Get Pulled over in Kansas...get fingerprinted on the spot.

Started by TehBorken, Mar 22 06 07:37

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TehBorken

 Welcome to Fascism 101, your instructor will be the State Of Kansas. [hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;"][font style="font-weight: bold;" size="4"]Pulled over in Kansas? Get ready to show your license, registration — and fingerprints[/font]By BENITA Y. WILLIAMS
The Kansas City Star

If you are stopped by police in Kansas, don't be surprised if the officer pulls out a little black box and takes your fingerprints.[/p] The gadget allows officers to identify people by fingerprints without hauling them to the police station. (Gee, they make it sound so handy, like it's a benefit to us as citizens![/b])
[/p] Over the next year the Kansas Bureau of Investigation will test 60 of the devices with law enforcement agencies around the state. State officials said similar tests are being planned for New York, Milwaukee and Hawaii.[/p] "This is definitely new," said Gary Page, Overland Park Police Department crime lab. "It's been talked about, but as far as I know they are not in use anywhere in the metro."[/p] The tests in Kansas are part of a bigger $3.6 million upgrade to the KBI's statewide fingerprint database, unveiled Tuesday by the KBI and Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline.[/p] ■ The system: [/p] Called the Automatic Fingerprint Identification System, it is a statewide database of more than 10 million fingerprints taken from people arrested in Kansas. The Missouri Highway Patrol maintains a similar database. Both systems link to the FBI fingerprint database.[/p] ■ How it works:[/p] In Kansas, 54 law enforcement agencies have traded the ink-and-paper fingerprinting method for biometric imaging, which electronically scans a digital image of the print. Sixty Missouri agencies use biometric scanning. Police also can scan the fingers of corpses and people they arrest to match them against prints in the system. Results are obtained in seconds instead of hours. The inked cards still used by some smaller departments are also scanned into the statewide systems.[/p] ■ Why upgrade?[/p] Kansas could no longer locate replacement parts or anyone to service the old system, which was launched in 1990 and upgraded in 1998. The first phase was funded with a $752,000 homeland security grant. The KBI is applying for similar grants to pay the balance. All upgrades should be completed by January 2007.[/p] ■ The portable devices: [/p] Police place a person's two index fingers on a screen. Wireless technology sends the image to the database for comparison. Prints scanned in the field will not be stored.[/p] ■ What else is new:[/p] The system will analyze palm prints, which were stored but could not be read before. The system also will store mug shots and pictures of scars, tattoos and other identifying marks.[/p]  
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

soapbox

 [FONT color=#c00000]■ The portable devices: [/FONT]

 [FONT color=#c00000]Police place a person's two index fingers on a screen. Wireless technology sends the image to the database for comparison. Prints scanned in the field will not be stored.[/FONT]

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 it is just me or is there the real possibility for abuse.fine,if it is a faster way to identify a citizen but what about unauthorized retaing of the image or print?

 what happens to that image in addition to it simply being sent "downtown" for verification?


Sportsdude

Don't worry about cops on I-70 they are too easy to spot and they usually hang around construction zones. They are a lot like Mississippi cops, they don't go on the highway unless they have to respond to something. Drive between midnight and dawn and there is nobody on the road period and your the only light for miles, kinda creepy.
"We can't stop here. This is bat country."

TehBorken

 soapbox wrote:
it is just me or is there the real possibility for abuse.

Oh, Heaven forbid. The U.S. government misuse our personal information? What a dreadful idea; I'm sure it would never happen.
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

TehBorken

 Sportsdude wrote:
Don't worry about cops on I-70 they are too easy to spot and they usually hang around construction zones.

So how exactly does "seeing them first" prevent them from pulling you over whenever they feel like it? Without an invisibility cloak I don't think it matters who sees who first. All that matters is that they see you. This is a great way for them to collect massive number of fingerprints from the general population.

If they told people to come down to the station and be fingerprinted everyone would object, but this way they do it and you have little or no recourse (except going to jail when you don't allow them to fingerprint you).

 
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

TehBorken

"Prints scanned in the field will not be stored."

Lol, yeah, they would never do that.
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

Sportsdude

Milwaukee is not a state.

  You can see them first due to there position on the road ( they sit in the middle) they use white cars which makes them sit out like a sore thumb because A) its Kansas no trees, nothing and when you go through the rolling hills part of Kansas you can spot a cop car from atleast 5 miles away on top of the hill.
"We can't stop here. This is bat country."

TehBorken

 Sportsdude wrote:
 [div style="font-style: italic;"]You can see them first due to there position on the road ( they sit in the middle) they use white cars which makes them sit out like a sore thumb because A) its Kansas no trees, nothing and when you go through the rolling hills part of Kansas you can spot a cop car from atleast 5 miles away on top of the hill.[/div]
 Oh, I get it- you're under the impression that if you're "not doing anything wrong" then they won't pull you over, right? Boy, do I have some news for you....
The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.

Sportsdude

huh?

No I mean they are easy to pick out and they go only at the guys doing 90+ because I did 80 all the way and flew by a couple of them and they didn't do anything.
"We can't stop here. This is bat country."

weird al

So I wonder what happens when the prints they take in the field don't match the ones on file - which can easily happen. I guess they have to haul you in.