Must watch video on 911

[libdave]

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9%20-11+Loose+Change

other's comments:

    "This is the best damn 9-11 documentary out there." -Dave von Kleist, Producer of "911:In Plane Site" Loose Change is an extremely hard hitting, heavily referenced documentary. It has the best footage that I have seen to date, of all the bombs and explosions going off at the World Trade Center. He covers each individual aspect of9/11 in keen detail, and after watching 'Loose Change' it is almost impossible to walk away and not believe that 9/11 was engineered, not by Osama, but by our own Government.  

[TUX INVALID PASSWORD]

I WOULD HAVE  APPRECIATED YOU HOLDING OFF ON THIS POST SINCE I HAVE BEEN PROMISING THE ADMIN THAT I WOULD BRING MY COPY OF LOOSE CHANGE OVER TO WATCH AT HIS PLACE.

[Orca]

This is a crash test for airplane, actually it is more of a nuclear powerplant wall crash test...

For those who believe there is conspiracy theory on Pentagon 9-11,
and asked "How come there was very little debris from the plane?"
this video is the answer.

Notice in slow motion that the plane is reduced to ashes, leaving only parts of its wings that doesn't hit any concrete wall.

Enjoy:
[A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96phB4fIk7E" rel=nofollow][FONT color=#0000ff]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96phB4fIk7E[/FONT][/A]

[P.C.]

I watched that Loose Change months ago, and I too found it was pretty thought provoking.  I'm not normally sucked into conspiracy theories, but this film has some convincing answers, to questions that I've had from the beginning and has made me think about new questions.  Whether it makes it all true or not....who knows.  

[Lise]

Not able to watch this link. Anyone got a better link on Loose Change?

[P.C.]

[A href="http://www.loosechange911.com/"]http://www.loosechange911.com/[/A]

  This may be the same link, I'm not sure.  

[Lise]

Wow. Over an hour worth of footage. I'll have to watch it when I have the time. Thanks, PC.

[TehBorken]

    Orca wrote:
Notice in slow motion that the plane is reduced to ashes, leaving only parts of its wings that doesn't hit any concrete wall.

You're kidding, right? A Boeing 757 is much larger than an F-4 and has about 10 times as much mass. What happened to the two 6000-lb engines made of steel and titanium? What happened to the wings, the landing gear, the passengers, etc etc? Give me a break- there's never been an actual plane crash where an entire jumbo jet disintegrated into nothingness. That's just ridiculous.

F-4 Phantom weight: 31,853 pounds
Boeing 757 weight: 220,000 pounds (99,800 kilograms) up to a maximum of 255,000

Quite a difference. And where did the wings go?
   

[Sportsdude]

I'm sorry I dispise my government as much as the next guy but for the life of me cannot say that what happend on 9/11 was a set up. Its just too sinister to think that.

  Now tell me that Bush knew this was coming? Yes he did read intellegence reports. Hell I knew this was coming and all I did was watch the news everyday.

  Katrina yes Bush is an idiot there doesn't give a shit because it wasn't in an election year so he didn't have to worry about anything.

  Gas Prices this year. Of course he's got something to do with it. There's no way in hell gas prices should be this low this quickly right after highs, demand hasn't gone down, something is pushing it down, an outside force. This happend in the 80's when people started throwing around non gasoline cars ideas what happend? prices dropped. Same thing is happening now.

  We're being played again by corporations. got to love capitalism. Money is our God, not some long haired hippie, a guy from the desert, a guy with a long beard and staff, a bald little guy, or I guy name Darth.

Nope instead its this little paper rectangle.

[P.C.]

Quite a difference. And where [SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"]did[/SPAN] the wings go?

  Well, that's one of the things that toyed with logic for me.  The wings disintigrated into nothingness....the bodies disintegrated into nothingness....and yet there were pieces of totally intact luggage sitting on the lawn.

  The other tid-bit I couldn't get passed, was finding the passport, unsinged, uncrumpled.....of the pilot of the plane that hit the WTC, just laying in the street.  We're led to believe the heat was enough to melt steel, but a paper passport can remain intact ??

  And why can't we see the video footage from the hotel that was nearby, who apparently had it all on tape, live.

[TehBorken]

  Sportsdude wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]Its just too sinister to think that.[/div]
Oh, well, I guess in that case it's not true....because it's too sinister to think that. LOL!  Mark my words, this was a setup. The evidence is impossible to ignore. And just because you think it's "too sinister" to think about doesn't mean it's not true.

[a href="http://www.jewishgen.org/Forgottencamps/Camps/BuchenwaldEng.html"]Buchenwald[/a] and [a href="http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/englisch/content/"]Dachau[/a] were too sinister to be true. The rumors of [a href="http://www.progressiveu.org/222440-a-lament-for-habeas-corpus"]doing away with Habeas Corpus[/a] were too sinister to be true. The idea that you can now be charged with [a href="http://www.alternet.org/rights/43691/"]secret crimes under secret laws[/a] was too sinister to be true. Legally torturing people was too sinister to be true. All that is old news now.

What will it take to wake you up?
 

[Sportsdude]

I'm not saying those are true which they are. I'm talking about the whole day in general. Yeah Bush could've done a lot more. I'm not denying that I'm just saying that bombing our own pentagon is dumb.

  Anyway we'll see once Pelosi takes over the house can't wait for all the investigations into these war criminals.

[TehBorken]

  P.C. wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]And why can't we see the video footage from the hotel that was nearby, who apparently had it all on tape, live.[/div]
Yep.

Consider this: the Pentagon is one of the most secure, protected buildings on the entire planet. It has surveillance cameras covering every square inch of the building, the grounds, all the approaches, etc etc...you can even see them in the photos. Yet not a single bit of any of these dozens of cameras have had one minute of film released. The only film released was a few seconds of tape from a gas station camera, and it doesn't show shit! It definitely doesn't show an airplane hitting the building.

And yeah, the whole passport being found on the ground unharmed is impossible to buy. If you hit a building in a jumbo jet at 500mph, a paper passport is not going to make it through and be found untouched without a scorchmark on it. It's just not the slightest bit believable.
 

[Sportsdude]

things on the space shuttle survived after it blew up finding passport things and such isn't that suprising.

[TehBorken]

  Sportsdude wrote:
[div style="font-style: italic;"]I'm not denying that I'm just saying that bombing our own pentagon is dumb.[/div]
No, it's wasn't dumb- it was brilliant. It worked like a charm. Now there's no Bill Of Rights, no free speech, they can tap your phones now without a warrant, open your mail, and hold you indefinitely wthout charging you or letting you have an attorney.