American Flag

[Gopher]

Obedience corrupts ingenuity, initiative and self-expression.

  It's yet another case of the symbol being invested with a greater power than the object it represents.  

[Sportsdude]

 Oh gosh it the rah rah american crap went up 1 billion percent after 9/11.  If you made any sort of statement in class that was against what the administration was for you yelled at for being an idiot.  9/11 turned a bunch of people my age into neo cons on 9/12 and they haven't come back to reality yet.  Its disgusting the things I've heard.  I got yelled at for an entire class period (1hr and 30 minutes block schedule) for apparently being an idiot because I was against the Iraq War.  I said "you'll get to Baghdad but you'll never leave, I brought up the sunni's and the shia and the kurds" and the teacher and the students told me to go to hell.  I left that school after that school year.  Couldn't take the abuse.  

[tenkani]

SD, seriously dude come to the left coast and things will be different.
Not better necessarily, but different.
Over here it's the reactionaries who get dirty looks.
 

[Gopher]

Give them some from me.

[Sportsdude]

 Its funny how different my views are from the general census around here.  Funny thing about political views especially for me is that I can look back and tell when my views started to change.  For the past 8 or so years anything I've ever written has been political.  When I'm bored sometimes or looking for inspiration I look through all the old documents and essays I've written over the years and have seen how I've evolved.  I always had this view I had of the world in me but I always kept it under wraps scared of what it could do because I wasn't in the greatest environments to bring it out.

When I look back I laugh because wow I was a rebel rouser.  I spared nothing and no one.  I think that what got me into trouble.  You know there's so much a religious school can take when you are writing 5 page essays in religion class about how corrupt, wrong and evil that certain religious group is.  When I got those papers back that said 'we need to talk' I knew I did something bad. lol

Treated High School too much like college then realized I'm in a dictatorship.
   

[tenkani]

You are the real deal, SD.
So many folks pick up all their political/religious beliefs from their family. It's like they inherit their beliefs rather than actually bothering to think about them.
 

[Sportsdude]

Thats what I'm afraid of.  I know for a fact that my grandparents from Hungary were socialists.  Its too obvious.  They're giant labor people, huge labor people.  My grandpa grew up on a dirt floor and hatched roof for crying out loud. lol  Then my dad would be a 'soft left' person. (social  democrat).  Then my other side of the family is neo-conservative who won't hear any other view except their own.  Its a tug of war battle.  Then anger gets into it and I really get messed up.  I feel like I was pushed/force/thrown in this political direction like I had no choice.  

[N, S, & F]

I guess that is the difference between the USA and Canada.

  In Canada, you can take a dump on the picture of the Prime Minister and still be considered patriotic.

[Sportsdude]

lol thats awesome. Then again you've got a bunch of traitors in the Federal Parliament.  That wouldn't happen here, there would have already have been a civil war if that was the case.  

[N, S, & F]

What I mean is, you could do what I mentioned to any political party, whoever is in and it wouldn't matter.

  I can be a proud Canadian without ramming a Maple Leaf flag in my spine and crawl around on all fours so people can see my flag waving ever so bright.

[tenkani]

rofl rofl  

[Grouptopic.com]

 How can you say we are obsesed with our flag when the Canadians put a maple leef on everything, They have a maple leef on there mcdonalds sign!!  

[Lise]

Maple leef? I always thought the Golden Arch had a beaver on it. Goes to show how much I really pay attention to McDisaster.

 

[james h.]

Grouptopic.com wrote:
How can you say we are obsesed with our flag when the Canadians put a maple leef on everything, They have a maple leef on there mcdonalds sign!!  
  There is a big difference. You should be allowed to love your flag. And yes, the Maple Leaf is well represented, and people are proud to wave it. But obsessed?

When you see a flag on a McDonalds and other corporations, it resembles the fact that those corporations, although American based, have their own Canadian headquarters.

I don't think that falls into the same catergory as driving down "Anytown, USA", and if you don't have an American Flag in front of your house, you are a backstabbing commie that deserves to be shipped to Cuba and lit on fire!

The post 9/11 reasons for all the flag waving..or should I say worshipping, are scary.

  PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THIS! *grabs crotch*  

[P.C.]

I've always had some kind of admiration of the Americans and their patriotism.  Be it misguided or not.