but
[/p]Good, glad we got that settled.
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[/p][p style="font-style: italic;"]Presently, that crap isn't on DV. Would that denote improvement?[/p]Compared to my last impression of it, yes, it would. (For the record, please see above wherein I repeatedly state that it may have changed since I last saw it.) Hell, for all I know everyone just sits around there and sings Kum-bay-ya while holding hands.
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[/p]Listen, the point is, if you or anyone else here would like to make a claim based on real examples that actually exist, I would happy to have a discussion about it.
[/p]I'm all for it. Anyone with current experience there is more than welcome to have a go at it.
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So what are we debating here then? You haven't been there in ages. I am telling you that crap isn't there. The thread title is a load. End of story I guess.
The topic of the thread seems to have been started by someone from DV.....what can ya do. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)
I just noticed that but I suspect it was a DV impersonator rather than the member.
DV impersonator ? I didn't know they had those. lol
You know, the troll that runs around spamming anal pics on the board using variations of existing members names. This FLANGE isn't the FLANGE from DV.