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A transition from bad to worse...



Seeing that it's become virtually impossible to say anything remotely critical of the mods, except under their own self appointed threads which are also subject to their whims and can be deleted any second if they "don't like" what you have to say, I wanted to create a thread away from their reach, where people can express their opinions of the current DV mods.



Ultimately I intend to bring this thread to the attention of DV CEO Mike.  

 Sure, here's something I just posted on DV...

"Ok, well I just posted and somebody came in and deleted it.
 
 In response to the question about whether the mad deleter is someone "above the mods", my answer (which apparently struck a nerve) was that these actions don't seem in character for Mike the owner (who generally couldn't give two shits on a stick about DV as long as its pulling in traffic). It's also not in character for the admins, who have a long history of working quietly and peacefully behind the scenes.
 
 My conclusion was that since all this mess started in the last week, Mike obviously brought some new guns onboard around the same time he signed you up. These rogue mods, then, are the source of our troubles."

Basically, if you're wondering what's happening over on DV, there are/is some/an new mod(s) who are/is deleting HUGE numbers of threads. Lots of completely innocent, seemingly random stuff like a bump thread (just a silly little thread where people say "bump", wheee!), but also anything that is in the slightest bit critical (or even questioning) of the deletions.

 I posted the quote above on X's (he's a n00b mod, but seems Ok) VENT thread and it was immediately deleted.  

In a nutshell, I believe the current atmosphere at DV is serving no other purpose than fostering ill will between its users and mods.



I noticed SWOT4 has been trying to reason with them, but not having much success due to constant thread deletions.



I was also surprised (or even secretly amused) to see our sweet beloved Poolife [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A] using the F word against the mods, I believe on more than one occassion.



These are indications of the extent of stifling and oppression taking place in that place.



Currently the place apprears to have been taken over and run by unsociable egomaniacs:



For one, there's "X" who seems to be so high on himself that he often comes across as being rude - "I'm the piss King of this place, I can do what ever I want, threaten whomever I want..." type of attitude, coupled with his constant typing in ALL CAPITAL letters, isn't doing wonders for DV's image.



Then there is (or "are") lurker mod(s) who've never displayed the civility and courtesy to come out and introduce themselves.



All they do is to cower in silence, and abuse their "powers" by going on deletion rampages, with no explanations, rationale, rhyme or reason... [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A]    

Recently a number of regular users, and I suspect lots of others as well, found themselves unable to post on DV.



These were people who had not done anything wrong.



However in their zeal to curb various (mostly harmless) troll antics, DV admins appear to have been implementing wide range IP bans.



Shot gun approach, in other words. If one bored teen is acting out, then ban his whole IP range, and hope that he'll go away...



In reality he doesn't. He just switches his IP or proxy server, and continues what he's doing.



In the meantime, dozens of innocent people are banned from posting on DV, without a reason. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A]

"Ultimately I intend to bring this thread to the attention of DV CEO Mike."

[span style="font-weight: normal;"]well he won't be able to delete it here so maybe that's a good idea.[/span]


 

Eileen Dover wrote:

[SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]well he won't be able to delete it here so maybe that's a good idea.[/SPAN] [SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]I don't think Mike does any deleting himself, he may not even be looking at DV at all and be aware of what's going on.[/SPAN]

 [SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]I've only seen him showing up when things get really out of hand, ie. DV getting really bad press coverage, RCMP dropping in etc. but it's usually a half hearted attempt to get to the bottom of the issue and members end up having to type and retype what's already been said dozens of times, because all those testimonials get quickly deleted by mods in their attempt to cover up their tracks and all evidence of their ineptitude. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A][/SPAN]

 [SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"]Now by collecting all comments on a site outside the jurisdiction of DV mods, whatever is written stays here until Mike and everyone gets to read them... and anyone can respond and contribute to the thread without fearing that their efforts will be thwarted by trigger happy, powertripping mods. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_tongue.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_tongue.gif)[/A][/SPAN]

Almost none of what the people that operate DV are doing makes any sense to those of us who have created and moderated forums. If they wanted to fundamentally change how the forum worked, it would be easier to just shut it down, implement the new system, and let everyone know in advance that that was what was going on. These games (hours-long shut downs, random bannings and edits, etc.) indicate either that the DV folks have an enormous amount of time on their hands, or they have no clue what their doing.
 
 For me, the place just became more and more boring, as the random deletes by people with mod level access began to show, as someone else here already said, that the lunatics really are running the asylum. The intensity of language, even the ugliest kind, doesn't really bother me. On the other hand, absurd stupidity from incompetent administrators on any forum really does.
   

First of all I would like to thank the regulars and administrators of this forum for allowing some of their northern neighbours a place to come together and discuss a local problem.  It is much appreciated and though I am brand new here, the maturity I've seen so far will make this a regular stop for me.

  Back to the issue of the mods.

  When I was banned for posting giant pictures, I was posting them in threads that the moderators were allowing to remain when they should not have.  There is no reason to allow someone to troll starting a hate thread about Muslims, Hispanics, Chinese or ANYONE.  

  The woman hater posts that are so regular don't really fall under the same category and are much more innocuous.  There will always be whiners and they all seem to think they're the first to post why women in Vancouver suck.  

  But seriously, when someone is posting that another person, one whom they have never met, is a slut, or a lesbian... That SHOULD be deleted.  And if the same person is posting the same woman hater post (copied and pasted) it should be deleted.

  If someone is posting to troll for a racial argument, that SHOULD be deleted.

  If someone spams the board with links to something they're selling, DELETE IT.

  If there are photos of porn or gore, specifically human gore, DELETE!

  They were NOT deleting those, so I put huge photos in.  Hence my own banishment.  They actually took the time to go in and delete the photos I posted, but leave the hate threads.

  Something truly is seriously wrong with whomever they have chosen to moderate that board.  If they chose someone that was scrambling for the opportunity, that would be their FIRST mistake.  Their second is banning longtime posters who are some of the only ones that have added anything to intelligent threads.

  My five cents.

  Oh, and they need to define a set of Rules of Conduct.  Break the rules and you're gone.

  I have approached another Vancouver organization to set up forums.  I should know something soon.    

I've said it berfore and I'll say it again.  DV has become a complete joke and should be treated as such.  The owners don't care about it so they hire on anyone to mod it.  Just because you spend an enormous amount of time on a board, it does not make you MOD material.  The people moderating the board right now, whether new or not, have no idea how to mod properly and find it appropriate to delete at free will and justify nothing.  It's complete BS but nothing will be done about it.

 I'm not a person who usually swears and when I do, it is to express anger.  I was just so fu*cking pissed off yesterday at the mods who would just delete and delete posts.  Someone deleted my post when I innocently questioned why a thread had disappeared.  f*ck, was all I had to say.
 
I know that many innocent people got banned because of ip ranges and such.  The mods at Clubzones probably don't communicate anything to the current mods and in turn, frustration arises.  What a bunch of bull crap!  It has always been like this with the Admins and the mods. [/div]
[div]In the end, DV CAN GO f*ck ITSELF!  BLAH!
 

Here!  Here!

Chicklet wrote:
Here!  Here!
 .......

Anyone want to disagree?

LOL Gopher.  If I disagree, you're not going to bann me, are you?  ;)

Hmm.  I've always gotten along fine with Aboozer and academe.  I would be suprised and quite disappointed to find out either of them had power tripped and banned me.

  Very suprised.

purelife wrote:
 LOL Gopher.  If I disagree, you're not going to bann me, are you?  ;)[/DIV].......
 It depends on how well and wisely you play your cards (I've not forgotten about your pom-poms).

)(@#!*%&!)#% i just posted 1000 words, hit submit and it went to a white page with a wierd banner at the top. #!(*%&!()&*%#*)&([A href="mailto:!@%"]!@%[/A])&*(@!

Ok well posting seems to work again so I'm going to summarize my thoughts.  I'm not going to write another novel as that just wasted 25 minutes of my day when the submit failed :|

  Thanks for your feedback.  We're reviewing the rules with the mods.  Registration is coming soon.  We do care.

Threads should not be deleted just because they are questioning mods.

To draw attention to a thread please don't feeze up people's computers, just post a thread saying "delete this thread" with a link and reason.

  Cheers!
mike

  "Thanks for your feedback.  We're reviewing the rules with the mods."

Lol, yeah right. Suuuuuuuuuuuure you are. We believe ya. No, really, we do. Honest!


"Registration is coming soon.  We do care."

In other words, "we've lost control and have no idea what we're doing, so we're going to follow the lead of DS and (GASP!) make people register."

"We do care."

Lol, yes, it's way obvious how much you care. *cough*
 
 
"Threads should not be deleted just because they are questioning mods."

But we'll let them do it anyway, just for the hell of it. Ha ha!



"To draw attention to a thread please don't feeze up people's computers, just post a thread saying "delete this thread" with a link and reason."

In other words, "We can't prevent you from hosing the forum at will, so please don't hurt us!"

LOL at Mike's pathetic attempt to post at DS!  DS doesn't like to read 1000 word essays.  

Personally, I appreciate Mike's effort to go out of his own area to at least say something.

 dv'er wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]LOL at Mike's pathetic attempt to post at DS!  DS doesn't like to read 1000 word essays.[/div]
 He's more than welcome to post here. If it helps get this stuff straightened out, I'm all for it.

I am Jacks complete shock and awe.

Wow.  Who would have thought Mike would come out and spew to the masses?  I'm not too sure what all that meant for DV but hey, gotta give the guys some props for showing up.  I will say though, if I hear one more time that "registration is coming", I am going to vomit.  It will never happen.  I've been hearing that one for over a year.  God knows how long they've actually been promising it.

I guess I am glad that our words are actually being heard.  Too bad we had to yell to be noticed.

TehBorken wrote:
dv'er wrote:
 [DIV style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]LOL at Mike's pathetic attempt to post at DS!  DS doesn't like to read 1000 word essays.

 
He's more than welcome to post here. If it helps get this stuff straightened out, I'm all for it.



 

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 Hi Teh Borken.  That "dv'er" was me.  (but you probably knew that already, huh?)   I was just joking about that last sentence.  I guess that I have lost a lot of patience when it comes to this Mike guy and the admins.  I think that I have a bad attitude but, whatever.

 
 

 

And it is more of a "too bad" when two mods quit for Mike to finally listen and do something.

Mike wrote:
To draw attention to a thread please don't feeze up people's computers, just post a thread saying "delete this thread" with a link and reason.



Cheers!
mike[/DIV]
 I'd like to point out, Mike, that the threads I'm talking about had all the hate in the subject line.  It didn't take much thought on a Mod's part to figure out they were trolls.  Including those by stupidstar "academe is a slut".  You need us to actually flag those for your mods?

  C'mon.  They needed to be broken if they were still up.  The mod actually WENT IN to those threads, deleted my photos, and left the freakin' thread!!!

  Case in point.  My giant picture is gone, but the thread remains.

  [A href="http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=89213"]Explain this.[/A] And then tell me who should be banned.  I can't believe you kept that rabid f*cking chipmunk on crack and let intelligent people leave.

  Edit in:

  For the record, the photos I posted were just landmarks and scenic shots.  Nothing bad.          

funny thing to me is that some people actually think that Mike gives a rats ass about the complaints...

He took the time to post.

 He might not give the whole rat's ass, but he probably gives a left cheek.


 

True, he did take time to post.  But, he would only post when there is an attack on his baby DV.  And as usual, how ingenuine.  Yes, I'm being harsh but I'm fed up.

For beginners, I also appreciate the fact that Mike (if that's the real Mike?) read our comments and posted a brief response.



I wish I could've read the longer message though. (I'm surprised DS choke up on him. Last I checked Borken had increased the word limit to a fairly high number.)



Well Mike I hope you do take some of our comments into consideration and that they are helpful in your decision process regarding where you want to take DV in the near future.



Here's a brief summary of what I'd like to see on DV:



Currently one of the biggest problems I see in that place is ATTITUDE: Remind whomever is modding that place that their "Godlike" status can be taken away any minute and that they can be just like us mortals the next morning.



So they should drop the arrogance.



Also, as mentioned before I noticed many people are really resenting "lurker mod(s)"



If necessary, teach them some fk'ing courtesy: So they'll come out and introduce themselves like civilized human beings.



They should mention their regular usernames on DV.



Indiscriminate thread deletions (which is a form of powertripping) should stop immediately!



Mike, you've got to inject these dipshits some sense of ACCOUNTABILITY for their actions for f*ck's sakes!



Currently they're not accountable AT ALL. So they bully, threaten, do whatever the hell they want, because no one is watching over them.



One last point: Tell the admins to get rid of (or at least "lighten up") their ban list. It's not working. Because they've ended up banning a whole bunch of innocent people, so much so that today I saw a thread on DV where someone was complaining "Why isn't anyone posting here any more?"



Because of nickname bans and wide range IP bans, regular people can't post there any more.



So you're left with mostly techies or trolls, both of whom know how to use proxies and not many more folks, save a few noobs.



Is this what you want out of DV? [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A]

Excellent post Raging Poodle!  Agree with you 100%

   [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"]They should mention their regular usernames on DV.[/FONT]

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[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"]Indiscriminate thread deletions (which is a form of powertripping) should stop immediately! [/FONT]



[FONT size=5]YES! YES! AND YES![/FONT][/DIV]

The admin of DV is posting here?
 
 Seems that the Curse of Bebu came true after all. All hell has broken loose over there.
 
 
   

Some Chick wrote:

 [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"]There is no reason to allow someone to troll starting a hate thread about Muslims, Hispanics, Chinese or ANYONE.  [/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"] [/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"]<snip>
 [/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"] [/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"]But seriously, when someone is posting that another person, one whom they have never met, is a slut, or a lesbian... That SHOULD be deleted.  And if the same person is posting the same woman hater post (copied and pasted) it should be deleted.[/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"] [/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"]If someone is posting to troll for a racial argument, that SHOULD be deleted.[/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"] [/div] [div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"]If there are photos of porn or gore, specifically human gore, DELETE![/div]  
 Why? I'm not saying that I like those things, but how can you say that no one can ever post such things. It's not your forum. I'm not at all down with this "hate speech" stuff, where people are trying to muffle any opinions anywhere they find objectionable. Key word there is anywhere. If you don't want it in your home, good for you. But when it comes to what people create on their own time in their own space, you don't have the right to go into their space and tell them how to think or not think. One of the best reasons why is because it will not change the way they think. It will however, piss them off, and give them more reason to hate you and those others that they hate anyway. The best way to deal with unpleasant speech is with more speech, not less.
 
 Trying to remove hate, or other things you find unpleasant in the human condition from the internet is like trying to remove salt from the ocean. If you don't like what you see on an internet forum, then do what you have done: leave it. There are thousands out there to choose from. I just do not think you or I have the right to tell DV what they can and cannot have up on their forum. And except for those things which are in themselves criminal by their existence (child pornography, incitement to a specific criminal act -- e.g. "go to X place and burn it down"), I don't think the government should be in the thought police business either.
 
 [/div][div style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic;"]Oh, and they need to define a set of Rules of Conduct.  Break the rules and you're gone.
 
 That's what you say. But again, what right do you have to dictate the rules (such as they are) of their forum to them? Here on DS we have clear rules that we agree to when you register. Your comment is completely valid here. But where a forum does not have -- or obviously does not want to have -- a code of conduct, then again, your best choice and your only right is to vote with your feet. You have no right to impose your visions or views on anyone else at their forum (at least not more than anyone else who posts there), and they're not making you read their nonsense.
 
 
[span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0); font-style: italic;"]I have approached another Vancouver organization to set up forums.  I should know something soon.[/span]
 
 That is how to deal with it. Just be aware that DV risks getting hit by competition from the other side as well; that is, by a forum that registers users who agree that they are over 18 and are entering a free for all where anything goes, including the kind of ideas and words you find offensive. Let a hundred flowers bloom; some will be pretty and sweet, and some will be nasty old weeds.
 
 Sorry if this sounds harsh, but rather than complain about what you don't want to see, why not create something you do want to see instead. You know, light the candle instead of cursing the darkness?
     

   Someone PM'd me with this, apparently from a post on DV:

"[font style="font-style: italic;" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"]The DS administrator (TehBork) would have to delete that thread if DVMike or anyone involved with DV/CZ request him to especially if there's a court order involved per defamation or whatever ala our dear friend AF who bleated about such things per DV." [/font][font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"]

There's a lot of misunderstanding about this kind of thing, so let me clear it up.

Anyone can request I do something like remove a post, but that's about it. [/font][font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"] I can't be forced to remove posts that aren't intrinsically illegal (like child porn, inciting criminal acts, etc), regardless of what anyone claims.

Expressions of opinion ("President Bush is insane", "Web site X is Teh Lame") just don't count except in extremely specific circumstances. Defamation rarely applies to situations such as comments made on a message board; again, there have to be some [/font][font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"]extremely specific circumstances. [/font][font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"]

[/font][font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"]The truth is that the entire Canadian government can't force me to remove a post if I don't want to*. That's because Canadian laws don't apply to US citizens.  International law just doesn't work that way. If it did, countries that prohibit cars could sue you for having one.


[/font]
*[font size="1"]Unless they sent ninja assasins to take me out, of course.[/font]


 Edited for clarity (I hope). - tb  [font size="1"][/font]

TehBorken wrote:
Someone PM'd me with this, apparently from a post on DV:
[FONT size=2]
[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]"[/SPAN][/FONT][FONT style="FONT-STYLE: italic" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2]The DS administrator (TehBork) would have to delete that thread if DVMike or anyone involved with DV/CZ request him to especially if there's a court order involved per defamation or whatever ala our dear friend AF who bleated about such things per DV." [/FONT][FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2]
[/FONT]

 [FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2]^ That's "macademe logick". [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A] [/FONT]

 [FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2]I was going to bring it up with you, I'm glad you clarified. [/FONT]

Trollio wrote:
 
Why? I'm not saying that I like those things, but how can you say that no one can ever post such things. [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]It's not your forum.[/SPAN]

  [FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#00407f]I found the forum when I was looking for information on Vancouver, which is my city of residence.  If the administrators are going to use Vancouver's name to make money off of advertising, and "Discover" then I think it's incumbent upon them to represent it's residents responsibly and not just let the immature, the bored, the lonely and the mentally ill cavort at will.  I don't know if you've ever tried posting there, but things got so bad they now have warnings on the posts.[/FONT]

[FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#a94a76][/FONT]

 Trollio wrote:
"I just do not think you or I have the right to tell DV what they can and cannot have up on their forum. And except for those things which are [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]in themselves criminal by their existence[/SPAN] (child pornography, incitement to a specific criminal act -- e.g. "go to X place and burn it down"), "

   [FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#00407f]People were doing just that, and the posts remained.  I remember one man telling all other men to spit on women of their race that were dating caucasians.  Strangers.  Innocent women minding their own business walking down our streets.  He continued posting the same thread over and over whenever it sank to the bottom.[/FONT]

[FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#00407f][/FONT]

[FONT face="Arial Narrow"][FONT color=#00407f]THAT is in MY city, and I'll be damned if I'm going to sit back and know that's going on and just allow it to grow.
[/FONT][/FONT]

[DIV style="COLOR: rgb(128,0,0); FONT-STYLE: italic"] [FONT color=#000000]Trollio wrote:[/FONT]

[DIV style="COLOR: rgb(128,0,0); FONT-STYLE: italic"][FONT color=#000000]"Here on DS we have clear rules that we agree to when you register. Your comment is completely valid [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]here[/SPAN]. You have no right to impose your visions or views on anyone else at their forum (at least not more than anyone else who posts there), and they're not [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]making[/SPAN] you read their nonsense."[/FONT]

[FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#00407f]I've been around forums and the internet long enough to know that I can not "impose" anything on the anonymous admins running things.  I left that forum for a few months when it got really horrific and only returned when they cleaned up their act, but they've begun another downward spiral.[/FONT]

 [DIV style="COLOR: rgb(128,0,0); FONT-STYLE: italic"]



[SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(128,0,0); FONT-STYLE: italic"]I have approached another Vancouver organization to set up forums.  I should know something soon.[/SPAN]

[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]Trollio Wrote:[/SPAN]

[SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]"That[/SPAN] is how to deal with it."

  [FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#00407f]Of course it is.  It's just a pity that they haven't done what they've promised for a year.[/FONT][/DIV][FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#00407f][/FONT]
Trollio Wrote:

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but rather than complain about what you don't want to see, why not create something you do want to see instead. You know, light the candle instead of cursing the darkness?

  [FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#00407f]You already acknowledged that I have done just that, so ....[/FONT]
     
 

 Some Chick wrote:
[em][font color="#00407f" face="Arial Narrow"]I remember one man telling all other men to spit on women of their race that were dating caucasians.  Strangers.  Innocent women minding their own business walking down our streets.  He continued posting the same thread over and over whenever it sank to the bottom.

[/font][/em]I'll be the first one to say that's disgusting and repulsive, but it is free speech. Whoever made those comments is an ass, but he has the right to be an ass. And we have the right to reply in overwhelming numbers telling him that he's a sick piece of crap.

As soon as you start censoring speech that isn't blatantly illegal you have to moderate it all, and then spend the rest of your life making endless judgement calls about what's "okay" and what's not. I don't know about you, but I don't relish the idea of spending my days that way.

Would those kinds of comments be deleted here? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. For me it's more a matter of whether or not the comments are disrupting the forum in a way that prevents people from using it.

 

TehBorken !!!!  (Long time no see.)    [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a025.gif" border=0]

  Well put !

Some Chick wrote:  [em][font color="#00407f" face="Arial Narrow"]
 I found the forum when I was looking for information on Vancouver, which is my city of residence.  If the administrators are going to use Vancouver's name to make money off of advertising, and "Discover" then I think it's incumbent upon them to represent it's residents responsibly and not just let the immature, the bored, the lonely and the mentally ill cavort at will.  I don't know if you've ever tried posting there, but things got so bad they now have warnings on the posts.[/font][/em]  If you were talking about a site that was created or sponsored by the government, I have no argument with you whatsoever. But consider the wisdom of Bebu, expressed on DV:
 [/p] [font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"][font style="font-family: times new roman; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);" size="2"] The people who run this place also run Vancouver's meat markets; their objective is to ramp you up with shocking crap and keep this place hopping. That's why you watch what happens here like a crack addict. If you don't make the dope yourselves, they have to. Think about that.[/font]
 [/font][/p] [font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"][font style="font-family: tahoma;" size="2"]You also said:[/font] [/font]
[span style="color: rgb(0, 64, 127);"]  [/span][span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 64, 127);"]I have approached another Vancouver organization to set up forums.[/span][font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"][span style="color: rgb(0, 64, 127);"] [/span]
 [/font][/p] [p style="font-family: tahoma;"]That might be where the crux of the matter lies. "Organization" implies responsibility, and I'm not sure that a string of nightclubs qualifies as a Vancouver organization. I think you may have been duped into thinking that a private forum on a private website somehow represents more than it does because of what it calls itself. Anyone can use the name Vancouver, whether they're selling tourist excursions, hot dogs, tyres, or strippers. [/p]  

Boy.... reading all these posts... I am so so so so so glad (to inifinity) that I am no longer part of the DV admin crap ring.(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/8.gif)  

It's seems to me to be such a fine line between a persons morals and everyones rights as human beings whether you are from the states or Canada.  I know some of the stuff on DV bothers me, but once I see it in a thread, I don't go back in.  There isn't much 'illegal' activity going on there just a bunch of ignorant children playing what they think of as 'cool'.  Trollio is right.  If you don't like it then don't participate.  I also agree with Some Chick that the owners of DV aren't helping to represent us Vancouverites  in the best light and perhaps they need to rename the forum so others looking for actual info on this beautiful city can find what they are looking for.  But I'm a realist and I know that that will never happen.

The honest truth is the owners of DV couldn't care less what happens to DV unless the forum is hacked or attacked blantantly. According to Mike, DV is the least of their concern as they're focusing on other projects. So you can see how much he cares about DV and the opinions of ppl.

I would like to put forth an idea.

We can go around and around about the pitfalls of DV and nothing may ever come of it.  I suggest that we go back to talking about lunch, weekend plans and discussing the various topics TehBorken and SD bring to us each day.  The subject of DV seems to get everyone rilled up and I hate to see anyone unhappy.  We have a nice little world here so let's not spoil it.  I know that I don't want to talk about this anymore, it just makes me mad and sad.

Anyone with me?

Chicklet wrote:
I would like to put forth an idea.

We can go around and around about the pitfalls of DV and nothing may ever come of it.  I suggest that we go back to talking about lunch, weekend plans and discussing the various topics TehBorken and SD bring to us each day.  The subject of DV seems to get everyone rilled up and I hate to see anyone unhappy.  We have a nice little world here so let's not spoil it.  I know that I don't want to talk about this anymore, it just makes me mad and sad.

Anyone with me?

 

 Well.... sometimes it's nice to vent.......................................................


 

I remember when Mike was on BCCTV explaining the DV controversy about the olympic logo.  Ever since then DV has been a troll fest.

I completely agree Lise,but we have been going around and around with this for quite a few days.

You know what?  It was wrong of me to ask that everyone move on.  If someone still wants to discuss then they should have ervy right. Sorry.  Geez, you would think that I was a MOD or something.


*I will delete this thread if anyone else posts to it*

Ooh La La!

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a363/liseliselise/blood.jpg)

 

Chicklet wrote:
I completely agree Lise,but we have been going around and around with this for quite a few days.

You know what?  It was wrong of me to ask that everyone move on.  If someone still wants to discuss then they should have ervy right. Sorry.  Geez, you would think that I was a MOD or something.


*I will delete this thread if anyone else posts to it*

 

 I know but I'm ashame to say that I'm addicted to the drama.

 
Wanna be a mod on DV? *hehe* I can pull some strings....................(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/9.gif)


   

That's hawt Lise!  Where is it from?

Bite your tongue lady.  >:(

 P.C. wrote:
TehBorken !!!!  (Long time no see.)    [img style="cursor: pointer;" onclick="url(this.src);" src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a025.gif[/img]
 
Hi P.C. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Love/1.gif)  What's new with you?
 

Blood Rayne. Half vampire, half human. I just watched the movie. Sucks but Kristen Loken (you may remember her from Terminator 3) looked good.

  Rayne's from a game. Some good start to the game but the camera work left me dizzy.

  [A href="http://www.bloodrayne-themovie.com/"]http://www.bloodrayne-themovie.com/[/A]    

Did you know Terminator 3 was the first R movie I saw by myself. Saw it on my birthday. Almost walked out of the theatre because a Gigli trailer was shown before the movie.

T3 was rated R? No way. That's so tame. Watch Blood Rayne for blood, gore and sex. (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/6.gif)

Welcome to America Lise. Mean Girls was orginally rated R for strong sexual themes. America run by a bunch of Puritans.

TehBorken wrote

Hi P.C. (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Love/1.gif)  What's new with you?



Not so much Teh....work is taking over, and I'm not so happy about that.  I remember the very words I used to say to hubby when he came home cranky and tired from working himself silly....now I'M doing it.  LIFE'S TOO SHORT !!!!!!

Sportsdude wrote:
 I remember when Mike was on BCCTV explaining the DV controversy about the olympic logo.  Ever since then DV has been a troll fest.[/DIV]
 

---

I saw that as well for a brief moment.  DV changed, imo, when we had a large topic about RAV Line from all the TV publicity.  That was truly an interesting day besides the hijacker deleting pages and pages of threads and the Admins actually think, to this day, that it was a crazy, f*cked up mod.  Bleh!

[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff40"]LO BEHOLD THE PRESENCE OF THE GODDESS THAT IS PURELIFE![/FONT]

Wow I'm suprised no one has brought up the fact that I saw it on BCCTV since I live in Missouri....

  Yes I am a loser nerd. I watch BCCTV on the net sometimes at 8ct. Probly isn't good for me because it makes me sad and empty.

Great god can I never escape Vancouver! (Found a picture of False Creek in my science book in the chapter of Urbanization and Sustianable Cities)

*Looks around furtively and drops a photo on the floor in front of Sportsdude.*

  [img height=216 alt="Vancouver Skyline" src="http://www.canada.worldweb.com/PhotoImages/Articles/Canada/vancouverskyline.jpg" width=327 border=0]

i just said this the other day.

view is everything.
 

This is my background right now:

[A href="http://static.flickr.com/18/23689036_52fcc81ce2_o.jpg"]http://static.flickr.com/18/23689036_52fcc81ce2_o.jpg[/A]

That photo is the exact view from the balcony of a guy I was dating a few months ago.  I work a block from Wall Center, the tall glass building in the center.

  Nice shot.  The night view is wicked.

I think its the archetictual design of the buildings that gets me.  I've always been a fan of super modern and glass structures.

  [A href="http://tron.lir.dk/photobot/gallery2/d/219-2/40_False_Creek.jpg"]http://tron.lir.dk/photobot/gallery2/d/219-2/40_False_Creek.jpg[/A]  

I love looking at architecture, however I do find that what is going on currently leaves a lot to be desired, especially in Yaletown.  Most of the buildings are getting pretty boring and it's beginning to have a rather homogenized look with little personality.  Pale blue/aqua steel and glass..  I like to wander around in the West End since there is still a great variety of building styles and ages.  [FONT color=#0080ff][A href="http://www.lm-horizons.com/vancouver%20library.jpg"]This [/A][/FONT]is one of my favorite buildings in Vancouver though, by far.

I agree with you about that building.  I thought it was a very clever idea for a library.

Curses, you're right.
And sometimes it's hard to see something from the inside.
Is that why you like being an outsider?    ;)
 

[span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"] Sportsdude wrote:[/span][br style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"][div style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 127);"]Wow I'm suprised no one has brought up the fact that I saw it on BCCTV since I live in Missouri....[/div]   It had occurred to me, but then I just figured that that was how you did it. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)
 
 My questions are:
 
 Why Canada?
 Why not Australia or Britain, like most Americans?
 
 Why Vancouver?
 Why not Toronto, Ottawa, Québec...?
 
 If you're going to pick a place you've never been, Vancouver is a pretty interesting choice. And you seem so committed to it as well.
 
 Just curious.
 

It may be that Sportsdude is wise enough to know that Canada is the promised land.

Yeah, but what if somebody promised you Surrey?  

With a fringe on top?

Would that be considered fringe benefits?

 I'm not sure the fringe would make much of a difference. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/13.gif) (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/12.gif) (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/27.gif)    

You're right. Canada doesn't have a fringe and it's still the promised land.

Has Harper promised it to the U.S.?

More than likely. However, they'll have to fight off Sportsdude who has promised it to himself.  

[img style="width: 226px; height: 348px;" src="http://www.brandonu.ca/news/images/TommyDouglas.jpg"]  

 [P align=left][FONT color=#000000][img height=233 alt="65739_19.jpg (59547 bytes)" src="http://www.firstshotphoto.com/images/Fringe%20Top%20Surrey.jpg" width=345 align=right]Surrey with Fringe Benefits[/FONT]

That's right!  I had forgotten there was another strong contender.    

Kitten, come ride with me!

Gladly, but where's the gear shift on that thing?

Fringes with Surrey benefits
 
 (http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/2a/11/pr-Outdoor_Apparel-Leather_Gallery_Fringe_And_Concho_Leather_Jacket-Mens-resized200.gif)
   

kitten wrote:
 Gladly, but where's the gear shift on that thing?

...

It's called a horse, and all you have to do is shout "Whoa" to it now and then.
 

If you don't shout "Whoa" is it an example of perpetual motion?

Trollio made me make a laugh noise.

 The course of this thread makes me wonder what would have happened if I'd said Whalley instead of Surrey.  

Just be thankful for your unanticipated inspiration of genius.

[span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"]Whaley?[/span]
 
 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Daldianus/animals/beluga.jpg)
   

Then there's also Welly (as Napolean pondered to himself).  

 Oh, by the way, I want the...  

Yes, what?.........

...TOP! (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/3.gif)
 
 Damn it, you pesky gopher you. (//forums/richedit/smileys/1.gif)    

Oh I see, you were alluding to willy, as in the ill will mentioned at the heading of this thread.  

Sorry Trollio, but this might be top.  

Oh dear, born to be wrong!  I se that Gopher holds that exalted position.

 Hmmm..... willy.... willies.... discussion of willies.... DV....
 
 OK, that fits. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/6.gif)    

Whalley is pronounced Wally, so uh... yeah...

  [img height=422 src="http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/cartoon/images/Lantz/plaque-wally.JPG" width=274]  

kitten wrote:
Oh dear, born to be wrong!  I se that Gopher holds that exalted position.
 
 We can only be as quick as the server will let us.
 
 

There's that word again!

  Some Chick wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]Whalley is pronounced Wally, so uh... yeah...[/div]  
Perfect, although the bow tie may be a bit too upmarket. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Other/25.gif)
 

 

I've certainly never worn one.

When DS is getting more posts than DV there is something not right with the universe.
G'day, mates.
 

G'day to you too.

Trollio wrote:
[SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,127); FONT-STYLE: italic"]Sportsdude wrote:[/SPAN][BR style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,127); FONT-STYLE: italic"] [DIV style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,127); FONT-STYLE: italic"]Wow I'm suprised no one has brought up the fact that I saw it on BCCTV since I live in Missouri....

 It had occurred to me, but then I just figured that that was how you did it. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)

My questions are:

Why Canada?
Why not Australia or Britain, like most Americans?

Why Vancouver?
Why not Toronto, Ottawa, Québec...?

If you're going to pick a place you've never been, Vancouver is a pretty interesting choice. And you seem so committed to it as well.

Just curious.
 
 Why Canada? Uh its colder? Thats right I said COLDER! hehe.

Ah I just like how americans (around here) put the place down. Any place that rednecks put down I want to go to.

I was wooed by Smallville, taken in by Pierre and fell in love with its ideas and culture.  There's this one phrase on the Pierre Trudeau wikipedia file that somes up why I like Canada:

"Trudeau is seen by many as embodying the spirit of his age: youth, ambition, and rebellion against conformity."

Replace Trudeau with Canada and you see my point.

Its too hot in Austrialia and Britian looks cool but the women are ugly but I do like the fact that they drive small cars. Not a soccer fan. But I do like trains and mass transit everywhere, something Europe in general is good at.

  Why Vancouver?

Well I also looked into Montreal and Ottawa. Ottawa looked cool but I've heard its not a singles place.  Montreal looks really good but I'm coming from a place where I've been singled out due to my views and its my natural tendencey to challenge authority but I've already fought that fight and I came out bloodied and bruised in Missouri so I don't want to fight over politics in general because the language issue in Quebec is exactly like the social issues here. They are wedges to wedge people apart from another.

I don't like Toronto. Don't know why, maybe its because I'm a habs fan.  Would be a Canucks fan but I don't live on the west coast.      

Now I will...  

GET IT.  

I work exclusively with Americans every day and when they hear I'm from Vancouver (yes I do get busted by my accent even though I've Americanized it considerably) many of them tell me they've been here and how much they love it.

  It is a beautiful city with lots to do if you're into sports.  

Trollio wrote:
GET IT.  
 Willy-nilly?

[span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"] Sportsdude wrote:[/span][br style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"][br style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"] [div style="font-style: italic;"][span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"]... Britian looks cool but the women are ugly...[/span]
 
 
 My dear boy... this is ugly?
 
 (http://www.24horaslibre.com/data/notipix/liz-hurley.jpg)
 [/div]

 

Or maybe you meant this...
 
 (http://members.shaw.ca/lolaland/hildao.jpg)
   

No. But when I think of British chicks I think of Footballers Wives.

  (http://www.asiansinmedia.org/pictures/tv/footballers_wives.jpg)  

I don't mind the one on the right. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/21.gif)
 
 We had better stop before the lovely Miss Aishwarya Rai pops up, and then this really will be too much like DV.
   

 Indian Girls are HAWT!

(http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif)
(http://www.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/10889-aishwarya-rai-AP.jpg)

(http://www.videomax.ro/Images/actors/1508_a_normal.jpg)

  How her career never really took off like Kiera's did after Bend it like Beckham is beyond me.

The ladies here will likely not be pleased with this display, but yes, Aishwarya Rai is very beautiful. There was a graphic over on DV pertaining to this, a chart, if you will, that I found hilarious, but I would not post it here. Especially after the discussion that kicked off this thread.  

Oh, I think you might be surprised about what some of the ladies here appreciate     (//forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif)
But yeah, this is just about the best example of a thread hijacking I've come across.
Not that I'm complaining, I think that ****** Mike got the point in the first page.

 

  ^^^^  
 because,  visible ethnic minorities are quite hard to cast in movie projects especially in Hollywood.   Unless it is a movie project that  obviously needs ethnic minority  actors like  the Geisha movies.
 
 Most are relegated to either being the villain (like the Yakuza)  or stereotypes like 7/11 convenience store clerks
     

The ladies here will likely not be pleased with this display, but yes, Aishwarya Rai is very beautiful.

 

---

She's ccccuuuuutttteee!  

Trollio wrote:
The ladies here will likely not be pleased with this display, but yes, Aishwarya Rai is very beautiful.     I'm sure the ladies here will agree that she is very beautiful. Trollio.  Don't underestimate our appreciation for true beauty.  

Darn right. We can appreciate real beauties. I put my vote in to see what himitsu and yuki look like together.

I have to say that kitten is beautiful.  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif)  

  Yeah, we know what beauty is and will look.  Angelina is goddess in my books.  

If this is true how do you explain her:

   (http://web.telia.com/~u87727183/kristin_kreuk.jpg)

  See got casted into a white role "lana lang"

Did Snow White on ABC

Played a dirty girl friend in an all white cast on Eurotrip

Turned down agent 99 in Get Smart (supposedly) with Steve Carrol

And played a muslim indian in the upcoming film Partition.

  She seems to break all the racial taboos.

 

What sort of pose would you suggest for them, Lise?  

I vote yes as well.
So it's unanimous!!!!!    
Motion carried!!!!
 (//forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/1.gif)  

kitten wrote:
What sort of pose would you suggest for them, Lise?

  Anything. So long as they pose. And I'll throw in the handcuffs at no extra charge.  
   

That gal is stunningly beautiful.

  I often wonder if men recognize good looks in other men, the way women do in other women.  Because it would be almost impossible for them to admit it, I guess we may never know.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c025.gif" border=0]          

Oh, what a nice thing to say, purelife!  I have seen you as a tall goddess since I first met you on DV a couple of years ago.  You, Lise and Orca were the stars that shone down on the rest of us.  

P.C. wrote:
That gal is stunningly beautiful.



[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"]I often wonder if men recognize good looks in other men[/FONT], the way women do in other women.  Because it would be almost impossible for them to admit it, I guess we may never know.  [img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c025.gif" border=0]

    Oh yes, some men do... at least the ones who admit would be my husband. He thought Freddy Prince Jr.'s eyebrows were to die for.          
 

kitten wrote:
Oh, what a nice thing to say, purelife!  I have seen you as a tall goddess since I first met you on DV a couple of years ago.  You, Lise and Orca were the stars that shone down on the rest of us.

  Just for that, I'm going to give you a nice long massage on the back. Now arch!!  
 

Sounds too good to be true, Lise, but it's hard to arch when I ache.

Lise wrote:



Oh yes, some men do... at least the ones who admit would be my husband. He thought Freddy Prince Jr.'s eyebrows were to die for.

  LOL Lise.....I've never given a great deal of thought to eyebrows.    

*magically rubs all of kitten's aches away*

  I'm just glad he noticed the eyebrows only.... had it been some other male parts, I'd be truly worried.

I've read all this!



I can't believe where you yappy people have taken this thread to.  [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A]



Good thing everything that needed to be said to Mike, was said in the first 2 pages.  

Lise wrote:
 *magically rubs all of kitten's aches away*

  Thank you very much.  I needed that!!!

Raging Poodle! wrote:
I've read all this!



I can't believe where you yappy people have taken this thread to.  [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A]



Good thing everything that needed to be said to Mike, was said in the first 2 pages.

 
   [FONT size=6]IT'S CALLED EVOLUTION. Join the mutant cause.[/FONT]

If Mike isn't bothering to check on DV, why do you think he would read all this?

Lise wrote:
   [FONT size=6]IT'S CALLED EVOLUTION. Join the mutant cause.[/FONT]

  DS as a mutant form of DV... [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_cool.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_cool.gif)[/A] Interesting concept.



And speaking of mutants, how tall is poolife?  [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shock.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shock.gif)[/A]  

 Lise I could use a massage as well, as I'm getting stiff and kinked up as we speak.  

[FONT size=6][/FONT]

[FONT size=6][/FONT]

DS as a mutant form of DV... [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_cool.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_cool.gif)[/A] Interesting concept.



And speaking of mutants, how tall is poolife?  [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shock.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shock.gif)[/A]

 
 Tall and sexy. I kid you not.  

tenkani wrote:
Lise I could use a massage as well, as I'm getting stiff and kinked up as we speak.  
     Alas. I can't help you in that department. My fingers aren't greasy enough.

Kristen Kreuk doesn't appeal to me, for some odd reason, if that is KK, Sportsdude.      

(http://www.derok.net/derok/images/entertainment/rachel%20mcadams%20red%20eye.JPG)

(http://www.celebopedia.com/kreuk/images/kristin_kreuk.jpg)

(http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.washblade.com/2004/1-16/arts/music/MusicCol.jpg)

(//%5Bimg%5Dhttp://www.beautiesofcanada.com/2006/images/contestants/Alice_low.jpg)

  Just random actresses and models to show Canada's diversity.  

Lise wrote:
[FONT size=6][/FONT]

[FONT size=6][/FONT]

Tall and sexy. I kid you not.

  7'2"?  [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A]



On a slightly different topic, I found that "I need a backrub" doesn't work with women... They do a lousy job of it even if you've given them the best massage ever. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_tongue.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_tongue.gif)[/A]  

And someone here already doesn't like me... (has Mike registered just so he could smite me?) as I've already received my first bad karma, and I haven't even had a disagreement with anyone yet. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_approve.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_approve.gif)[/A]

Kristen Kreuk is................normal. As purelife pointed out, Angelina is too much of a hottie.

  You'll have to ask purelife how tall she is. (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/19.gif)

  Raging Poodle, you haven't felt my massage just yet. They not only involve hands but bites.  

OK. One Bless Point for you. Now kissy kiss my feet.

 Don't take it hard Raging Poodle.
Last I heard that bootlicker Academe had an account here so I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the neg karma came from.
   

Here's another bless to counter the bad karma.  

Yeah that was KK, purelife. I think people's attraction to her are her eyes.

  Anyway since we are now talking about dudes. Well I'm not going to post a pic of me but I look exactly like a carbon copy of Joshua Jackson, the guy in the mighty ducks movies and dawson's creek.

  (http://www.hollywoodthing.com/actors/joshuajackson/7.jpg)

  We are so a like its scary (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/5.gif) .

  Then on the other hand my sis looks exactly like girl of harry potter.

(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7294/emma44984rt.jpg)

 So I guess looking like famous people runs in the family. Dad looks like the president of Iran.

(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00196/Ahmadinejad2-stort-_196777c.jpg)

Except a little whiter.

  They said mom looked like one of the Carpenters.

(http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B0001AP0OU.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)  

(http://www.hollywoodthing.com/actors/joshuajackson/7.jpg)

    NOT SEXY.

  (http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/tenkani_Face.jpg)

  So hot you can't even post his real picture here.

oh geez thanks lise cuz I really do look exactly like him. Its creepy.

Sportsdude wrote:
oh geez thanks lise cuz I really do look exactly like him. Its creepy.

    OH CRAP. Sorry........ *whacking my head on the laptop*

  You're still cute in my books no matter what, my dear boy. Gotta run. My CEO is callin'.
 

Wow, they're doing some cool stuff with plastic these days, aren't they?  
(http://www.asiansinmedia.org/pictures/tv/footballers_wives.jpg)
 

Wait, THOSE ARE [span style="text-decoration: underline;"]PEOPLE[/span]?????     (http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/icon_smile_shock.gif)  

Looks more like something you'd see in a wax museum.

Oh Gawd the tv show is even worse. They've got on 50 pounds of make up and they do these really close in shots and eck.

 On a slightly different topic, I found that "I need a backrub" doesn't work with women... [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"]They do a lousy job[/FONT] of it even if you've given them the best massage ever. [A href="jva:void(0)" ="addImg('icon/icon_smile_tongue.gif')"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_tongue.gif)[/A]

 

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Not me.  I give excellent back massages.  I'm pretty strong, you know.  ;)

 

 Ahhh...now I know why Raging Poodle PM'ed me wanting to know my height.  Geesh, I need to get caught up.

 

how tall are you purelife?

Does it really matter how tall I am?  It doesn't mean anything.

  I always get the...you're so tall for an asian girl..blah blah blah...and in turn, I feel like saying, well, aren't you so short.  It's  gettting annoying.

Sorry for venting.  I don't mean to take it out on you.

you're asian? I didn't know that. Oh don't worry about being too tall. Heck I've been known to scare people with my height.  People have dropped books, food and drinks.  First thing that happens when I talk to a girl I get the "damn your tall response".

I don't worry about it but sometimes, some girls feel very jeolous.  I can just sense it when they say that to me.  (from some girls, not all).  I have a good ability to sense people out.  A gift, perhaps.  And with guys, I'm damn intimidating to many.  I'm at 5'11" so when I wear a one inch heel, I'm over-whelming to many.  I've never been popular with guys.  They just don't feel comfortable around me.  Ah well.  That's life.

How tall are you?  7 feet?  

Yeah you're fine for me I'm between 6'6 and 6'8 flat footed.

Well, I know that you are a beautiful woman PL.  5'11 or 4'8 you are a strong and amazing lady.

Sportsdude - I'm fine for you, eh?  Does that mean there's a chance?  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/4.gif)

Chicklet - Thanks young lady.  

  I'm used to this now.  Before, ie. a few years ago, I wasn't.

Yeah, you probly are. Problem is I'm a generation younger, oh well.  But I've got the same problem. All the girls I've ever known are in the mid 5 foot range.  Grew up with a girl from my church who was from india they listed her as 4'11 but I swear she was nowhere near that.  Being a foot taller or in her case 2ft taller kinda sucks.

purelife wrote:
I'm used to this now.  Before, ie. a few years ago, I wasn't.

It's called growing up and getting more comfortable in your own skin.  It'll happen to you too SD, I promise.

SD, how old do you think I am?  Geesh, you're not that much younger than me.  ;)  

Chicklet with words of wisdom.  Totally agree. :)

Yeah that's true.  When I played football or basketball people expected me to naturally do things that tall people in that sport were able to do i.e. (dunking).  But the problem was that I wasn't naturally tall. Going into my freshman year of high school I was 5'9 and then going into my sophmore year I was 6'4, then next year 6'6 and so on.  I went from this skinny little kid to this giant monster.  Took a toll on my body thou anytime you grow a foot in 4 years and gain 80 pounds something is going to happen.  

late 20's, early 30's like everyone else here, pl.

That's interesting SD.  I'm sorry to hear that.  You'll meet that special girl one day.  I'm sure.

  You know, the funny thing I get asked is "how did you get so tall?"  Was it eating a lot of meat?  Playing sports?  LOL.  I just laugh.

I'm 26 turning 27 in the summer.

Sorry Raging Poodle.  We have hijacked your thread to talk about what is more interesting.  tee hee....  

well I'm 7 years younger then you. I'll be turning 20 in july.

  They always said I'd be tall but only like 6'4. And they said I would be lanky but they must have been drunk when they thought of that.  Never could cut it as a soccer player. Plus having no cartilidge in your knees don't help either.    

I hope that in the end, you're happy with who you are and your height, SD.  You sound like a very intelligent and a mature guy for your age.  These are good qualities that a girl looks for, well, for me at least.  

  What sports do you play now?  I'm planning to do the grouse grind soon with co-workers.  Shall be fun.  I absolutely enjoy b-ball, v-ball and baseball but haven't played for years.  

  Cool, your b-day is coming up soon!  :)

 purelife wrote:
I'm 26 turning 27 in the summer.
Goddamn, now I really feel ancient. I have shirts older than that. (//forums/richedit/smileys/Sad/11.gif)  (sigh)

Ugh. I get that "you sound intellegent for your age" all the time. I could always get along better with older people but kids my age are just plain dumb and not on the same hemisphere.


What sports do I play:

Use to play baseball, football, basketball, golf and tennis in high school

Grouse Grind looks fun.

Been rowing for almost a year although I haven't been able to go rowing for about 3 months due to an injury which I'm getting looked at tomorrow.

Oh and I love to bike and ski.  

Ugh. I get that "you sound intellegent for your age" all the time. I could always get along better with older people but kids my age are just plain dumb and not on the same hemisphere.

 

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Sorry.  I know how you feel.

Its okay.

Birds of a feather flock together as they say.

 TB, it's Ok luckily I like older guys.
Want me to call you daddy??
[font size="1"]Meet?  [/font]  ;)
   

LOL at tenkani!  Older guys are sexay!    

Good thing I left for lunch, 4 more pages to read... [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A]

 And I see poolife has already figured out the reason for my message. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_cool.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_cool.gif)[/A]

 So at 5'11" - despite being somewhat shorter, I bet I can still lift you. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A]

 Sportsdude wrote:


 late 20's, early 30's like everyone else here, pl. So you think.  [A onclick="addImg('icon/509.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/509.gif)[/A]

 > Raging Poodle, you haven't felt my massage just yet. They not only involve hands but bites.

 [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shock.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shock.gif)[/A]h my stars...   [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_wink.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_wink.gif)[/A]

[span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 127, 64);"]EDIT: threat removed, for your pleasure. [/span][span style="color: rgb(0, 127, 64);"]  [/span] (http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/bunchies_clear1.gif)
 
 Please don't call her poolife, my friend.  

Bite me, tough fellow. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A]    

I'm only tough on the Net    :(
Still...  *bite*
There, now please don't call my friend names.
She is funny, smart and full of fire.
Plus I hear she has nice stems.
 

While you're biting, can you rub my back also? [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_tongue.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_tongue.gif)[/A]

you guys are the most whiny beeyaches in the history of beeyaches.

  Boohoo my precious thesis and dissertation quality posts are being deleted

  boohoo the mods are on a power trip

  Boohoo DV isn't a magical free speech faerie land where we can all sit on fluffy white clouds admiring the rainbows.

  Boo f*cking hoo

  I'd hate to see you little twerps in real life...in fact, I doubt you guys could survive in real life. Better go get your mommy and have her call Mike's parents to complain.

  Grow the f*ck up please.      

and Swot4, STFU  

Gunta, register so you can give everyone bad karma. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A]  

Gunta wrote:
 and Swot4, STFU

 
 Only on DV can you say STFU on its own. On DS you have to say STFU please. [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_big.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_big.gif)[/A]

 W00h00!!!
What's up Gunta???

You're welcome to your opinion bro, and it doesn't bother me, mostly because I know Mike would never make you a mod    ;)

But just for the record, none of my threads were ever deleted. I was mostly "whining" about other people's shit getting whacked, if that makes any difference to you.
   

What is up with the Karma thing...How does it work? Do I get bonus points if I kill Shiva or Ganesh?

 lol, big bad gunta is afraid to register because his karma would drop through the floor.

poor widdle gunta couldn't take such a blow to his big manly ego, lolololol!

gunta = chickenshit loser boi


 

W00h00!!!
What's up Gunta???

You're welcome to your opinion bro, and it doesn't bother me, mostly because I know Mike would never make you a mod    ;)

But just for the record, none of my threads were ever deleted. I was mostly "whining" about other people's shit getting whacked, if that makes any difference to you.
 

  It wasn't directed at you. The second post was. I know you don't whine. You have more class then that. And maybe one day I will be an admin, and then I will shut you the f*ck up myself.

  hahahahahahahahaha

  STFU...

  Please.  

Yes Anti-Gunta. I am concerned that my Karma will drop. My life is as lame as yours...that's right...sure.        

 If you manage to kill Shiva I'll give you 50 karma myself.
It's a level boss with a special attack too terrible to name.
Hint: think "shocker".
   

I am more worried about it's melee attack. The Hottest Karl.

See now, if you were registered I would have given you some good karma for that last post.
You're missing out, bro     ;)
 

How does the Karma work.    

Maybe if the admin was to pay me to stick around. Gunta ain't free. The shit I add to the search engine responses is worth paper.

 The admin here's pretty cool so it's worth asking about    (//forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/12.gif)

Karma...Ok a well-kept secret about karma is that...it does absolutely nothing.
If you're registered, other registered users can either bless or curse you and everyone can see it. So if you're a cock holster, after a while you'll have like 1 bless point and 500 curse points and everyone will know you suck ass.

In truth, there is functionality built into this software that makes use of karma ratings, but as of yet the admin (blessed be his name) hasn't seen the need to implement it (cause things are pretty quiet around here most days).
   

Sounds cheesy. If they had that at DV I'd be at -596495454984849 because even though I'd get a lot of props...I have a few handle houdini's that love to troll me and they would curse me constantly. Then when the mod activates the mutagenetic virus in my mitochondria, I will die a zombie like death.

  I can see the same thing happening here.

There isn't enough trafic here to keep me entertained either. Apperantly.

 Well, you can only bless or curse someone once an hour, so that keeps someone from cheesing you out too hardcore, unless they're really patient   ;)

Anyway, karma is the smallest benefit from registering.

The best benefit is...PRIVATE MESSAGING.

How do you like them apples?
   

   Gunta wrote:
Maybe if the admin was to pay me to stick around.

Unfortunately my Troll Bribery Fund is all tapped out. How about if I assassinate a few famous people of your choosing instead? Make a list and I'll see what I can do.


The shit I add to the search engine responses is worth paper.

Hmmm, I have all the shit I really need right now (I waited for a sale and bought it in bulk).

 

I will run the shit.  

  Gunta wrote: The shit I add to the search engine responses is worth paper.

yeah- toilet paper.


[font style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0); background-color: rgb(17, 17, 17);" size="7"]HAHAHAAHAH!!!!!![/font]
 

How do you like them apples?



Well, I should diversify. With people like Sandy and Academe participating in DV, I am sure I am going to lose mucho denero if i don't invest in some US companies.  

yeah- toilet paper.



Gold plated 3 ply biotch.

where's that conformation number.

 People are afraid of trolls here.
I can't blame them, their worst fear is that DS becomes like DV.
But I really don't think they have to worry.
IMO we could use a little...flava.
   

[P align=left]TehBorken wrote:


 [DIV align=left]How about if I assassinate a few famous people of your choosing instead? Make a list and I'll see what I can do.

[DIV align=left]

[DIV align=left]And for those who demand proof and references... here is:

[DIV align=left]

[DIV align=left]BEFORE Bork

[DIV align=left](//%5B/b%5D%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5Dand%20here%20is,%20AFTER%20Bork%20%5B/b%5D%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5Bimg%20height=100%20alt=%22%22%20src=%22http://www.debka.org/photos/s_2609.jpg%22%20width=100%20align=right%20border=0%5D%5B/b%5D%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5D%5B/b%5D%20%5BDIV%20align=left%5D%5Bb%5DAny%20questions?%20%20%5B/b%5D%5BA%20onclick=%22addImg('icon/borgsmile.gif')%22%20href=%22jvascript:void(0)%22%5D%5Bb%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttp://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon/borgsmile.gif)[/A]

 

purelife wrote:
 LOL at tenkani!  Older guys are sexay!    [FONT color=#00407f]We certainly are![/FONT]
 

hey now, don't dis the young'ins.

You are sexy too, SD.  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif)

(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Happy/20.gif) .

Now SD, do I get a blessin?  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif)

Got to PL, off to the doctor.

(http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Love/1.gif)

Take care.

Good morning!!!
What are you having for Lu-   woops. Wrong thread     (http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/icon_smile_blush.gif)

What were we talking about??
 

What were we talking about??

 

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 Wanna be a dv mod, tenk?  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif)  

Well, a wise woman once told me that I shouldn't judge DV mods until I've been one.
Maybe I should talk to Mike about it!!
I hear they're looking for a few good obsessive megalomaniacs!!
 

Yes, and I heard that Mike wants someone to undergo sex change!  The f*ck!  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/1.gif)

  I say NO to the DV DRUGS!

Awwww. Don't say no before you've tasted the latest batch, sweet pants.
C'mon, just a little taste and I promise you'll be BEGGIN' FOR IT!

I GOTTA HAVE MY DV!!  
 (//forums/richedit/smileys/Shocked/3.gif)  

I only beg for more sex unless dv now offers that online or something.  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/12.gif)

Not yet unfortunately.
I think all the calls for registration would dry up overnight if they just offered private cybersex rooms.
Meh, but we don't need that, we've got PMs!!!
Cybermeet??
 

Oh please don't PM.  We all want to watch.

Yes, I am bored. :P

hey now!

What?   ;D

never heard of the phrase "hey now".  Its an old term for whats up/its getting hot in here I need a fan phrase.

And my reply meant 'what's wrong with a little voyerism'?  I think you and I are speaking different languages today SD.

 LOL!
I love you guys!!
   
 (http://www.motleycrow.com/ImageHost/Cat_f*cker.jpg)
   

If it's getting so hot in here, you better take off all your clothes and do the shimey!    

*shimy, shimy*  Okay now what?  

Chicklet wrote:
*shimy, shimy*  Okay now what?  
     Repeat if necessary???

play the bongos!  

slip 'n slide?

Ever since someone put a razor blade sticking up on one of those things I cringe when I think about it.
Like nails on a chalkboard or eating tin foil.
 

JESUS!  You're kidding right tenk?

go streaking.

Wreck Beach anyone?

It's probably an urban legend but I heard it as a kid and the image has stuck with me.
Now it's in you    :0
 

I hate sand in my ho-ha.  That SUCKS.

Sorry I'm not in my dreadful the sky is gray attitude today.  Had to leave the cave today, In a good mood now.  

Yeah SD is happy. I'll see ya at the beach.  I'll be the one rubbing her crotch. ;)

 Want me to help you with that, sis?
 
EDIT: The line above was a dirty rotten handle hijacker.
Teh Borken how can you allow this to happen????     (//forums/richedit/smileys/Angry/4.gif)

Yes, please!

LOL, Wreck beach?  I'll be the one waving those pom-poms of mine.  ;)

:O....dirty thoughts from tenk!  No way!  (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Teasing/5.gif)   He would never....

Chicklet wrote:
Yeah SD is happy. I'll see ya at the beach.  [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff40ff"]I'll be the one rubbing her crotch. ;)[/FONT]

 

 

 OHMYEYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *slump on the floor in disbelief*


 

This thread feels like a teen daughter who has grown up too fast...







... and now she's beyond control! [A onclick="addImg('icon/icon_smile_shy.gif')" href="jvascript:void(0)"](http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/icon_smile_shy.gif)[/A]

Chicklet wrote:
Yeah SD is happy. I'll see ya at the beach.  I'll be the one rubbing her crotch. ;)
 [FONT color=#c00000]Shame, where is thy blush?[/FONT]

Gopher wrote:
 [FONT color=#c00000]Shame, where is thy blush?[/FONT][/DIV]
 [FONT color=#0000ff]Probably in her purse, along with her lipstick.[/FONT]

LOL, Kitten