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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #330 on: Jan 19 07 05:42 »
[A href="http://www.westender.com/"]http://www.westender.com/[/A]

  It's a few stories down the page.....couldn't do a direct link.  
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #331 on: Jan 19 07 07:21 »
Maybe this will  help. Interesting link there, PC. Thanks.

    [FONT size=1]Jan 18 2007[/FONT]  [FONT face=Verdana size=2]  A popular Vancouver message board riddled with racist, misogynistic and homophobic comments will continue to exist, say the owners of the tourism-oriented website that hosts it, until they can find the time to clean it up.  DiscoverVancouver.com bills itself as “an online guide” to Vancouver that points tourists toward accommodations, entertainment, restaurants and nightclubs, and it invites users to visit the message board if they have any questions about the city. However, the message board has primarily been used by locals, and contains a number of offensive postings against ethnic minorities, women and homosexuals.  For example, a thread titled ‘First Nations chicks?’ includes an entry by the poster ‘nathanchange,’ who, in September 2006, offered the following advice for soliciting native women: “Go down to East Hastings with a gallon bucket of paint thinner and/or 92 octane Gasoline. Offer free samples. Done deal.”  The same thread featured a number of additional racist remarks — none of which have been deleted — which depict native women as poverty-striken drug addicts.  DiscoverVancouver.com is owned by MyZone Media, which also owns  ClubZone.com, TechVibes.com and CasinoZone.com. Mike Schwarz, president of ClubZone.com, says he realizes the message board does not paint a good impression of Vancouver for tourists, but the company has had to put off cleaning up the site due to the growth of ClubZone.com. There are 13 moderators that scan through DiscoverVancouver.com and delete controversial postings, but because there can be as many as 6,000 new postings in a single day, many become buried in the site.   “We definitely know there’s a lot of inflammatory information on there, and we’re by no means at all condoning racism or things like that,” says Schwarz, “but, at the same time, from a media perspective, controversy is always good, and so when you have people going on there slamming a local retailer who hasn’t been holding up their refund policy… it sort of exposes truth.”  Schwarz says MyZone Media receives approximately one letter a week from a lawyer threatening to sue because of a comment made on the message board. However, he insists that if there is ever a legal discrepancy, the company immediately pulls the posting. Schwarz adds that DiscoverVancouver.com works with the Vancouver Police Department in finding pedophiles who have posted child pornography on the site, and also in preventing suicides; he claims that the strategy has led to a number of arrests and the prevention of at least one suicide.  Schwarz also notes that the message board will eventually follow the ClubZone.com format, which will require users to log in before posting. However, that won’t be lauched for another six months.

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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #332 on: Jan 19 07 07:23 »
Schwarz also notes that the message board will eventually follow the ClubZone.com format, which will require users to log in before posting. However, that won’t be lauched for another six months.

  What a bunch of BS. He's been promising this for years.
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #333 on: Jan 19 07 07:38 »
Can anyone provide some insight on the owner? What kind of person is he that he lets this shit go on? Reminds me of the guy who owns the Girls Gone Wild videos - sued all the time and yet, still rakes in the dough. He must have some major lawyers on his side.
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #334 on: Jan 19 07 08:17 »
I have the impression that he doesn't care about the content as long as it sells.  As long as he can get away with it he will never put in registry.  It certainly has nothing to do with helping tourists who want information, unless it provides them with negative information about Vancouver.
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #335 on: Jan 19 07 09:05 »
Can anyone answer this though: why do people advertise on that site, considering the content? Does Home Depot want to be associated with racism?
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #336 on: Jan 19 07 09:15 »
Yep, that's exactly what sums him up. I guess from the way DV has gone down the hill is that he only wants to see $$$ at the end of the way. Who cares as long as there's traffic going thru, right?

  As for the number of active mods he has on board. Laughable. I can count the number of moderators off one hand. He DOES NOT care about the opinions of the moderators. Remember my stance against this pedophile? I asked that he do something about it and go nothing in response. Emails after emails were sent asking for Mike to do something about it. Only when I threatened to take it up to the authorities, citing that the owners basically don't give a rat's ass about it that he responded. Basically, he told me to bugger off and who am I to threaten him? I'm just a lowly moderator. He doesn't have to answer to me.

  So is it ever a wonder to see why moderator after moderator left DV? It's gotten to the point where there's no point really. Why complain, why delete, why do anything when the owners basically don't give a damn? Banning is not enough in some cases because these idiots keep changing their IP address and keep coming back, bringing the same s....t after s....t. If you were the owner, wouldn't do you more than just banning?

  However, I do think there's some hope left with DV. I feel that it can come out of this muck and go back to the days where people go there for adult and mature talk.

  OK. Said my peace. Can't believe I'm dredging this up again. Sorry, folks.  
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #337 on: Jan 19 07 09:16 »
Perhaps with more bad publicity, people will want to pull out from advertising on DV. Only time will tell.
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #338 on: Jan 20 07 06:40 »
greycat wrote:
Can anyone provide some insight on the owner? What kind of person is he that he lets this shit go on? Reminds me of the guy who owns the Girls Gone Wild videos - sued all the time and yet, still rakes in the dough. He must have some major lawyers on his side.
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #339 on: Jan 20 07 08:31 »
  greycat wrote:
Can anyone answer this though: why do people advertise on that site, considering the content? Does Home Depot want to be associated with racism?

Home Depot and the other advertisers have no idea what kind of content their ads are appearing alongside of on that board. If they did they'd insist that they're ads be removed. The banner companies are the ones that supply the actual ads to the site, and that's kind of a mixed bag there.

The Discovervancouver banner companies are primarily Google and Falk AG. There has been a LOT of talk about Falk being a spyware purveyor or turning a blind eye towards the people that use them to load spyware onto your PC through their ads. [a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Falkag&btnG=Google+Search"]Type "falkag" into Google[/a] and their ad blurb says it all: "Falk eSolutions is one of the world's premier providers of fully-integrated, ASP-based ad serving and email marketing solutions"....in other words their marketers and spammers and possibly worse.

[a href="http://www.benedelman.org/news/062206-1.html"]This article[/a] details some of their abuses.It would appear that Falk is happily playing the game, defrauding clients and end users alike. They also played a part in this little escapade: [a  href="http://www.dynamoo.com/diary/falkag-net.htm"]Falk AG  / falkag.net Serving Viruses and Trojans[/a] - "Thousands  of visitors hit by an IE exploit." Falk AG claimed that they were hacked, however, this is not the first time this has happened.

Needless to say, my sites don't use Falk for banners.

Google on the other hand would probably discontinue DV as a client if the nature of their message boards was made aware to them. It's hard to say, maybe, maybe not., but there's a good chance they'd suspend the site from serving Google ads.
 
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #340 on: Jan 20 07 10:06 »
Whoa. Interesting. I never knew that. Thanks for keeping us informed, TB. Yet another sneaky tool associated with DV. *sigh*
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #342 on: Jan 20 07 06:59 »
 
www.discovervancouverforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=134776

They started a History of DV thread. HAHHAHHHHAHA
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #343 on: Jan 20 07 10:03 »
I am curently posting less and less on DV these days cause it is nothing more than a troll festivi;lle of Handlejackers... and Incompetent Mods... who are doing nothing about it half the time i think it is a Mod behind the handle jackings...

like hell Aboozer ie Moderator X was really bad for hijacking peoples names and playing cat and mouse with them...

it just is not worth it to go their anymore... i dont mind the trolls but handle jackers are a royal pain ...  
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Re: How many of you here have fled from DV?
« Reply #344 on: Jan 20 07 10:08 »
How dare you orik?!?! You betrayed us all
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