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There are only 10 types of people in the world: [/DIV]Those who understand binary, and those who don't

I think you may be confusing freedom with obsessive compulsive behaviour.

Well do keep us posted Adam, would you? It's always nice to see something successful from someone you know.

Are you published yet Adam? Would we have seen any of your screenplays?

If not, here's hoping we'll be cursing the commercial interruptions while trying to watch one, very soon.

[BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"]P.C. wrote:


That could be me.[img style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick=url(this.src); src="http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/a100.gif" border=0]....except the mid 20's part.  Not a big flyer.[/DIV][/BLOCKQUOTE] Me neither. I can barely carry two people at cruising altitude.
 

Wow. Dialup BBS's. 300 baud modems. How the hell did we ever manage?

Remember Fidonet back before the Internet? You could email someone on the other side of the world. It might take three days to get there, and go through 5 volunteer BBS owners, but it would get there.

Then came Archie, Jughead, and Veronica....

No child ever thinks his tantrum has gone on too long....

P.C. wrote:
Good thinking good Times.  I've made a few of my friends snicker on occasion too, when it comes to sniffing out an odor.  I maintain, that I can SMELL when it's going to snow.  Oh sure....they all laugh until the morning, when we wake up under a blanket of snow.

My Grandfather used to tell me the same thing. He was right most of the time too. One day he taught me how to smell snow coming. It wasn't that he could describe it, he just told me to come outside and smell the air.

"See how it's different today" he said, "how it smells kind of tingly in the back of your nose? That's the smell of snow coming".

People think it's because I'm a Witch that I always know when it's going to snow. How do you explain that it's not because I'm a Witch, it's because I'm a grandson?

My boy is three years old now. In a few years I will start teaching him. I'll teach him how to smell snow, how to whistle with grass, how to make a flute from a willow branch, how to listen for rain in the song of crickets. I'll put my hand on his shoulder as he whittles his first rabbit trap, and I'll feel the hand of my grandfather on my shoulder. I won't turn around, but if I did I know I'd see a line of fathers and sons stretching back until the beginning of time. I am who I am because of them, and I pray my son will see them someday too.


   

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[BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"]Adam_Fulford wrote:


The bipartisan GAO (General Accounting Office) couldn't "even remotely be considered unbiased"??  [A href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05956.pdf"]http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05956.pdf[/A]  [/DIV][/BLOCKQUOTE] In the post I was referring to, you didn't reference this document, you referenced some guys blog who obviously has an axe to grind. In addition, this document is in no way saying what your original post in this thread says, so it's not really a help to you.

[BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"]How about laws against the kind of hackable "interpeted code" used in Diebold voting machines, stated in the federal Help America Vote Act (HAVA) guidelines -- they couldn't "remotely be considered unbiased"?? [/DIV][/BLOCKQUOTE] That's assuming that the Diebold machines actually contravene those guidlines. So far you havn't given any independant sources that show this is the case. Again you've given us the claims of some very biased sources that may or may not be misrepresenting the actual facts.

[BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"]Nor could an independent report commissioned by the Secretary of State of California [FONT color=#0000ff][A href="http://www.votetrustusa.org/pdfs/California_Folder/DieboldReport.pdf"]http://www.votetrustusa.org/pdfs/California_Folder/DieboldReport.pdf[/A][/FONT][FONT color=#000000]  written with the assistance of Chris Karlof and Naveen Sastry of the University of California "even remotely be considered unbiased"??  [/FONT][/DIV][/BLOCKQUOTE]
Is that actually the transcript of said report? Hard to say. Anyone can type up a "report", put a fancy sounding title on it and pdf it. The report isn't signed, it bears no seal, and there's no independant corroboration that it is genuine. You've already accused one organisation of lying, who's to say this votetrustusa.org is honest? I'm not willing to take your word for it, sorry.

As I've said before, I'm suspicious of the voting machines, but I see no need to take the word of one very biased side over the word of the other very biased side. That is why I would like to see info from unbiased sources, which you have certqainly not yet given.

None of the sources in your post could even remotely be considered unbiased Adam.

Which is precisely what I was referring to. You have an opinion, and you choose sources that agree with you. I have yet to form an informed opinion, although I have suspicions, and so I need to see reports from some unbiased sources to make sure I'm forming my opinion fairly.

What you've given just doesn't count as unbiased. Occam's Razor tells us that the truth is probably somewhere between your position and The other side.

"Casey Luskin, a spokesman for the Discovery Institute, a research group based in Seattle that has promoted the ideas of intelligent design, called the vote "a loss for scientific education," "

As if Mr Luskin would have any idea at all of what constitutes "scientific education (sic)"

I don't think anybody here thinks you wrote it. One thing I did learn over there is that the kind of morons who handle jack also have no concept of writing style. It was painfully obvious to most people when it was me posting, and when it was a handle jacker.

Rathwer annoying when that happens. That's precisely why I left DV, and why I've never gone back, and why I just don't care what goes on over there any more.

Don't give up on them yet 49er.

There may be significant problems with the machines, or there may not be. The jury is still rather out. The problem is that this has become the conspiracy de jour for the those people for whom life is one big conspiracy.  

Yes I understand your side of the story Adam. What I was wondering about is the other side.

Not to suggest that you're being untruthful, but this isn't exactly an unbiased report. Your side is that the company is the evil empire, the companies side is that they've been misrepresented. As usual it's likely that the truth lies somewhere in between.

So I guess my question should have been, does anyone know of any reports on this story from unbiased sources?