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Who will become Pres in 08?

VOTE FOR McCAIN

Out of that group, McCain or Dean.

Hilary Clinton? hahahahaha, never in a million, billion TRILLION years. I'd vote for Al Sharpton before I'd vote for Hilary.

People will get tired of republicans by '08. Look at the canadian elections for an example.  It will be a democrat and it will be either hillary or gov. mark warner of virginia.[/DIV]But in '06 im protesting going to vote for the socialist canidate if one is running. But most likely the liberitarian canidate will only be the third option so he or she gets my vote.

I would say "if the dems are stupid enough to run Hillary I'm going to lose all faith in them", except that I lost all faith in them years ago.

The U.S. is a faux democracy, run by the Republicrat party. No one will vote for an alternative because they're afraid of "wasting" their vote. Meh!

You guys should ditch the prez and get yerselves a Prime Minister! (http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/poo.gif)

LOL. I think even your turd emote could do a better job as prez than the monkey we have right now...

speaking of which he was sworn in today.[/DIV]Bloody Hell. Hope he doesn't touch social issues. But more money for public transportation would be lovely.

I say none of the above.

How about Michael Bloomberg. Or even Trump. I'm sure he would love to say 'You're Fired!' to many people in Washington.  

hillary clinton

IMO the last thing we need is another run-of-the-mill Washington insider like Hillary.

When you're heading towards disaster, I don't think it pays to elect someone who's too gutless to change the status quo in any real sense. From my perspective, these are America's most pressing problems:

1. We desperately need campaign finance reform on a fundamental level. The only way to permanently disentangle legalized bribery from politics is to institute PUBLICALLY FUNDED CAMPAIGNS and punish those who tamper with our elections as we would violent criminals. IMO it is on a par with treason.

2. We need to set aside our naive ideology and acknowledge the facts about Iraq. We must disengage immediately. Return home and shift the resources that would be going towards that failed campaign (the latest estimates suggest it may cost a total of 2 TRILLION dollars once all the secondary costs are factored in) to domestic spending to improve our schools and... 3. WE NEED A DRAMATIC REFORM OF OUR MEDICAL/INSURANCE SYSTEM. Something like 43 million Americans (including 10 million kids) are completely uninsured. Many more are only partially insured, and would still be financially devastated by serious illness. Pre-existing condition clauses are the most disgusting thing about the whole mess. "Oh, you're sick. Well then you don't qualify for insurance". And don't get me started on the cost of pharmaceuticals and our restrictions on buying Canadian drugs. Bah! Ok, enough ranting. But I do have to ask, does Hillary have the political will to really tackle even ONE of these issues? In the past, her proposed solution to the medical crisis was a pathetic and meager compromise with medical special interests. She has never impressed me as someone who's willing to challenge the status quo. If the demos really do choose her, I will definitely make a noise.    

I say hillary only because she's a clinton and I want to see rednecks throw a hissy fit.[/DIV]But as I have said before my choice is mark warner but he'll probly end up hillary's VP.

Not that it matters.[/DIV]I expect that the dems will f*ck up again, run a half-assed, tentative campaign and that the repubs will extend their rule. I think it would take something really extraordinary to drill through the ignorance and naivete of the average voter, and Hillary isn't it. I sort of liked Howard Dean, honestly. At least he made an effort to identify some of the REAL problems and speak about solutions. But, although there were real questions folks could have brought up about his positions, the American sheeple instead allowed the media to destroy Dean based on a f*cking yodel so that the demo's chosen one could take an impotent shot at power. Meh.

No I think america will get tired of republican rule.  They are already tired of republican rule in congress and they are tired of bush.  It will be like what happend in Canada with the Liberals. Do people what 12 years of republicans in the white house? I don't think so.

I hope you're right.[/DIV]If only they would get tired of both parties, things might actually start to change.[FONT color=#c00000]What this country needs is a napalm enema![/FONT]

The country is messed up and it needs to be fixed.

If America was a car, I'd donate it to charity and get a new one.

Ok, actually I'd try to donate it and they would tell me to take it away cuz it's stinkin' up the place. Then I would notice the homeless guy sleeping in the back in a puddle of his own filth, sob silently to myself and just leave America on the side of the road.

thats why i'm leaving. Plus I don't think like an american I have european views. Or as Pat Robertson says "hedonistic views".

"hedonistic views" I hear ya, bro...[/DIV]    (http://discoverseattle.net/forums/richedit/smileys/Thinking/1.gif)

I'm serious on that. Watched Pat Robertson last night just to see what the kook was trying to spread and he was talking about how non religious europe has become. He called it "Hedonistic" I couldn't stop laughing for an hour.

I'm serious on that. Watched Pat Robertson last night just to see what the kook was trying to spread and he was talking about how non religious europe has become. He called it "Hedonistic" I couldn't stop laughing for an hour

pat robertson is the kookiest nutball of all the religious whackos. if you or i said the things he's said (on national television no less), we'd be under arrest. it's sickening how the media runs to him for god-related comments, as if he has inside info direct from god or something.  

his god is a cruel, vindictive, hateful god- basically a god who's "out to get you".

i'd wake up happy if pat robertson died tonight.

I am still religious but I have lost faith in christianity. Bush and his evangelicals have ruined it for the believers.

If the Dems run Hillary it will be freakin' disaster. Gore v Bush part 2. Hillary's OK I guess (and that's not what we need right now), but McCain would mop up the floor with her. Decorated veteran, a bit of a maverick, not a nut job republican, and he's got access to the well-tuned Republican Noise Machine.[/DIV]The Dems need someone visionary and dynamic to counter all that and I can't really think of anyone with any name recognition for the job.We're doomed.

tenkani wrote:
 I hope you're right.

If only they would get tired of both parties, things might actually start to change.

[FONT color=#c00000]What this country needs is a napalm enema![/FONT][/DIV]
 Hillary's our candidate: to  Angels we have heard on hi

  Hillary's our candidate, moderate enough to win

the best one to nominate, she'll lift us above the din

Hill-iiiiil-iiiiil iiiil-ary, Hillary for chief exec

"                          ", so the country won't go to heck

first president to wear a bra, women think she's really swell

forgave bill for monica, so men can like her as well

Hill-etc.